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    The Real Housewife of Abbottabad: What bin Laden's Spouse Knows

    The U.S. Navy Seal team that killed Osama bin Laden and removed a bonanza of documents and flash drives may have left behind a vital source of intelligence: bin Laden's wife Amal Ahmed Abdul Fatah. The story of how she found her way back to bin Laden's hideout in Pakistan from Yemen could well have revealed crucial clues as to whether Pakistani authorities had been aware of the al-Qaeda leader's presence in their country. And if U.S. officials had been tracking her at the time, they might have found bin Laden sooner.
    The White House says that Amal, 24, was shot in the calf when she charged at the Seals who burst into bin Laden's bedroom, presumably to protect her husband. Bin Laden's body was taken away for burial in the Arabian Sea. But Amal was left behind, along with her young daughter Safiyah, who Pakistani officials say witnessed her father's killing. It is not clear how many of the dozen other children in the compound were bin Laden's. Pakistani officials say bin Laden's wife and daughter are now recovering in a military hospital in Rawalpindi, and they have released Amal's passport photograph.
    (See pictures of Osama bin Laden's Pakistan hideout.)
    The photo shows a pale young woman with generous lips. In accordance with Islamic convention, her face is framed by a headscarf and she is wearing no lipstick or makeup. Later Pakistani press reports suggested that bin Laden may have had several other wives staying with him, but his original spouses are believed to be in Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iran, possibly under house arrest.
    In 2002, Amal reportedly gave an interview to a Saudi woman's magazine, Al Majalla, in which she explained how, after the 9/11 attacks, she made her way out of Afghanistan back to Yemen with assistance from Pakistani officials.
    Bin Laden's widow told her Saudi interviewer at the time, "When the U.S. bombing of Afghanistan started, we moved to a mountainous area with some children and lived in one of the caves for two months until one of his sons came with a group of tribesmen and took us with them. I did not know that we were going to Pakistan until they handed us over to the Pakistani government."
    Parts of that account were confirmed to TIME in a telephone interview with an Arab woman who prefers not to be identified but who knew bin Laden personally in Afghanistan and whose family formed part of al-Qaeda's inner circle. After 9/11, al-Qaeda's leadership decided to evacuate their families. "All the families had to leave Afghanistan swiftly," the Arab woman said. "They didn't want their women and children captured." However, one of bin Laden's former aides in Yemen insists that Amal never reached home.
    (See a photo album of the bin Laden family.)
    After bin Laden's young bride — Amal was then 19 — was turned over to the Pakistani authorities, she and her daughter Safiyah were released and allowed to fly home to Ibb, a town not far from Sana'a, Yemen's capital, where her father worked as a minor civil servant.
    But bin Laden somehow arranged for Amal to rejoin him and his kids in Pakistan. In her magazine interview, she was asked if she would return to her fugitive husband. Her enigmatic reply: "Let us see what happens." Pakistani press quoted officials as saying that Amal claimed to have been living with bin Laden in the Abbottabad safe house for five years.
    (See photos of Navy Seals in action.)
    With the benefit of hindsight, it seems that U.S. counterterrorism experts spent years trying to decipher the name and the whereabouts of bin Laden's elusive courier, when keeping tabs on his comely young wife might have led them to him sooner.
    Then there's the question of whether Pakistani authorities had been aware that bin Laden's wife had returned to their country. Robert Grenier, a former director of the CIA's Counterterrorism Center and a security expert, says it's not impossible to imagine that the Pakistanis could have let Amal leave the country and failed to detect her return. "The Pakistanis would want to get her back home," Grenier tells TIME. "There are cultural taboos that come up with women. They certainly wouldn't facilitate her interrogation by foreigners."
    (See pictures of the battle against the Taliban.)
    So far, Pakistan is refusing to let U.S. officials anywhere near Amal, now under guard in a hospital. Chances are, that won't change — cultural taboos aside, she may know too many uncomfortable truths. Pakistani army chief General Ashfaq Kayani said Thursday, May 5, that Pakistan is ordering all but the "minimum essential" American personnel to leave the country, a sign that the tense relations between Pakistan and the U.S. have worsened as a result of the Abbottabad raid.
    Pakistan's security establishment has long been accused of playing a double game: taking billions in U.S. aid while secretly backing select jihadi militants in Afghanistan and in Pakistan's tribal region. Even al-Qaeda types were expected to play ball. Says the Arab woman formerly connected to al-Qaeda: "There was an understanding with the Pakistani army. We would get a tip-off that the army planned to raid one of our houses in the tribal area. We would flee but leave some 'evidence' behind so that the army could show to the Americans that we'd been there."
    CIA Director Leon Panetta said this week that "either [the Pakistanis] were involved or incompetent. Neither is a good place to be." But Grenier suggests a more complex scenario: "I'm not giving an alibi for the Pakistanis, but it's virtually inconceivable that Osama and those close to him would have voluntarily allowed their presence to be known by Pakistani officials, especially given the large number of his followers captured by Pakistan. We don't trust the Pakistanis. Why should he?" On the other hand, he adds, "If his whereabouts were discovered by the Pakistani officials, I can envision them saying, 'He's keeping a low profile, and if we turn him over to the Americans, it will create a real firestorm for us.' "
    (Read more about the CIA's rare public victory.)
    Amal may be said to have leaped to her husband's defense during the Seal raid, but her acquaintance interviewed by TIME remembers her as being shy and meek when she was first brought to Kandahar in 2000 and was staying with one of bin Laden's other wives. "She was new. She was out of place. The sheik's other wives were much older than she was. So were many of his sons," the source claims.
    Amal became bin Laden's fifth wife. His first, Saada, never got over the fact that the billionaire's son she married preferred a simple hut in Afghanistan to a palace back home. In 2000, bin Laden sent a trusted Yemeni aide, Abual Fida, on the hunt for a new bride. As Fida later told an interviewer, bin Laden wanted his new wife to be "religious, generous, well brought up, quiet, calm and young enough not to feel jealous of the sheik's other wives."
    Despite the huge age gap between Amal and bin Laden, her family considered it an honor to marry off their daughter to him. The al-Qaeda chief reportedly paid $5,000 in jewelry and clothes for his teenage bride, who was then brought to Afghanistan to marry the grizzled warrior — already on the U.S. most-wanted list for his role in the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. "To me, it's astonishing that she came back to join him [in Pakistan]," says the source with former ties to al-Qaeda. "None of the other fighters brought back their wives." But did the Pakistani authorities know that she had returned from Yemen? With bin Laden's wife now in Pakistani custody, the White House won't find out anytime soon.
    Tim McGirk, a former TIME bureau chief, is a fellow at the University of California at Berkeley's Investigative Reporting Program.

