Pakistani panjaabi army kills innocent man in karachi

[Nokia_Apridy]

shabaza da ya Tror zway zka da tol pa Weer kawe...........

awo haga Wazir ya TARBRUNA DI zka chay pa OKHA TALA Na kra...

[Shehbaz Khan]

^^^^^^^^

I don't make the rules, god does. God did not say to kill someone like that for committing does crimes.

???

Also, how do we know we was teasing girls? It seems the Pakistani establishment changes the reasons every second like a bipolar nut cases they are.

When did I say that Pakistani establishment said so ?

I would also like to add is where is the evidence? The witnesses? In Islam you need witnesses. For all we now is you are back-biting and are spreading propaganda against him as he is dead, and did not receive any type of trial or chance to defend himself.

That's exactly what I am asking for?
Did I support them for the killing, All I said was that there are such news around, Did I say che dwi sahe okral? I don't know whether you guys have read my first comment or not?


With that said, may god punish the Rangers, and grant the young man paradise.[/QUOTE]

[Shayesta]

trust me if you think so you have never been to Karachi,

I have to stop trusting you right there because Karachi was the last city of Pakistan I was at. And I don't have to be in Karachi to know what what non-Pukhtoon Pakistanis think of us; Pakistanis daily enter the UK and with the mentality they have, I am honestly not surprised their politicians fool them so easily.

What slang-words?

I will tell you about just a few 'jokes' my colleagues used to tease my brother with; 'Bacho ko ghar se bahar mat aane dena, Pathan agaya', or 'Khuda ne do tarah ke log banaya, ek insaan our ek Pathan', or 'Pathan ka demagh sar mein hota hai ya guthno mein', or 'Ek Pathan tha.....', followed by whatever nonsense that comes up to them. I only 'teased' them once about a Punjabi joke, they all reported me to the boss.

I said I am against this brutality done by the Rangers..

No wrora, that's not what your intentions came across as. You very clearly highlighted 'what would you do if someone did that to your sister', without any prove, any source or any confirmation whatsoever. You brought a dead life (and deep inside even you know he has been wronged) in question where the question wasn't even supposed to take place, for anyone 'neutral' or 'honest' no if's nor but's should be attached to such an sensitive issue. And you don't see this 'question mark' as an indirect insult to the victim and his family? At all?

[afghan]

Going further, this topic has nothing to do with Pakistan Army..

I repeat again I never said that I support Rangers in this Crime..

what are the rangers then? i thought they were part of your army. Now you are saying they are some sorta armed gangsters who rule your streets.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Even in recent times, Pakistani Army shot at a PREGNANT Chechen woman and killed her WHILE SHE WAS LAYING DOWN ...WAVING HER HAND IN SURRENDER

Shahbaz, what will it take for you to realize how morally bankrupt your military is?

Please explain the justification for this

YouTube - ‪Pakistan Army killed 5 innocent unarmed Chechens in Quetta - 1‬‏

[faye]

that is mass insanity. undefendable.

[Shehbaz Khan]

I have to stop trusting you right there because Karachi was the last city of Pakistan I was at. And I don't have to be in Karachi to know what what non-Pukhtoon Pakistanis think of us; Pakistanis daily enter the UK and with the mentality they have, I am honestly not surprised their politicians fool them so easily.

Hehe Kha nu you think that the normal Non-Pakhtuns in majority think of the Pakhtuns to be fools?

I will tell you about just a few 'jokes' my colleagues used to tease my brother with; 'Bacho ko ghar se bahar mat aane dena, Pathan agaya', or 'Khuda ne do tarah ke log banaya, ek insaan our ek Pathan', or 'Pathan ka demagh sar mein hota hai ya guthno mein', or 'Ek Pathan tha.....', followed by whatever nonsense that comes up to them. I only 'teased' them once about a Punjabi joke, they all reported me to the boss.

And you think this nonsense is actually created by the Non-Pakhtuns of Pakistan? Give it a break, you can't just blame the entire Non-Pakhtuns of Pakistan just for the sake of a few jokes, Racist Jokes are find everywhere in each and every society, Haven't you listened to the Sardar Ones? Or you are unaware of the Blonde ones?

No wrora, that's not what your intentions came across as. You very clearly highlighted 'what would you do if someone did that to your sister', without any prove, any source or any confirmation whatsoever. You brought a dead life (and deep inside even you know he has been wronged) in question where the question wasn't even supposed to take place, for anyone 'neutral' or 'honest' no if's nor but's should be attached to such an sensitive issue. And you don't see this 'question mark' as an indirect insult to the victim and his family? At all?

Shayesta Khorai, that wasn't my first post on the topic, that was my second one and I posted that when I met with a person who quoted an SSP and told me that, whatever might be the case, Wallah-o-Aalam, the brutality can't be ignored, I said it repeatedly again and again that I protested against the brutal killing, and if you too are following the news, even the DG Rangers is in deep **** !!

Manana

[Shehbaz Khan]

Even in recent times, Pakistani Army shot at a PREGNANT Chechen woman and killed her WHILE SHE WAS LAYING DOWN ...WAVING HER HAND IN SURRENDER

Shahbaz, what will it take for you to realize how morally bankrupt your military is?

