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  • Muslim Networks and Movements in Western Europe

    http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1817/mus...ent-transcript

    On Sept. 15, 2010, a group of scholars discussed key findings of a new study, "Muslim Networks and Movements in Western Europe," published by the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion and Public Life.The study examines several of the oldest, largest and most influential Muslim groups operating in Western Europe today, many of which are virtually unknown to non-Muslims.


    The idea is that you only really get a full understanding of some of these groups by understanding the broader landscape and terrain that they inhabit, particularly in terms of the nature of their relationships with other Muslim groups and movements in the milieu that they inhabit. The point is that some of the things they do and some of the things they say are shaped by the relationships they have and the ways they position themselves vis-à-vis other Muslim groups and movements. While a good many of these groups, particularly those that fall in the radical or jihadi category, have received a lot of attention -- perhaps not unfair to say fairly obsessive attention of late -- some of the groups that we deal with here are not known necessarily to a broad readership.

    The second point is really one that I think is going to be fairly obvious to most of you in this room, which is to say that an account of the presence of Muslim movements and networks in Europe is not simply a story about radicalization. It's not simply a story about terrorism, although that conversation tends to, for obvious reasons, dominate much of the public discussion of these issues.

    Fethullah Gülen

    Rather, we thought there would be value in precisely laying out and putting before an audience this broader landscape, not to suggest that the radicalization/terrorism-related issues are not important, but to actually say that one can develop a better understanding of the radicalization phenomena by looking at those groups in relationship to those who inhabit Muslim public space behind them. We look at the Fethullah Gülen movement, largely an educational initiative based on and driven by the followers of the Turkish reformer, scholar, educational entrepreneur, Fethullah Gülen. Present for several decades now, his followers have initiated and established 1,000 or more schools across many countries all over the world, from South America to East Asia, and indeed certainly here in Europe.

  • #2
    No, I only "consider" muslims and taliban and jihadists (different groups) while deployed. When I'm safe in the USA there's no reason to even think about muslims or the taliban.

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    • #3
      so MDresden, there is no difference for you between muslims and Taliban?

      No wonder why innocent civilians are dying..
      Intezar che pa salgo sho no ta raghley
      Che me jwand pa dobedo sho no ta raghley.....

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      • #4
        No, muslims are a people of faith. Taliban are the militants used to help/house other muslims and can become radical or jihadists. "Considering" means that...taking the time to think about.

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        • #5
          You have more to fear from car accidents than you do from deranged lunatics under the name of "Islam".

          I'm sure Western Europe will be fine.

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          • #6
            YouTube - ‪Muslim Demographics‬‏


            "consider" this
            Last edited by Alchemist; 06-09-2011, 06:26 PM.

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            • #7
              Keep up with the FUDD tactics and the Europeans may very well begin mass deportations.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Akherousin View Post
                Keep up with the FUDD tactics and the Europeans may very well begin mass deportations.


                Hitler is coming back?!

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                • #9
                  I can definitely say the "losing culture with a lower than 1.3 birth rate" part is incorrect, given that Japan and South Korea have still kept theirs.

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                  • #10
                    according to 'the burn in hell' judgements placed on muslims on pf, even for dyeing ones hair, most of those muslims will be evicted from muslimshood, for sure, due to partaking in the evils of the western world.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
                      Not to mention thousands of Muslims dying in Arab land and stans.
                      Intezar che pa salgo sho no ta raghley
                      Che me jwand pa dobedo sho no ta raghley.....

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