We are Pashtun, We are Afghan, lets unify

[Darweshkhel]

lol pashtuns will never unify as a nation as long as they carry the tribes name. pashtuns are loyal to their own tribe only because he used to consider his tribe a nation.

[Badlun]

THIS POST IS SINPIRED FROM THIS RAHEEM SHAH SONG
YA QURBAN written by Feroz Khan Afridi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0VY9p1Q8_k

I am extremely worried about the increasing distance between the Pashtuns of Afghanistan and Pakistan ,,there is a need of more songs like this otherwise Pashtuns on both sides of the border will deem themselves as different races,,,,yes races because already they belong to two different nations ,,,Pakistani and Afghanistani or afghan,,,,,,,,,

Pashtuns on both sides of the durand line belong to one family, one blood, one language, one culture , one past but now being being part of two different countries,,distance is increasing between them..Pashtuns in Paksitan are coming under influence of Panjabis and Urdu speakers and Pashtuns in Afghanistan are coming under influence of Tajiks and Persian speakers.

What do you suggest how Pashtuns on both sides can be culturally and linguistically united ?????Their cultural and linguistic unity is the only possibility as their political unity is now an unattainable dream

What about your comments that how distance between Pashtuns on both sides of the durand line can be reduced and they may come together atleast culturally???? They must be realistic in their approach.Some Pashtuns on both sides want merger of Pashtuns areas which is impossible as how Afghanistan will leave its non -Pashtun areas to be merged with Pashtun areas for a greater Pashtunistan ,,,impossible,,,and how Pakistan will let its Pashtun areas to be separated,,,,,,thats would be too impossible for Pakistan ,,,,,,

I wish we discuss here how Pashtuns from both sides of the durand line can be united at least culturally,psychologically and liguistically if not politically.

I REQUEST FRIENDS FROM PAKISTAN AND AFGHANISTAN TO PARTICIPATE AND GIVE THEIR FEED BACK ON THE ISSUE

As the distance is increasiing and we must learn from nations who speak the same language and have the same culture but are politically different ,,,,,for example all Arab,Spanish,German, French ,English etc speaking people are not the citizens of the same countries but psychologically ,linguistically , culturally they have enormous ties and meet each other in all such events and try to develop linkages which further strenghten thier bonds

We pashtuns on both sides of the border if cant become one nation politically at least can feel one ethnic group and sons of the same father living in different houses ,,,,,,,We must encourage connections with each other by marriages,conferences,and friendships,. We must feel near to an Afghan Pashtun than to a Pakistani Panjabi and vice versa

[Badlun]

Tribalism is a very important issue however as I said in another thread , tribes are just flowers of one tree. All Pashtuns are one but divided in different colours of flowers in the form of tribes. But if you just say I am Pashtun , thats enough because you identify yourself with the whole, the tree, not the part, the flower.

Tribes are like different names of the children of the same father. We cant call them sons but give them a name. Seventy million Pashtuns have naturally sub divisions in the form of tribes or khels but all these are symbolic. The essence is being Pashtun.

Tribes may be taken very lightly and no preference may be given to one or another tribe. We all belong to one blood and specially in foreign countries we may introduce ourselves just Pashtuns.

Tribes have another benifit that it make you more Pashtun once you feel belonging to a tribe.

[Afghan_Soldier]

ghanistani or afghan,,,,,,,,,

Pashtuns in Paksitan are coming under influence of Panjabis and Urdu speakers and Pashtuns in Afghanistan are coming under influence of Tajiks and Persian speakers.

Pack it in and save it, b/c that is the biggest horse sh1t (in red) you are lying there... Thank you.

[Afghan_Soldier]

No it is not a good thig with Pak-i-stan, dear James. We don't like to have anything to do with them.

[Afghan_Soldier]

Alaka, they are happy and proud Pak-i-stanis. Those who wants to be with us are welcome, they are our brothers. Majority are Pak-i-stanian and the other are sleeping, and when they wake up they will be roasted as chicken tikka massala. I have nothing against unity with any Pashtun, I simply cannot stand any Pashtun to deal with as Pak-i-stani.

[Afghan_Soldier]

May be I have been too concious and sensetive of Pakistan and its involvement in Afghanistan. We suffer due to Pak-i-stan. I am a nationalist Pashtun and if you describe my feeling towards Pakistan as hate then so be it. Paksitan has unbridled hidden animosity towards us, you only get to see what appears overt to you. May be you are sleeping, what exactly do you want me che mazgha de par khlas krram? And not to mention the ISI Pashtuns...

[Afghan_Soldier]

Where did I insult you granaya? Don't insult your own intelligence or mine about asking me what is obvious to even a 5 years old Afghan kid. Go and watch Mahmood Khan's speech on what Pakistan's involvement in Afghanistan has been. Just google Pak/Afghan relations and if you find anything hard then I will throw in some light for you.

Goolge for Zia-ul-Haq'a remark about "keeping the water boiling in Afg in to the right tepmrature" to his generals. Or even "Kabul must burn". I will get some sleep and you do that till then and we will discuss is when I'm back, anon.

[Muslimah]

Pakistan does have different views than Afghanistan. That I can say.
But, the Afghans that are in Pakistan (NWFP) do not claim to be pakistani. They are Pashtun through and through. Peshawar is 99% Pashtun. If you are Pakistani and go into that part, you will be looked at like a foreigner.
Looking at it from a historic perspective, It seems Pashtuns migrated to Pakistan (as well as Iran) to be spared from the wars. But they are still very cultured and very strong to who they are. Again, that doesn't speak for all, but that also doesn't mean all AFghans from AFghanistan are cultured either.

You should all just get along. If you're Pashtun and proud to be pashtun, it shouldn't matter where you live. PF serves the best example for this. There are Pashtuns in here from ALLLLLLLLL over the world. And it is such a happy Pashtun-loving place. Its proof that it can work.

[Son of Mountains]

No it is not a good thig with Pak-i-stan, dear James. We don't like to have anything to do with them.

Discovering another word Mr?

[Afghan_Soldier]

^Giving it abit of a spin so it sounds like I am pronouncing it properly in Urdu. Sod off man, don't waste my time.

[Son of Mountains]

But, the Afghans that are in Pakistan (NWFP) do not claim to be pakistani. They are Pashtun through and through. Peshawar is 99% Pashtun. If you are Pakistani and go into that part, you will be looked at like a foreigner.
Looking at it from a historic perspective, It seems Pashtuns migrated to Pakistan (as well as Iran) to be spared from the wars. But they are still very cultured and very strong to who they are. Again, that doesn't speak for all, but that also doesn't mean all AFghans from AFghanistan are cultured either.

You should all just get along. If you're Pashtun and proud to be pashtun, it shouldn't matter where you live. PF serves the best example for this. There are Pashtuns in here from ALLLLLLLLL over the world. And it is such a happy Pashtun-loving place. Its proof that it can work.

A truth in pink words......but some people put forward a wrong pic....self assumed.
Best line in the RED..its need of time
Thanks Muslima khorey

[Muslimah]

aww shucks. The non-pashtun had something smart to say! *feels special*
Manana :D My pleasure

[Afghan_Soldier]

So you are not Pakistani? lmao.

[Muslimah]

i am white if you're talking to me!