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  • #46
    shebhaz khan, a terrorist is one who terrorises or frightens others, so yes, there can be more than one set of terrorists.
    i agree about 9/11, in that it has never been proven that it was done by bin ladens group and suspicions abound that it was done by insiders of the usa, multinationals and members of bush administration.
    i hope that imran khan is genuine, for the sake of pakistan and the innocent members of it's society.
    Last edited by faye; 05-24-2011, 09:07 PM. Reason: spelling

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    • #47
      ^
      yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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      • #48
        It is very simple.

        There is a foreign power in Afganistan that violates Pakistani air space almost on daily basis and kills Pakistani citizens and Muslims. This is has gone on at least for 8 years since 2003-2004. This act is the worst transgression of Pakistan's sovereignty and those i.e., Pakistan Army responsible for defending Pakistan's sovereignty and its territory and space and border MUST TAKE AN ACTION. (It has state of the art aircrafts, anti-air craft machine guns, missiles, and nuclear weapons, etc....That is it has the full capability to hit down the drones...Pakistan Army has not hit down even one so far...).

        One can argue Pakistan doesn't have the capacity to counter the military might of US. If that is the case, then Pakistan as a sovereign state that cares for the blood-shed of its Pashtun citizens and has obligation to defend its sovereignty should take this matter to UN (united nations) security council and general assembly and other international forums concerned with implementing safegauds for maintaining sanctity for nations sovereignty.

        Pakistan has done none of the above so far. Instead Pakistan army has received 14 billion dollars from US in millitary aid. And it is on record General Kiyani asking US to increase drone attacks rather.

        So Imran Khan or ISI Khan must protest against army for failing to defend the sovereignty of Pakistan and on the conterary receiving billions of dollars from the violators.
        Last edited by Toramana; 05-25-2011, 04:55 PM.

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        • #49
          ^ That's what he is doing Protest against drones means against those who support it

          Plus, The state must decide and give Army/Air Force the sign to hit the drones
          yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
            ^ That's what he is doing Protest against drones means against those who support it

            Plus, The state must decide and give Army/Air Force the sign to hit the drones
            No that is not so simple...He never mentions the complicity of the army in the drone saga...And Pakistan's foreign policy especially that related to Afghanistan, FATA, and Kashmir is controlled by the army. Two times the move for reforms in FATA was sabotaged by army generals...moreover, once when the civilian govt tried to bring ISI under civilian control, that was undermined by the generals...

            Plus, it happened under Musharaf the military ruler and a serving general...Only a year ago, a general in Waziristan explained as how drones are effective in taking out Al-Qaueda leaders.

            Army is the actual rulers in Pakistan...every body knows that...but because Army is playing double game so the hypocrisy by the ISI Khan.
            Last edited by Toramana; 05-25-2011, 09:11 PM.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
              Plus, The state must decide and give Army/Air Force the sign to hit the drones
              Ponder over it a little and don't be shallow as a drop of water (like typical Pakistanis)...

              The generals who have grabbed power at the barrel of gun at slight stumbling of the politicians, suspended (and abused and trampled underneath their feet)constitutions, imposed decades long martial-laws (each time they came to power), hanged, incarcerated, and sent on exile popular leaders (e.g. Bhutoo, Mujib, Wali Khan, etc.), massacred whole bunch of people for being perceived traitors/anti-state (Bangalis and Baluchis), etc.... all this on the pretext that politicians/civilians and their actions posed grave threat to the integrity and sovereignty of the only ideological/holy state on the face of earth and the only fortress of Islam are awaiting political approval from lameduck Zardari...Bravo...

              For 8 years when Mushi and his clique of generals including Kiyani and Pasha were ruling with bruteforce and when drone attacks were going on full swing smashing Pakistan sovereignty every day, they i.e., Mushi and the generals, were awaiting approval from whom?

              Imagine if it were India sending the drone, would the generals had awaited decision from Zardari---wouldn't they hanged Zardari along with all the parlimentarians at the Abpara chowk Islamabad publically were not such approval forthcoming?

              Only Imi Khan or ISI khan can pretend to believe the nonsense that it is political indecision. Remeber, when Zardari tried to send Pasha to India in Mumbai attacks case, how he was rebuked.

              An institution that takes the lion share of the budget through nacked force and considers itself to be sole owner and custodian of the state and defender and guaranteer of its integrity and sovereignty is now sleeping, haan? Are these 14 billion dollars or what?

              That is why people demand ISI Khan should march on GHQ instead of parliament.
              Last edited by Toramana; 05-25-2011, 11:04 PM.

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