Please explain the justification for this

YouTube - ‪Pakistan Army killed 5 innocent unarmed Chechens in Quetta - 1‬‏

Yes, as they say in Pukhtu, 'Wocho sara lwanda swazi' Same is the case, If these Chechens would have bombed a place you would have easily blamed Pakistan Army and ISI for that, the thing is that the Security Official standing at that place is the judge, If he does a mistake you can't blame the whole institution for that, and even that issue has resulted in an inquiry and the personnel involved are already expelled.

[Shehbaz Khan]

what are the rangers then? i thought they were part of your army. Now you are saying they are some sorta armed gangsters who rule your streets.

If you know, the Rangers is an entirely separate institution from Pakistan Army, like the Police and Army are different, same is the case of Rangers ..

I never said that, that's what you are saying, and I don't need to justify what you said..

And I repeat that your first comment about me on the topic was pathetic, you are just a sick creature.

[khushal]

Yes, as they say in Pukhtu, 'Wocho sara lwanda swazi' Same is the case, If these Chechens would have bombed a place you would have easily blamed Pakistan Army and ISI for that, the thing is that the Security Official standing at that place is the judge, If he does a mistake you can't blame the whole institution for that, and even that issue has resulted in an inquiry and the personnel involved are already expelled.

Those chechens were not armed and they are clearly surrendering. This shows
The Army has become a trigger happy lunatic psychos roaming the streets terrorizing its people.

[afghan]

Those chechens were not armed and they are clearly surrendering. This shows
The Army has become a trigger happy lunatic psychos roaming the streets terrorizing its people.

khushal you dont understand thats called preventive killing. they might have thought of killing some one.

[afghan]

If you know, the Rangers is an entirely separate institution from Pakistan Army, like the Police and Army are different, same is the case of Rangers ..

I never said that, that's what you are saying, and I don't need to justify what you said..

And I repeat that your first comment about me on the topic was pathetic, you are just a sick creature.

now i got it, your army men are angels, the rangers are the rappist and killers. for how long are you going to fool yourself?

[khushal]

On Wednesday, a young man was pitilessly killed in the heart of Karachi by state security forces. The repugnant moment was caught, in its entirety, on camera, and broadcast across the country and online.


In broad daylight, beside a park named after assassinated Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, the youth is dragged by his hair and thrown to a gang of Rangers (paramilitary police forces). Tall, weeping, and clothed in jeans and a t-shirt, he wipes his brow in anguish. The Rangers surround him. "Who will do it?" they suggest with their eyes to one another. They tease and test the boy's will by pointing their rifles at him. The youth pleads, bending down to touch their feet. He wants mercy, but clemency is out of stock here. One Ranger steps forward, menacingly, looking directly into the eyes of the youth, and presses his G3 rifle into his neck. But he withdraws, giving his target a moment more to cry, to beg, knowing, that these few seconds of life are a loan: "I am helpless... don't kill me brother," he pleads. The pack encircles 18-year-old Sarfaraz Shah, and two Rangers, ostensibly protectors of civilians, shoot two bullets into the teenager's shuddering legs and hands. He lay there, in a pool of claret-colored blood and dust, trembling, crying desperately for help. The Rangers leave him to die

[KingKhan]

Anybody who has some kind of trust with these Rangers, needs to have a good look into his life.

[Shayesta]

you think that the normal Non-Pakhtuns in majority think of the Pakhtuns to be fools?

Whether I think they believe so? Think? And where did I sort them out into 'majority' or 'minority'? It's a fact that we, Pukhtoons, are the laughing stock in many places (even Pakistan) and the fact you are arguing against it is quiet hilarious.

And you think this nonsense is actually created by the Non-Pakhtuns of Pakistan?

No, it's created by those very same Britons who divided us. Duh, if I have heard these jokes coming out of a Pakistani's mouth myself, then obviously I know where they are coming from.

Give it a break, you can't just blame the entire Non-Pakhtuns of Pakistan just for the sake of a few jokes, Racist Jokes are find everywhere in each and every society,

What did I blame them for, wrora? I am just pointing out facts; Facts that a gazillion of the SMS jokes in Pakistan are about 'Pathans', or how every non-Pukhtoon is always aware of at least ten 'Pathan' jokes, etcetera. Even my Punjabi friend here in UK still receives 'Pathan' jokes from her friends from Lahore, do you even use a mobile?

Haven't you listened to the Sardar Ones? Or you are unaware of the Blonde ones?

Just because jokes are shared about Sikhs and blondes as well doesn't mean Pukhtoons should laugh at themselves. There are some jokes going around in Afghanistan as well (about nearly every ethnic and every city) and I can have a healthy laugh at it. Pakistani jokes about us are endless and utterly disrespectful, because of these thrash 'jokes' I for the first time got fed up with people to the extent I didn't spare even one Punjabi joke. Thank God, they got their mouths shut since months now.

that wasn't my first post on the topic, that was my second one and I posted that when I met with a person who quoted an SSP and told me that,

Feel free to oust your opinion, feel free to shut anyone's mouth blaming entire Pakistani nation for this tragic, say anything you like. But by bringing in the 'teasing accusation' you are very indirectly taking into consideration this 'possibility', which I just find extremely insulting to the victim.