12 year old paki taught to be suicide bomber

[khushal]

Well, if one visits Pakistan they will tell you the same, that suicide bombings in Afghanistan is holy and good but suicide bombing in Pakistan is Haram and Sinful! Suicide bombing has become a Political tool of the ISI.

Actually Suicide bombing came to the region when America came to the region. Also Suicide bombing was first used in the middle east when America came to Lebanon. The bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon was deemed as effective and efficient so the use of it became wide spread against Israel.
But the Tamil Tigers(inventers of the suicide belt) used suicide bombing way before they were used in middle east. You maybe surprised to know that Suicide attacks were used against US forces in Vietnam. Viet Cong rebels used to run into US positions and blow up grenades sacrificing themselves in the attack.
Native Americans used to charge directly at the guns of US forces sacrificing themselves to shield their comrades behind them so the ones shielded could get close enough to attack the US forces with tomahawk axes and knives.
I can go on and on.
But my point is these things are merely a societies response to what they deem as aggression against a much more powerful foe. These things have always existed and always will, you can not turn off humanities will to resist against what they deem as their destruction.

[emkhan]

The very first suicide attack was made in Nortern Ireland long before 1950. So it is the creation of westerners.

[khushal]

The very first suicide attack was made in Nortern Ireland long before 1950. So it is the creation of westerners.

You and your Pakistani establishment brainwashed mind. Get a clue for once in your life. It has nothing to do with Western or eastern. It is the human essence to have their kin or their people survive. Suicide attack have been around since cave man days. You can even see this behavior in animals.
Read and learn this.

Altruism in animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Living beings have to reproduce to continue their species. However, reproduction by itself often proves insufficient, because if living things fail to provide adequate care for their offspring, the newborn cannot survive. In other words, if living things did not feel the need to protect and look after their offspring and did not do this successfully, newborn creatures would not be able to look after themselves and would soon die.

When we look at nature, we see the majority of living things display amazing self-sacrifice in order to protect and provide the best care for their offspring, incomparable to any form of sacrifice shown by human beings. Furthermore, these living things risk their lives for their young without a moment's hesitation. So, how did such self-sacrifice in animals develop?

Evolutionists claim that self-sacrifice displayed by living things, especially that shown towards their offspring, is instinctive behavior. What then does the word instinct mean?

Evolutionists define instinct as a sense of intuition inherent in living things. They claim that an inner voice whispers to a spider, a bird, a lion or a tiny insect to practice self-sacrifice to keep the generations going. In reply to a question regarding the source of this voice, they desperately say "mother nature". In the view of evolutionists, every phenomenon in nature is a miracle of nature.

However, it is evident that this claim is futile and meaningless, because nature itself, is already a created entity consisting of the stones, flowers, trees, rivers and mountains familiar to all of us. It is obvious that these entities cannot come together to furnish a living being with a new trait, which is a product of intelligence.

As a matter of fact, even Darwin himself was aware of this logical failure from the very beginning. In his book The Origin of Species, which he wrote in 1859, he expressed his self-doubt about his own theory in the following words:

So wonderful an instinct as that of the hive-bee making its cells will probably have occurred to many readers, as a difficulty sufficient to overthrow my whole theory. (Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species, p. 233)

Research conducted by scientists on living things has revealed that they live in an astounding harmony, coordination and collaboration with one another. Wherever one turns in nature, one is likely to see examples of this. For instance, some little birds utter a shrill alarm call when they see a bird of prey like a hawk or eagle approaching their flock, to warn their companions of the danger. Thus, they attract the attention of the attacker to themselves. This behavior considerably reduces the chance of survival of the bird who sounded the alarm. But despite this, the bird puts its own life at risk for the hundreds of other birds in the flock.

A majority of animals undertake all kind of self-sacrifice for their young. For example the incubation period of penguins is during the polar winter. Female penguins lay only one egg, leave incubation to the males, and return to the sea. During the four months of incubation, the male penguin has to resist violent polar storms at times reaching speeds of 120 kilometers per hour. Making great sacrifices for four full months without leaving the egg, the male penguin loses half of its body weight, because it has no chance of going hunting. Although it goes without any food for months, it does not go hunting, and resists the violent storms without ever leaving the egg. After the end of the four months, the female penguin shows up with a huge store of food. She has not wasted time in the meantime, but has worked for her young and stored food for it. She empties her stomach and takes over the job of caring for the young.

