Taliban deny role in Peshawar market blasts

[graveyardofempires]

India is very active in Afghanistan so they can easily infiltrate through that side and they are doing. You can't say India is innocent. India is the enemy of Pakistan and they will never miss a chance to destabilize Pakistan. Even Pakistan will not miss a chance if it gets one in India.
As far as swat story is concerned it was started by ISI and wrapped up by ISI. ISI first raised them funded them and then gave a bad name to them by beheading people, by humiliating people, by kidnapping people for money and used media against them and turned people's minds against them in different ways.

you are brainwashed against Afghanistan by napaki state.
India is not very active in Afghanistan that is paki and other invaders propaganda.This way they can have a reason to make you act like mad dogs against your Afghan brothers.
if you know Torkham you will know it is virtually impossible that indians pass through ,they will be spotted.You are talking as if Pakistan is so important,pakistan and india are almost identitical in culture and language.
this is all a conspiracy against YOU living in pukhtunkhwa.Pakistan is like israel which is created by british sustained by america,Pukhtunkhwa is like west bak and Gaza.
Swat was started by ISI?LOL
bro i really would liek you to read some history,Pashtuns have been fighting for their lands before any british surrogate Pakistan existed let alone a british made ISI.

You shoudl really look into history without any paki interference or sources.

[єѕαρχαι]

Taliban might deny it , but they are the major enemies of Pashtuns , they have killed enough innocents.

Besides what good they did except for blowing up the Mobile towers , schools and mosques.

[graveyardofempires]

^
yes offcourse we believe you since you are spoon fed by napakistan.

[emkhan]

you are brainwashed against Afghanistan by napaki state.
India is not very active in Afghanistan that is paki and other invaders propaganda.This way they can have a reason to make you act like mad dogs against your Afghan brothers.
if you know Torkham you will know it is virtually impossible that indians pass through ,they will be spotted.You are talking as if Pakistan is so important,pakistan and india are almost identitical in culture and language.
this is all a conspiracy against YOU living in pukhtunkhwa.Pakistan is like israel which is created by british sustained by america,Pukhtunkhwa is like west bak and Gaza.
Swat was started by ISI?LOL
bro i really would liek you to read some history,Pashtuns have been fighting for their lands before any british surrogate Pakistan existed let alone a british made ISI.

You shoudl really look into history without any paki interference or sources.

Have I ever spoken against Afghanistan ? then why you say i am brainwashed against Afghanistan ?
You are talking about Torkham LOL.... Torkham is the entrance to Afghanistan or Pakistan, do you think Indian agents would be so stupid to enter trough torkham through proper checking ? Are you OK ????
Pakistan Afghanistan border lies for about 12 km. According to you Indian agents would skip the 1200 km and choose this one point LOL.

[emkhan]

Taliban might deny it , but they are the major enemies of Pashtuns , they have killed enough innocents.

Besides what good they did except for blowing up the Mobile towers , schools and mosques.

what about ISI, army and anp ???

[graveyardofempires]

Have I ever spoken against Afghanistan ? then why you say i am brainwashed against Afghanistan ?
You are talking about Torkham LOL.... Torkham is the entrance to Afghanistan or Pakistan, do you think Indian agents would be so stupid to enter trough torkham through proper checking ? Are you OK ????
Pakistan Afghanistan border lies for about 12 km. According to you Indian agents would skip the 1200 km and choose this one point LOL.

torkham will be the only entrance they may take.
do you honestly think they can get into pukhtunkhwa through durrand line beyond torkham?

you spoke about Afghanistan by saying they can get into pukhtunkhwa through Afghanistan.
it is more likely they get in through punjab since they are the same people with same culture but saying they will cross through the wild unguarded qabail durrand line than you are more brainwashed than i thought.
this is not some mission kashmir movie,its time you understand that it is napaki government which is doing it to pashtuns and saying Indians this and that is only to justify their crimes and brainwash little pashtuns into being against their own for the benefit of napakistan.
the 1200km "border" line is filled with gun carrying Pashtuns who would spot an intruder from miles let alone a whoel bunch of them and caliming that Pashtuns would work for indian raw agents is ridicolous

[Catya Sher]

I am glad to see Unknown has become much more aware of local politics, and has learned a lot since he first arrived here.
It shows in his posts.
Hopefully a future successful statesman working for Allah [swt], not the devil
like nearly all of them do.

I thought Raymond Davis, too, when I saw the headline.

I wonder how many Pakistanis even made that connection, though?
I am sure the US-controlled Islamabad "administration" has done their
absolute best to keep the Pakistani public "dumbed down" in every way
so that they will forget that embarrassing little incident and not link it to
future events, like these.

Sk's answer should be remembered by all each time this situation arises.
It's clearly that way, but few can even see so clearly as that explanation
as they are fogged in by so many forces.
People should pray hard at this time that the blinders keeping themselves
or the general public
in servitude
following official party lines or ideas picked up in warped educational institutions
or mass conditioning apparent among co-workers
or negative thought among so-called "friends"
will be removed so that Truth will prevail.


I do agree with emkhan above that India is a big factor. I think it's not as obvious from afar
as it is when one lives over there in the region

Why I always have insisted, does India need all those Consulates near the Afghan border?
None of us at THIS level know everything the Indians and RAW are doing.
But for sure, it's all SINISTER, not
helping any Pashtuns and Afghanistan as a whole.

If critics want to say "Oh Delhi is so innocent and loving toward us people of the region,
it just wants to help our economy recover" or bla bla -
remember back to the very cruel and sneaky Indian takeover of the Kingdom of Sikkim.
I have never forgotten that.

Look: the devil has woven a fog around so many people;s minds today
that few see events clearly.