    Read more: Osama bin Laden's Wife Amal: A Source of al-Qaeda Info? - TIME

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    Miz Hewad Barbud Shwa pa da gha Arabay Levanay Jihad shay, pira Pakhtunkhwa pa boobmina shay Barbud shwoo, Little boys influenced by his calls of war were sent brainwashed and used to attack Markets etc even in Iraq Disabled young boys were used by Alqaeda to get through check posts to blow themselves up.

    Now he, and his serveral wifes were enjoying a Harem Status Living, he lived safely with the protection of Pakistani Intelligence Services.

    Its amazing how hardly anybody on here is realising the cowardly act of this Imperialist. He has given Islam and Muslims a very bad name, I am sure majority of the Muslim world are happy over this cowards death, hiding behind his wifes, I thought he was a worrior and a fighter?

    All the innocent Pashtuns who have been slaughtered by this cowards orders and ideology, our tribal elders alone in Waziristan were slaughtered by his henchmen because they opposed their presence.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Pashtun_Ultranationalist View Post
      Miz Hewad Barbud Shwa pa da gha Arabay Levanay Jihad shay, pira Pakhtunkhwa pa boobmina shay Barbud shwoo, Little boys influenced by his calls of war were sent brainwashed and used to attack Markets etc even in Iraq Disabled young boys were used by Alqaeda to get through check posts to blow themselves up.

      Now he, and his serveral wifes were enjoying a Harem Status Living, he lived safely with the protection of Pakistani Intelligence Services.

      Its amazing how hardly anybody on here is realising the cowardly act of this Imperialist. He has given Islam and Muslims a very bad name, I am sure majority of the Muslim world are happy over this cowards death, hiding behind his wifes, I thought he was a worrior and a fighter?

      All the innocent Pashtuns who have been slaughtered by this cowards orders and ideology, our tribal elders alone in Waziristan were slaughtered by his henchmen because they opposed their presence.
      Hmmm, you haven't yet commented on how

      A) Your mansion claims have been debunked:

      http://english.aljazeera.net/video/a...301766561.html

      Central Intelligence itself has recognized the tenacity and the patience of this fighter:


      "However, Bin Laden was so adept at hiding that the CIA admit to admiring his commitment, having rejected the suspicious-looking trappings of bodyguards and vehicles.

      According to Pakistan security officials, the al Qaeda leader spent
      The claims were made by the terrorist leader's wife, who apparently told interrogators that she and her husband had not left the same room for the past half a decade

      'You’ve got to give him credit for his tradecraft,' a former senior CIA official who played a leading role in the manhunt told The Washington Post."

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nd-MONTHS.html


      From the Gaurdian of London:

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/05/bin-laden-death-family-compound

      "Pakistani security officials arriving at the scene after the US raid found a spartan house."



      B) Your commentary of him not seeing the front lines of actions in the past are historicaly innacurate per Scheuer's biographies as well as Bergen's. At this juncture he was, as those videos show, an operation leader of the whole movement.

      C) Regarding Afghans being happy, you have to comment on this (which is actual footage versus Toramana's Tarhat Taj ANDERSEN propaganda pieces that allude to some random tribesmen somewhere that met her in the dark of night:

      http://english.aljazeera.net/video/a...315358960.html

      D) How does one cede the moral imperitive to the US when their Harem consists of Britney Spears, Faith Hill, etc visiting their bases to rile them up... We already knew from Paul Refsdahl's stunning documentary that front line Taliban fighters kept their wives and children with them and even involved them in the struggle. To you perhaps, you can propagandize this into making it seem as if they were getting sexual satisifaction instead of fighting a war.

      However, to the rest of the public and those who are emotionally invested in this, they laugh at your attempts to morally reconcile this with consensual marital sex:

      "Women in the U.S. military are more likely to be raped by fellow soldiers than killed by enemy fire. I know what you're thinking - it sounds too unbelievable to be true. But it's not.


      The Department of Defense estimates that more than 19,000 service members were raped or sexually assaulted in 2010. Due to a military culture heavy on retaliation and light on prosecution, only 13.5 percent of the victims report the rape."

      found here:
      http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...INS91J05RF.DTL


      loool, bottom line PashtunUN, you are still stinging from the defeat that you Marxists recieved and think you got vengeance. Its sad when people live in 1980s era time warp (remember, everyone had bad hair back then )

      Until you respond to each of these issues, all future responses of yours will just recieve a cut and paste of the above to save us time and bog you down in your idiocy.


      "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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      • #4
        hmmmm that isn't what the article is saying?

        I just wonder what is to gain for Americans constantly changing the whole story in the event. They keep using the "fog of war" excuse but the attack was allegedly well coordinated and there is video footage which Hilary Clinton says she watched live.

        I just don't get the need to lie.

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