Afghan town's despair as Nato eyes endgame

[MDresden]

So now you go back on your speeches with "duh."

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[faye]

duuuhhhh is the equivalent of your brainless comments. you are brainwashed and do not have the capacity to think outside the box of soldier speak. you need to work on that.

[ScimitarXEdge]

It's my idea to believe, that like the Native Americans (we actually have a lot of politics mirrored on their beliefs) the stronger your enemy appears the stronger you are. And if you take a second to understand that...things begin to unravel.

well then by that logic the Taliban must be an unbeatable Powerhouse since it's 30 countries against illiterate militia.

[MDresden]

Those "illiterate militia" use guerilla techniques where they are miles away from attacks and just blindly shoot out mortars that are ages old. However, those mortars do sometimes inpact while also they misguide people into blowing themselves up so they can continue living and inviting terrorism.

So, even a single person, can inpact great violence. It takes a single illterate militia and what...maybe a 5 minute lesson on how to shoot a mortar or pull the pin on their vest.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I don't think we ever want to destabilize a region. Destabilizing allows for a lot of wild cards and hence no "control."

As far as rooting out Taliban in Pakistan...that's either drone attacks or I'm guessing some kind of covert mission.

Your reasoning is faulty; British for example had pit different groups against each other; and were able to acquire control based on that; in fact that's the precise way to gain control because there's less resistance if each side considers each other an enemy when they deem an instigator an ally.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Those "illiterate militia" use guerilla techniques where they are miles away from attacks and just blindly shoot out mortars that are ages old. However, those mortars do sometimes inpact while also they misguide people into blowing themselves up so they can continue living and inviting terrorism.

So, even a single person, can inpact great violence. It takes a single illterate militia and what...maybe a 5 minute lesson on how to shoot a mortar or pull the pin on their vest.

In context to the discussion that's irrelevant; I'm well aware of Taliban's tactics.

You're using 30 + Nations against a militia; by your logic, not mine; you're alluding to the taliban as a more powerful oppoinent.

[MDresden]

So now you are saying we are instigators. What next?

Rather then trying to root out terrorists which is our goal you seem to want to encite violence.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I'm sure we gotta give the Afghans a fighting chance before we come in with covert ops. [Just a guess.]

It took nearly 16 years for your covert ops to get Bin Laden; not exactly surgical.

But regardless; why is the United States so entitled to push it's agendas in other parts of the world?

[MDresden]

In context to the discussion that's irrelevant; I'm well aware of Taliban's tactics.

You're using 30 + Nations against a militia; by your logic, not mine; you're alluding to the taliban as a more powerful oppoinent.

Powerful is hardly the word. A man or two firing from vast distances or a man using a vest.

It's like a small person going against a wave of people. That ideology isn't powerful at all.

A powerful enemy...now a single person I guess could be deemed "powerful" in the idea he's about to be killed while he blows himself up. However, that's not a powerful enemy, that's a desperate enemy.

[ScimitarXEdge]

So now you are saying we are instigators. What next?

Rather then trying to root out terrorists which is our goal you seem to want to encite violence.

Well you do meddle with other countries affaris a lot; TOTALLY unwelcome by the population except for puppets who don't represent the people.

I mean you funded Pakistan who are proxies of Imperialism in South Asia, the pakistanis had a covert mission with the United States to get Bin Laden; and now American military is trying to downplay everything so militants dont start revolting against the Pakistani Governmet en masse.

What about this isnt instigating?

[MDresden]

It took nearly 16 years for your covert ops to get Bin Laden; not exactly surgical.

But regardless; why is the United States so entitled to push it's agendas in other parts of the world?

I'm beginning to think Ghundal and Scimitar is one in the same lol. Ghundal for small news reports and 1 or 2 liner attacks and then Scimitar being the "think tank." LOL.

I'm not going to for one second answer actions of someone else.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Powerful is hardly the word. A man or two firing from vast distances or a man using a vest.

It's like a small person going against a wave of people. That ideology isn't powerful at all.

A powerful enemy...now a single person I guess could be deemed "powerful" in the idea he's about to be killed while he blows himself up. However, that's not a powerful enemy, that's a desperate enemy.

We could argue the same thing about an American hiding like a coward in ana apache or hiding like a coward in an aircraft carrier in the Sea and firing missiles from thousands of miles away and murdering villagers.

The Point is YOUR logic demonstrates that you view the Taliban as powerful since you're using so much fire power to combat them despite their apparent weakness.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I'm beginning to think Ghundal and Scimitar is one in the same lol. Ghundal for small news reports and 1 or 2 liner attacks and then Scimitar being the "think tank." LOL.

I'm not going to for one second answer actions of someone else.

Not at all. Ghundal likes the Taliban, I oppose both America and the Talibam

there's a difference.

[ghundal]

Scimitar,

The Taliban have existed in rural Afghanistan for centuries in terms of the strict adherence to Sharia and Pashtunwali.

Its just a name, but the system was always there. I present to you reality. my point is the rural Afghans should live the way they want to without anyone telling them what to do.