My recommendation is to pray as often as possible to be kept away from all the myriad negative influences which obscure the truth -
it could save one's life --
as well as prevent the brain clouding which leads to Alzheimers, which will increase in prevalence due to the widespread willingness
to follow other people's thinking.

I am glad the best PF members are able to think independently.
Good work.

[unknownprince]

Im not saying India is some innocent country, especially, when you consider the Kashmir issue, but I doubt they specifically engage in these type of terror tactics. This was done by the same people who are behind Raymond Davis. This is irrefutable at this stage. Is Pakistan complicit in this? Obviously, the "leaders" have sold their nation to the US, but in time as the world accepts the new super power China, these sell outs will leave, and a new cadre of people are emerging. The game is over.


In regards to Indian presence in Afghanistan, it is exaggerated beyond reason by Pakistan. Why isnt Pakistan also making issue with the US presence in Afghanistan? It is the US presence which is the source of the conflict, and the source of instability in the region, and in fact the rest of the world. This has backfired on the US, bringing them to ever growing insignificance in the world- and this is irreversible at this stage, especially, as the world moves on without them.

[Catya Sher]

Unknown, it's the NEXUS of all three powers working in concert to stir up evil in the region.

At this point, without the benefit of some years of peace in which to research carefully to separate out the roles of each respective force in destabilizing Pakistan and other countries, probably few can speak authoritatively.
There is too much turmoil still yet to distinguish.

But for sure there is the ' AXIS of evil ' of 3 forces: A-I-I
as in "Ay ya YAI"
America Israel India

These three trade off among each other for various duties
and responsibilities in this cynical object to ruin Pakistan completely,
and from it trample Iran, turning Afghanistan into a weak shadow state,
pliable for anyone's use.

Further, you underestimate the machinations of CFR types and these heavy power elites based in North America, UK, Europe, etc.

These people aren't going to relinquish their stranglehold on control of most of the world so easily
They are NOT gentlemen who cede their place to 'the next upcoming power' with a sheepish bow -
they will FIGHT with all their might to perpetuate the preeminent position of America and Israel, because they OWN both...
and could care LESS what ANYONE or ANY other world power thinks of them...
they are ruthless, not polite.
You will never see them say "Oh, China, please precede us into the dinner reception, for you are more powerful than we".

You make it sound a little like these are the dynamics, rather than a colossal power struggle taking place between perhaps the Western power elites and
emerging China with Russia in tow, too.

[graveyardofempires]

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i disagree

this story is not about iran or pakistan.

the whole story revolves around Afghanistan.

Pakistan needs India story to kill and invade pashtuns just like American have al qaeda or whatever story.
In reality Pakistan and India are friends but they want to lock pashtuns in between the same goes for America and iran,they are helping eachother by default.

anyway

[faye]

from what i have been reading india is very chummy with israel and mossad. apparently they all hate pakistan. it has been suggested by mr kagan, of the fpi think tank and one of the designers of the surges in iraq and afghanistan, for america to get india more involved with afghanistan to anger pakistan and to get them to toe the u.s. line.
doesn't sound too friendly to me.

[emkhan]

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i disagree

this story is not about iran or pakistan.

the whole story revolves around Afghanistan.

Pakistan needs India story to kill and invade pashtuns just like American have al qaeda or whatever story.
In reality Pakistan and India are friends but they want to lock pashtuns in between the same goes for America and iran,they are helping eachother by default.

anyway

"Pakistan and India are friends" LOL. JOKE OF 2011
WAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAH
WAHHAHAHA

[Catya Sher]

They are NOT friends ever - not since Partition and maybe the leadup to that.

If they were, why is that Wagah border crossing so very restricted?
I crossed the frontier there one time and what a headache.
They make it as tedious as possible to discourage land travel between the two countries.

Then let's say you are in Delhi and want to
return to Islamabad but haven't the right re-entry visa.
Dream on....
you will sit there cooling your heels for 3 weeks in warm Northern India
while you wait for all the bureaucracy
to be sorted out [supposedly].

Actually the Indian officials seem to delight in stirring up trouble for
a Westerner going to their rival country.

Indians
of all types disparage Pakistan in every way they
can manage.

So this for people with American passport: what about the rest?

Now things MAY have changed since my day.
But I wouldn't count on MUCH change ....

GYE, you haven't traveled in either country, right?
Try it and you'll get a better idea !

[graveyardofempires]

"Pakistan and India are friends" LOL. JOKE OF 2011
WAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAH
WAHHAHAHA

the funny part is that you are sleeping and are injected with poison against your own pashtun brothers while on the otherside these people with same culture are uniting more than ever.
what do you think the partition was?
it was one hindu country and other "muslim" country both ruled by indics.
why do you think partition happend?
it happend to weaken the muslims and protect india with pakistan being as the new buffer state.

here are some videos about paki and indi friendship which you refuse to see.
kabadi keley sarhado
YouTube - ‪India Pakistan Friendship Video‬‏
YouTube - ‪Dedicated to India Pakistan Friendship‬‏
YouTube - ‪Pak India Friendship Video‬‏

[Catya Sher]

^ But there are always "peaceniks" in every era and every country.

I can see by the way the videos are made that they are just empty propaganda
by such type of groups.

The general masses in each country do NOT bear a friendly attitude toward the other side; let alone the governmental structures.

How many times have you heard of someone exposing secret joint Pak-Indian
commando operations, or things like this?

It NEVER happens. The 2 are secretly and openly hostile both.

However I liked your use of the example of America and phony al-! as analogy.

Though I don't believe it fits in this case, it's still a good one to pull in
for all these Contrived Enemy scenarios --
which are only governmental CON-ARTISTS at work spinning their lies.

It's VERY true that one can NEVER discount that possibility and must keep on one's toes to look out for these Phantom Enemy paradigms wherever they
could show up.