Who are the Taliban? [BBC Article]

[randolph85]

that would be tribal nationalism, which is retarded since they are pashtuns, and pashtun nationalism is retarded since we are all muslims. retardation to go around for all. i wouldnt say the taliban were a nationalist movement since they didnt court other pashtuns such as ol gulbadin.

[faye]

Faye, only supports Attacks on Nato as her Pakistan is famous for enjoying seeing Pashtuns fight Pashtuns, its their regular hobby.

now why is this robot coming on this forum to spew his hatred at everyone here when it is supposedly the pakistanis he hates?
why not go and spew your guts at the pakistanis on their forums?
you are the supposed pashtun that is here fighting other pashtuns and it is not a pretty sight. you are a sad character fueled by your hatred and you are obviously suffering but it won't help you by giving that hatred and lies to others. your pain is an issue you have to resolve inside yourself.
it certainly won't help you by making false, dumb accusations aginst me.

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

But isn´t that the part of Pashtun nationalism? Ghalzai´s vs Duranis. Duranis the kings, Ghalzai´s the victims. The Taliban self are a nationalistic movement.

Stop with the Paki Immy Khan propaganda dude, your a child, you know nothing.

Taliban are a Religionist Movement following a Wahabi/Deobandi Ideology

There nationalism is Islamic Nationalism meaning they want to make a Khalifat globally and follow Sharia.

Ghilzai vs Durrani is tribalism not Nationalism.

Nationalism is when all tribes are united under one banner, being a Pashtun banner, and a reformed Pashtunwali is the system of law not Sharia.

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

that would be tribal nationalism, which is retarded since they are pashtuns, and pashtun nationalism is retarded since we are all muslims. retardation to go around for all. i wouldnt say the taliban were a nationalist movement since they didnt court other pashtuns such as ol gulbadin.

That´s just having sense for Pashtuns. It´s OK for a Pashtun killing a Pashtun but it is not OK for a non-Pashtun to kill a Pashtun. Do you see the difference? That´s hypocrisy and very sad. So much innocent and wasted lifes. Gulbuddin self is a tribalist which is a main point of Pashtun nationalism. Taliban tried to drive non-Pashtuns out of Kabul valley and replace them by Pashtuns, specially by Kuchis. If this is not a nationalistic act than what is it than? They brought the theories of Pashtun nationalists (such as Afghan Mellat) to a practical reality.

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

that would be tribal nationalism, which is retarded since they are pashtuns, and pashtun nationalism is retarded since we are all muslims. retardation to go around for all. i wouldnt say the taliban were a nationalist movement since they didnt court other pashtuns such as ol gulbadin.

But its okay to study and speak Arabic as the language of paradise, pray towards Saudi Arabia, dream to be like Arabian Past icons, follow an Arabian Dietry system, copy their clothing, change your language script to theirs? and you talk about Nationalism? Dude, every Religion has its founders Nationalism imprinted on it, Judaism,Islam and Christianity oppose Nationalism because they fear their ideology would be booted. Anyway, I wish not to discuss it, just had to say it.

Pashtun Nationalism is not retarded, its the only hope.

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

That´s just having sense for Pashtuns. It´s OK for a Pashtun killing a Pashtun but it is not OK for a non-Pashtun to kill a Pashtun. Do you see the difference? That´s hypocrisy and very sad. So much innocent and wasted lifes. Gulbuddin self is a tribalist which is a main point of Pashtun nationalism. Taliban tried to drive non-Pashtuns out of Kabul valley and replace them by Pashtuns, specially by Kuchis. If this is not a nationalistic act than what is it than? They brought the theories of Pashtun nationalists (such as Afghan Mellat) to a practical reality.

Listen little child.

If Taliban were Nationalists they would have never reconised Pakistan, but it didnt take long for Mullah Zaeef to sit his Fat Kwana in Lahore, If the Taliban were Nationalists they would have ever allowed Punjabis,Arabs,Chechens and other trash from Abroad into their ranks or married into their families as we seen in Kandahar.
If Taliban were Nationalists they would have not killed Pashtun Nationalists in Swat and neither would they be idolising a Arab Radical by the name of Bin Laden.

Only Pakis say they are fighting a Nationalist war against America, but the ones fighting Pakistan are considered bad.

Taliban are no way in hell a Nationalist force, and neither are their principles nationalistic.

They are the proxies of others, that is all.

Always remember, Taliban didnt fire a single bullet on Pakistan during their prime time and according to Hamid GUl ISI Pakistan adores the Taliban because they are the first government who are friendly to Pakistan

[Albani_Rahmat_Kabulzada]

If Taliban were Nationalists they would have never reconised Pakistan, but it didnt take long for Mullah Zaeef to sit his Fat Kwana in Lahore, If the Taliban were Nationalists they would have ever allowed Punjabis,Arabs,Chechens and other trash from Abroad into their ranks or married into their families as we seen in Kandahar.
If Taliban were Nationalists they would have not killed Pashtun Nationalists in Swat and neither would they be idolising a Arab Radical by the name of Bin Laden.

Taliban are Pashtun nationalists who cooperated with wahabism and salafism the Arabs brought with them the last 120 years. Mojadeddi is an Syrian Arab and he is fully integrated into the Pashtun society, so Anwar Ul Haq Ahadi. Can you deny that my friend? Why did Bin Laden stay in Afghanistan? Why Pakistan did support Taliban? Of course they have their regional polit-interests but they also financed the Taliban and backed Wahabism to weak every other Pashtun nationalism within Pakistan. Their political agendas were used under the banner of Islam of the 7th century which we call today Wahabism. Since many Pashtuns are tribalists, the idea could eat very easy into their minds. Because Wahabism is based on tribalism and is in many ways a islamo-fascistic movement. The Pakistanis have lost the control of their own weapon. That´s the problem. Now Taliban want to establish also in Pakistan a 7th century islamic Sharia-led state (Talibanization of Pakistan). Why not? There live 15 Mio Pashtuns in Pakistan. Sure, Taliban is a proxy tool of US, Pakistan, Russia and Iran but that does not changes the facts. Hamid Gul self is a islamic fundamentalists who not only support Taliban but also Al-Qaida, the Islamic Brothership of Egypt, Hizb-i Tahrir and many more. Why should Pakistan sell it´s weapon to such world enemies if it´s not about Islamism? Taliban depend on Pakistan and it´s support. Without Pakistan, Taliban can´t survive. Neither Taliban nor Al-Qaida. The ISI have close links to high ranking Taliban commanders and they do not care if any footsoldier die. If one day they create another footsoldier. As long the real commanders are alive evrything is fine and the deals between ISI, Army and Taliban, Haqqaani ... can go on. The fight against the foreigners have no meaning, just to weak NATO and support Pakistani´s interests. The ''resistence'' against ISAF and NATO was obviously and is a natural phenomene everywhere, not an excuse. And how do you explain the acts of Taliban against non-Pashtuns? How should I say about non-Pashtuns who would act the same way toward the family or tribe of my mother?