The care provided by the crocodile, a particularly savage animal, for its offspring is also quite astounding. First, the crocodile digs a hole for the incubation of its eggs. The temperature of the hole must never rise above 30ºC. A slight rise in temperature would threaten the lives of the offspring in the eggs. The crocodile takes care that the holes in which it places its eggs are located in rather shady places and goes to extraordinary efforts to keep the eggs at a constant temperature. Some crocodile species build nests of weeds on cold water. If the temperature of the nest still rises despite these measures, then the crocodile cools the nest by sprinkling urea on it.

The time when the eggs hatch is most important, because, in the event the crocodile failed to hear the noises coming from the nest, the young would be suffocated. The mother crocodile brings the eggs out and helps the offspring out of their eggs by using her teeth as tweezers. The crocodile, with her razor-sharp teeth, avoids the slightest movement likely to injure her young. The safest place for the newly born is the protective pouch in its mother's mouth which is specially designed to shelter half a dozen newly born crocodiles.

The meticulous care and concern a wild animal like the crocodile shows its offspring is only one of the examples proving the invalidity of the evolutionist claim of the struggle for life which maintains that the strong survive while the others are defeated and disappear.

The dolphin is another animal known for its self-sacrificing behavior. Dolphins raise their offspring with great care from the moment they are born. As soon as the newborn dolphin is born, it has to go up to the surface of the water for oxygen. To provide this, the mother dolphin shows amazingly conscious behavior and, using the tip of her nose, gently pushes the offspring above the surface of the water.

Just before birth, the movements of the mother dolphin slow down considerably. For this reason, two other females always accompany the mother dolphin during birth. Always remaining on either side of the mother, the assistant dolphins assume the responsibility of protecting her from possible attacks by sharks that might be attracted by the smell of blood.

How can this instinct, defined by evolutionists as "a drive observed in animals but not completely understood", guide animals to become civil engineers while building their nests, perfect soldiers while protecting their young or colonies, and turn even the most aggressive species into compassionate and gentle creatures towards their young?

Indeed, Darwin also had difficulties in answering this query, which he, himself, put forward. He often left related questions unanswered too. In his book The Origin of Species, he asks the following questions:

Thirdly, can instincts be acquired and modified through natural selection? What shall we say to so marvelous an instinct as that which leads the bee to make cells, which have practically anticipated the discoveries of profound mathematicians? (Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species, p.205)

As seen, Darwin's doubts on "Natural Selection" are quite precise. Although Darwin himself confesses that Natural Selection is not a reasonable explanation, the majority of evolutionists still insist on adhering to this fallacy.

Yet, every human being who observes nature with a clear consciousness sees that living things are not brutal, tough or uncompassionate because of the so-called struggle for life. On the contrary, living beings are self-sacrificing because of the "inspiration" their Creator bestowed upon them.

As expressed in the 68th verse of the Surat an-Nahl, which says "Your Lord revealed to bees…", "God" the Lord of the heavens and the earth and everything in between, the Infinitely Compassionate and Oft-Forgiving has control over all living things. Their instincts, which Darwin was unable to explain within the scope of evolution, are actually the inspiration given by God to all living things.

All life in nature is created by God. All living things come into being by the Will of God and behave in compliance with His inspiration. The self-sacrificing behavior, kindness and care living beings display towards their young are merely the reflection of God's name, the "Compassionate". This is revealed in the 7th verse of Surat an-Nahl:

"Your Lord is All-Gentle, Most Merciful"

[emkhan]

i know it is actually the reaction. my post was actually for those who relate it to Muslims only... But you ill minded take everything on your weak skull. come out of this state.

[MDresden]

Salaam Alaikum

[posted reply instead of new topic.]

[khushal]

i know it is actually the reaction. my post was actually for those who relate it to Muslims only... But you ill minded take everything on your weak skull. come out of this state.

If a westerner attacks Muslim values, your response is to attack western values. That is not the mature way to get your point across and it is unislamic. You have to change your mentality, your naive mind thinks in simple terms "us against them." This is the same thing Bush was preaching. We are all human beings and we all belong to humanity, This is the message of Islam.

[emkhan]

when kuffaar killing innocent Muslims then you don't have concern about humanity but when it comes to kuffaar being killed by Muslims then you people start using such beautiful words LOL. Its open hypocrisy.

[MDresden]

i did a report feature for admins/mods to hopefully change title from paki to Pakistanis.

[khushal]

when kuffaar killing innocent Muslims then you don't have concern about humanity but when it comes to kuffaar being killed by Muslims then you people start using such beautiful words LOL. Its open hypocrisy.

