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  • What does Afghanistan have to give up or achieve

    What does Afghanistan have to give up or achieve In order to be on the road for success?


    Why are we an international toy? Why is it that when our people die nothing happens?


    What can we do to improve our statuses worldwide?

  • #2
    Afghanistan's relief lies in a gradual and steady process starting with good governance,followed by education,economic development on domestic level,balanced diplomatic relations with the neighbors,regional and global superpowers.

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    • #3
      short term solution
      i think everyone who isnt afghan needs to get the hell out of that country..Instead of installing a puppet leader, Obama should hold a grand jirga with all of afghan leaders and choose a new leader and government who arent a bunch of thugs and arent taliban

      Only this way can we get rid of taliban..people say education schools hospitals, these things are good for nothing until we have peace in the country

      Longterm solution

      We as pashtuns need to get over ourselves, i for one think that us pashtuns are so blinded by our "god gifted" abilities that we consider ourselves superior than every other race..we cant be like that, we are the leaders and we have to lead by example..and the best example will be to bring everybody together under one flag, the tajiks uzbeks everyone

      instituionalise the country, bring people together, we need to stop hanging on to our glorious days we need to work for our future..whats gone isnt coming back but we musnt let this country fall-apart anymore than it already has

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      • #4
        There is nothing wrong with selling our geological reserves,infact our geological reserves could be a fundamental source of revenue.

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        • #5
          My points made are in a "gradual and steady" manner,fully supportive and dependent of each other.
          If you have a very strong GDP but a corrupt ruling authority,its not gonna do u any good.Consequently,if you have a very good GDP but masses of illiterate population,ur strong GDP will run down the drain due to the lack of implementing sources.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kandahary
            Ya, but who decides to come to the Jirga? Who do you invite? Right now, Hamid Karzais brother is the Don of Kandahar, he is a billionare and owns mansion, how do you remove people like him out of power?

            Thats the thing, i said hold a jirga with the actual tribal leaders not these idiots and i think the intellectuals have a role to play here they can make this happen..but they just use the excuse that afghan government is too corrupt so we arent going to do anything either..they have a duty, and there duty is to mediate a meeting betweeen the actual afghans and the US president..Obama is a one time oppurtunity Afghanistan has, god forbid if the Republicans took over again then its bye bye

            Originally posted by Kandahary

            Explain what you mean by that respectful brother.

            Well what are you going to do with all those schools peera ? when they are going to get bombed the next day ? what is the use of these infatsructures when you dont have the environment to keep them going ?
            Ya, but they dont consider us as Afghans.


            Originally posted by Kandahary
            They want to change the language to Dari, rename the country, change the anthem from Pashto to dari, change Pohantoom to daneshgha, How much can we Pashtuns take?
            yara with proper dialogue ANYTHING can happen, we can come to a compromise..this is their country too and lemme tell you 99% of us arent willing to accept that, we have to let them have a share too...we have to give them a platform too, we have to allow them to express themselves too..Im not saying let them have everything they want but i know that we can reach a compromise with them..but we have to be willing for that..Being citizens of the same country how can we be this divided ?

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            • #7
              [QUOTE=PashtunQueen;32334]I beg to differ,

              I would argue that we keep our reserves and focus on building relationships with our neighbors, but Millatpal, You dodged a very main question here.


              The question is, Who rules, and which authority? We need 1 national language. I think Pashto and Dari do not get along with each other.


              I have pointed at the same direction,that our reserves guarantees us a strong economy and thus preserving our territorial integrity and sovereignty in the region.We lease our reserves and open doors to foreign energy thriving investors.
              It is irrelevant who rules or with what authority,as long as they are Pashtuns and hold loyalty to motherland Afghanistan.

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              • #8
                Looking at their past and present,YES.

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                • #9
                  They might go through an evolution and reform themselves,but thats then,for now they are not capable of running the country and not worthy of handed over the executive post.

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                  • #10
                    [QUOTE=Millatpal Noorzai;32343]
                    Originally posted by PashtunQueen
                    I beg to differ,

                    I would argue that we keep our reserves and focus on building relationships with our neighbors, but Millatpal, You dodged a very main question here.


                    The question is, Who rules, and which authority? We need 1 national language. I think Pashto and Dari do not get along with each other.


                    I have pointed at the same direction,that our reserves guarantees us a strong economy and thus preserving our territorial integrity and sovereignty in the region.We lease our reserves and open doors to foreign energy thriving investors.
                    It is irrelevant who rules or with what authority,as long as they are Pashtuns and hold loyalty to motherland Afghanistan.
                    If your talking about oil then tajikistan has already angle drilled most of it..as for rest of the stuff the chinks and al the foreign contractors are milking us for every single ruby we got

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                    • #11
                      [QUOTE=Max;32351]
                      Originally posted by Millatpal Noorzai View Post

                      If your talking about oil then tajikistan has already angle drilled most of it..as for rest of the stuff the chinks and al the foreign contractors are milking us for every single ruby we got
                      We didn't have much oil to begin with.Afghanistan is one a very few countries with untouched national resources,some as Coal,Copper,Uranium,Precious Gems etc.
                      Insurgency has not let foreigners milk us out of our resources,thats one thing we could thank Taliban for
                      Chinks paid 3 Billion dollars for a mere 5 years of Copper mine lease,i guess they reserve the right to drill it out.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Samima
                        The main problem is language, the south speaks Pashto.
                        The north speaks Dari.


                        Making a Kandahari speak Dari forever, picture that.


                        I think this is the most important factor that need to work on. We should make English our national language to solve all problems.

                        I have come to that conclusion several times myself,make English the official language of Afghanistan and get done with one migraine that has been bothering us for decades now.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Millatpal Noorzai View Post
                          I have come to that conclusion several times myself,make English the official language of Afghanistan and get done with one migraine that has been bothering us for decades now.
                          Hmm, So what happens to Pashto? Provincial language?
                          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by shlombay
                            What happens after we run out of that revenue?


                            Who should we be partners with? With Pakistan or with India and why.
                            By the time u run outta those reserves,u will have developed several other sources of generating revenue.UAE is the best example to look at.Their oil reserves are predicted to be drained out in a decade to two,yet they have already found a new source of economy growth as foreign investment and tourism.

                            We don't have to choose between Pak-India,our diplomatic approach has to be very much balanced and interest dominated with both.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                              Hmm, So what happens to Pashto? Provincial language?
                              No,,its just a silly and random thought that crosses my mind when frustrated with ongoing turmoil.
                              I think as Pashtuns,it is our fundamental duty to make Pashto official in a practical manner through out all Afghanistan.The quest has begun,but still alot o hurdles to reach destination.

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