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  • ^ I have hardly discussed Afghanistan before Ahmad Shah Abdali, so why should I go back even further in time while my present in Afghanistan? If you can't provide me with any sources nor can find any source for your claim then just give up, haven't you been embarrassed enough already?
    Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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    • Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
      ^ I have hardly discussed Afghanistan before Ahmad Shah Abdali, so why should I go back even further in time while my present in Afghanistan? If you can't provide me with any sources nor can find any source for your claim then just give up, haven't you been embarrassed enough already?
      I do not provide you with any source because I won´t waste my time with things that are obviously. You can go and look for sources for my claim. If I say Ghaznavids were not Pashtuns than go and read about them. Provde yourself the source. Everyone know that except you that Ghaznavids were not Pashtuns. I do not care what you believe or not. That´s your choice and your world. There are enough books. To impose your fake history on the world once you need to kill every scholar and evry historian.

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      • Originally posted by Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada View Post
        I do not provide you with any source because I won´t waste my time with things that are obviously. You can go and look for sources for my claim. If I say Ghaznavids were not Pashtuns than go and read about them. Provde yourself the source. Everyone know that except you that Ghaznavids were not Pashtuns. I do not care what you believe or not. That´s your choice and your world. There are enough books. To impose your fake history on the world once you need to kill every scholar and evry historian.
        mahmood ghaznavi was not pashtun.He was turk.
        The people of ghazni are pashtuns.



        Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

        pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
        be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
        gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
        be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
        hamza baba
        پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
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        • @Kabulzada
          If things are so obvious then you should have been able to provide me with sources easily, you could have prevented those days-long debates you know. And I repeat, I only asked for your claims since Ahmad Shah Baba's time, not before that. I never spoke of Ghaznavids being Pukhtoons (who were Turks by the way), don't hide your face by throwing false accusations at me. I am really not being trapped here.
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          • Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
            mahmood ghaznavi was not pashtun.He was turk.
            The people of ghazni are pashtuns.
            Ghazna as province was one by non-Pashtusn dominated even for 100 years ago. Hazaras and Pashtuns migrated there. Today, only the city is dominated by Tajiks. Your claim Ghazna is dominated by Pashtuns is wrong. Alone the Hazaras make 49%. Count to them due their language and cultue the farsiwans and you will get a dominance. But unfortunately, I didn´t see till today any census, at least not official.

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            • Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
              @Kabulzada
              If things are so obvious then you should have been able to provide me with sources easily, you could have prevented those days-long debates you know. And I repeat, I only asked for your claims since Ahmad Shah Baba's time, not before that. I never spoke of Ghaznavids being Pukhtoons (who were Turks by the way), don't hide your face by throwing false accusations at me. I am really not being trapped here.
              I did not accused you that you claimed taht but the Pashtun nationalists in general. ... as I wrote, I am not in duty to provide you anything and neither me or anyone else is really interested what you think or not. We care about facts and reality. And for that, there are many sources.

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              • ^ Like which sources? I couldn't find any sources for your claims in other threads so you could have been kind enough and open the eyes of your fellow Afghan sister by providing her with facts, right? If it's not your duty to come up with facts then don't make ridiculing every word of us a duty either. Got it?
                Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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                • Originally posted by Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada View Post
                  Ghazna as province was one by non-Pashtusn dominated even for 100 years ago. Hazaras and Pashtuns migrated there. Today, only the city is dominated by Tajiks. Your claim Ghazna is dominated by Pashtuns is wrong. Alone the Hazaras make 49%. Count to them due their language and cultue the farsiwans and you will get a dominance. But unfortunately, I didn´t see till today any census, at least not official.
                  THE TAJIKS IN GHAZNI ARE LIMITED TO CITY AREA ONLY AND THEY ARE ALSO MIGRATED THERE.
                  The hazaras were brought by ghilzai pashtun as a slave from bamyaan area so you are right they migrate.
                  The Ghazni province today is over 80% pashtuns with some exception in the westren distts where azaras dominate.



                  Support pashto language and greater pukhtoonkhwa.

                  pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                  be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                  gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                  be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                  hamza baba
                  پَښتو کښې اُولېکئ
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                  • ^ Not really, I doubt Pukhtoons outnumbering other ethnics. I think Angaar can give more specific details regarding population of Ghazni, but I think Tajiks indeed form slightly a bigger number than Pukhtoons.
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                    • Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                      mahmood ghaznavi was not pashtun.He was turk.
                      The people of ghazni are pashtuns.
                      You are correct.
                      Manas: History and Politics, Aurangzeb
                      Few figures from the Indian past strike most Hindus with as much revulsion as the Turkish conqueror, Mahmud of Ghazni. Mahmud succeeded his father, a warlord who had carved out an empire in central Asia and had established his capital at Ghazni, south of Kabul, in 998 AD at the age of 27


                      Kabulzada mind is weird. He is trying to turn Turk and Pashtun leaders and Scholars into Persian. He has no sources.

                      Kabulzada you are an idiot, if you need proof, go do some research and find the source yourself.

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                      • you people are wasting time on this braindead fascist.

                        he should be banned and anyone with his symptons should be directly banned.

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                              • Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                                ^ Not really, I doubt Pukhtoons outnumbering other ethnics. I think Angaar can give more specific details regarding population of Ghazni, but I think Tajiks indeed form slightly a bigger number than Pukhtoons.
                                You are partially right.
                                Only In the city center it is mostly Tajik.
                                Ghazni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                                The population of Ghazni City is multicultural and multi-ethnic, with approximately 50% Tajiks, 25% Pashtuns, 20% Hazaras, and 5% Hindus.[9]

                                But the province is mostly Pashtun
                                Ghazni Province - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                                The major ethnic groups in the province are Pashtuns (51%), and Persian speaking Hazaras and Tajiks (47%). There are also some Burki, and Uzbeks.

                                I believe this figure is inaccurate since the vast majority of the people of Ghazni live outside the city and most of those are pashtun. The Pashtun population of Ghazni is much higher than 51%. An accurate census has not been done in decades.

                                This is another source listing the ethnic population of the province.

                                The population of approximatley 1 million are divided at 49% Pashtun, 45% Hazara, 4% Tajik, and around 1% Hindu / Sikh, with other varying minorities. Agriculture and animal husbandry are the primary occupation of the citizens of Ghazni. Wheat, alfalfa, melons, and almonds are among the largest crops produced.
                                Last edited by khushal; 05-29-2011, 11:49 PM.

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