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  • #16
    so basically you agree with him that ethnicity matters?

    divide and conquer.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
      so basically you agree with him that ethnicity matters?

      divide and conquer.
      so you think Pashtuns are happy with Army pick up trucks, govt offices and airports carrying around Masouds picture?

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      • #18
        [QUOTE=Amir al Ghaznavi;458869]

        a bunch of patrons of drug lords upset that their govt wants to negotiate with another set of criminals
        The Taliban crushed crime, they executed murderers and rapists. They crushed the poppy drugs.

        They brought law and order. They brought Sharia law. Yes, their interpretation of Sharia was extreme (like banning music), but people value order over listening to music.

        People value independence and the end of foreign aggression over listening to music.

        As before, this explains why their power is extending throughout Afghanistan.

        Lets stick to facts.
        Last edited by Guest; 06-04-2011, 11:22 PM.

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        • #19
          Alchemist bro, you forget that Massoud and Rabani were the roots cause of civil war and what followed and is happening to this day. He conspired with the Parchamis and Russians to take Kabul and almost fought every one for power under Russian and his own ethnic chavunist design.

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          • #20
            Musharaf had a valid point of Pansheri chavunism! This is not to say that I am not aware of his own agenda, as Amir Ghaznavi has also highlighted too.

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            • #21
              I think this chapter is closed now for most Afghans, so lets move on. There are alot more important things to worry about. I see the creation of this movement and the development with a grain of hope. Should it mean that we are taking another step toward formal party politics at last?

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              • #22
                [QUOTE=unknownprince;458915]
                Originally posted by Amir al Ghaznavi View Post

                The Taliban crushed crime, they executed murderers and rapists. They crushed the poppy drugs.

                They brought law and order. They brought Sharia law. Yes, their interpretation of Sharia was extreme (like banning music), but people value order over listening to music.

                People value independence and the end of foreign aggression over listening to music.

                As before, this explains why their power is extending throughout Afghanistan.

                Lets stick to facts.
                They also killed thousands, discriminate against ethnicities, blew up the statues, oppressed women and took our country and culture back 100 yrs

                Yes let's stick to the facts

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                • #23
                  I wonder why Hanif Atmar has chosen to be with this Green movement, he and Qanooni are probably the most significant members. I think they need to demote Abdullah (he is symbol of failure and disgrace) and rather bring Qanooni or Atmar as their leader.

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                  • #24
                    Kadozadah bachem, what do you think, or even Alchemist...?!

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                    • #25
                      just like talibs and their supporters are idiots for calling anti talib people "northern alliance" or **** of that nature, u northern alliance people are retards for assuming people who are anti talib would be pro northern alliance. afghanistan would be better off if both ur groups vanished off the face of the earth. at least the talibs are fighting an occupier, no matter how awful their tactics are. what are the NA folks fighting for? stolen land deeds, bank money, property in dubai, and contracts from the americans?
                      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                      Sayyid Qutb

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                      • #26
                        U need Taliban for NA, only then the picture becomes complete.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
                          so basically you agree with him that ethnicity matters?

                          divide and conquer.
                          Ethnicity does not matter but your love for Massoud does not match the realities and facts of what he did. He did not serve the people of Afghanistan and his legacy continues with the Panjshiri leadership who today are not serving the people of Afghanistan. He has put Panjshir on a path where they are the most hated group in Afghanistan.

                          It were his decisions that divided Afghanistan, his decisions made the Afghan government fall, his decision forced the afghan army to split. He was an opportunist that was bought by the ISI, the Arabs, the Russians, the Iranians, the French, the Americans and many more.

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