What are you talking about. Today the Muslims are being killed so concern for humanity is being raised. Concern for humanity should always be raised. Go read the Quaran. you know nothing about Islam.

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

Khushal roara the difference here, is that Arab groups are promoting this Distorted and fabricated view of Islam to support and promote Suicide bombing, I am sure in Islam it is prohibited to harm innocent civilians, but this culture, was not a homegrown one, they say, Suicide bombing was brought over by Iraqi Alqaeda members and taught to the Taliban, they infused Islamic texts to keep the attacker mentally focused and then taught how to explode, then they had a system whereby the victims families are assured of heaven.

EmKhan has lost it to be honest, he is Zia ul haq fan. Actually the first suicide attack was by Sampson, the old Israelite. lol! goes to show, doesnt it.

Em Khan please get a better education, and what is a Zia ul Haq fan and an Anti-Westerner doing in London. At times I dont blame the British Public concerns of Pakistanis associated with a Radical Mind-set.

Its always the wests fault, even though his friend Zia Ul haq begged Charlie wilson to give a good word in for a batch of F16's lol!

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

Mixing Religion and Suicide is a deadly combination. Psychologically Religion is associated with assurance of a better afterlife, Suicide bombing is associated with death and destruction, my point is that, people are exploiting, mis-using the Quran from a peaceful message to a hateful one, hench my Signature explains it all.

Its just very dangerous to deal with such people, that is why any one who has been mentally abused to think in such a way should be sent for Rehab and brought to their sense.

[emkhan]

What are you talking about. Today the Muslims are being killed so concern for humanity is being raised. Concern for humanity should always be raised. Go read the Quaran. you know nothing about Islam.

I never said suicide bombing is good or bad. I don't the authority to comment on this. You got me wrong. I said you secular people don't use these words when the Americans kill innocent Muslims and pashtuns but when Muslim retaliate then you humanity and islam comes to your mind.
you people use Islam for your own motives. If a verse of the Quran goes against your way of life then you never speak of Islam. This is hypocrisy.
For Pashtun ultranationalist, i would say he is a secular thug so he should not talk about Islam because his brain has been washed against the basic teachings of Islam.

[khushal]

Khushal roara the difference here, is that Arab groups are promoting this Distorted and fabricated view of Islam to support and promote Suicide bombing, I am sure in Islam it is prohibited to harm innocent civilians, but this culture, was not a homegrown one, they say, Suicide bombing was brought over by Iraqi Alqaeda members and taught to the Taliban, they infused Islamic texts to keep the attacker mentally focused and then taught how to explode, then they had a system whereby the victims families are assured of heaven.

EmKhan has lost it to be honest, he is Zia ul haq fan. Actually the first suicide attack was by Sampson, the old Israelite. lol! goes to show, doesnt it.

Em Khan please get a better education, and what is a Zia ul Haq fan and an Anti-Westerner doing in London. At times I dont blame the British Public concerns of Pakistanis associated with a Radical Mind-set.

Its always the wests fault, even though his friend Zia Ul haq begged Charlie wilson to give a good word in for a batch of F16's lol!

there are different speculation of how it came to Afghanistan, but that does not matter. Regardless the Pashtuns embraced it without thinking twice about it. Why did the Pashuns not embrace it during the Soviet War.
The Reasoning behind this is because the whole western world was behind them and giving them unlimited amount of arms, they did not need to wage such desperate attacks.
Today the resistance has much less resources so they turn to much desperate techniques to make up for the scarcity. Much like the Native Americans warriors that shielded their comrades behind them. They did that because they were desperate not because their religion told them to do it.

My point is desperation makes human being to do such "irrational" if you want to call it acts.

[emkhan]

there are different speculation of how it came to Afghanistan, but that does not matter. Regardless the Pashtuns embraced it without thinking twice about it. Why did the Pashuns not embrace it during the Soviet War.
The Reasoning behind this is because the whole western world was behind them and giving them unlimited amount of arms, they did not need to wage such desperate attacks.
Today the resistance has much less resources so they turn to much desperate techniques to make up for the scarcity. Much like the Native Americans warriors that shielded their comrades behind them. They did that because they were desperate not because their religion told them to do it.

My point is desperation makes human being to do such "irrational" if you want to call it acts.

Yes true... religion has nothing to do with this. It is just an extreme way to take revenge from the enemy.

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

EM Khan's hero Zia Ul Haq, the leader of Islamic republic of Pakistan sat with a semi-naked mistress