The Hypocrisy

[Toramana]

"It is the extreme brazenness that gets you. Osama was not hiding in some rat hole like Saddam Hussain, bewildered by his forced isolation; but in a sprawling bungalow, in the hub of a cantonment, with wives and children, drinking American soft drinks by the gallon and butchering a live goat everyday to barbeque kebabs in the tandoor."

http://www.zeenews.com/blog/19/blog542.html

Choose martyrdom and jehad for others, mostly poor people ... choose lavishness and secure life for yourself ...and then justify it saying it is an individual choice...

This hypocrisy is particularly notable of Ikhwanis, Deobandis, e.g., most of the Jumath-i-Islami leaders never sent their kids for jehad or suicide bombing mission...Also how they have asked general Muslims to boycot American/Jewish soft drink...

[BarakzaiAbdali]

"It is the extreme brazenness that gets you. Osama was not hiding in some rat hole like Saddam Hussain, bewildered by his forced isolation; but in a sprawling bungalow, in the hub of a cantonment, with wives and children, drinking American soft drinks by the gallon and butchering a live goat everyday to barbeque kebabs in the tandoor."

http://www.zeenews.com/blog/19/blog542.html

Choose martyrdom and jehad for others, mostly poor people ... choose lavishness and secure life for yourself ...and then justify it saying it is an individual choice...

This hypocrisy is particularly notable of Ikhwanis, Deobandis, e.g., most of the Jumath-i-Islami leaders never sent their kids for jehad or suicide bombing mission...Also how they have asked general Muslims to boycot American/Jewish soft drink...

wow, that ever reliable source, Zeenews. Give me a break

Yet we see the Gaurdian noting the exact opposite. And Toramana, when has Mr. Achekzai ever even seen the face of battle as Mr. Bin ladin has? Or for that matter Mr Karzai fled all the way to Baltimore to get away from helping his people.

If anything, were you claims to be true, which they are not, Mr. Bin Ladin pretty much earned his marks on the battle field, unlike your leaders who have yet to match words with deeds. We can even credit Bugti with at least trying to do as much. Such a shame that Pashtun nationalists have the Prom King and Queen as Mr. Achekzai and Miss Taj ANDERSEN and the court jester as Mr. Asfandyaar. Mr. Ahady across the street is likely carrying the King's water, albeit unsuccessfully.

From the Gaurdian of London:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/05/bin-laden-death-family-compound

"Pakistani security officials arriving at the scene after the US raid found a spartan house."

here is the definition of the word Spartan from dictionary.com.

[spahr-tn] Show IPA –adjective 1. Also, Spar·tan·ic  /spɑrˈtænɪk/ show+spelled">Show Spelled[spahr-tan-ik] Show IPA. of or pertaining to Sparta or its people.

2. suggestive of the ancient Spartans; sternly disciplined and rigorously simple, frugal, or austere.

3. brave; undaunted.

[ScimitarXEdge]

"It is the extreme brazenness that gets you. Osama was not hiding in some rat hole like Saddam Hussain, bewildered by his forced isolation; but in a sprawling bungalow, in the hub of a cantonment, with wives and children, drinking American soft drinks by the gallon and butchering a live goat everyday to barbeque kebabs in the tandoor."

http://www.zeenews.com/blog/19/blog542.html

Choose martyrdom and jehad for others, mostly poor people ... choose lavishness and secure life for yourself ...and then justify it saying it is an individual choice...

This hypocrisy is particularly notable of Ikhwanis, Deobandis, e.g., most of the Jumath-i-Islami leaders never sent their kids for jehad or suicide bombing mission...Also how they have asked general Muslims to boycot American/Jewish soft drink...

You do realize the Ikhwan are anti Al-Qaeda right?

I knew there was a reason why you were avoiding previous threads. You think that avoiding people will forget and then you can spew a lie without impunity.

[MDresden]

wow, that ever reliable source, Zeenews. Give me a break

Yet we see the Gaurdian noting the exact opposite. And Toramana, when has Mr. Achekzai ever even seen the face of battle as Mr. Bin ladin has? Or for that matter Mr Karzai fled all the way to Baltimore to get away from helping his people.

If anything, were you claims to be true, which they are not, Mr. Bin Ladin pretty much earned his marks on the battle field, unlike your leaders who have yet to match words with deeds. We can even credit Bugti with at least trying to do as much. Such a shame that Pashtun nationalists have the Prom King and Queen as Mr. Achekzai and Miss Taj ANDERSEN and the court jester as Mr. Asfandyaar. Mr. Ahady across the street is likely carrying the King's water, albeit unsuccessfully.

From the Gaurdian of London:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/05/bin-laden-death-family-compound

"Pakistani security officials arriving at the scene after the US raid found a spartan house."

here is the definition of the word Spartan from dictionary.com.

[spahr-tn] Show IPA –adjective 1. Also, Spar·tan·ic  /spɑrˈtænɪk/ show+spelled">Show Spelled[spahr-tan-ik] Show IPA. of or pertaining to Sparta or its people.

2. suggestive of the ancient Spartans; sternly disciplined and rigorously simple, frugal, or austere.

3. brave; undaunted.

You give me a break. You are trash that come on these forums seeking the continuance of opression of the Afghan people and speak so kind words of the Taliban. I despise you and the soil you walk on.

[faye]

wkileaks is false flag bs.

[MDresden]

wkileaks is false flag bs.

There must be some truth to wikileaks...I mean we are prosecuting just about everyone that has helped wikileaks it seems. lol.

[faye]

are we??? so??? i thought they hadn't proved any link with that young guy they set up for it.

[MDresden]

He used specific software and all our actions on government PC/laptop are logged and retained...so yet...they have all they need.

[faye]

doesn't mean he wasn't set up with bs. i have so much trust in your government, have you noticed?

[MDresden]

doesn't mean he wasn't set up with bs. i have so much trust in your government, have you noticed?

As much trust as I have in the words of someone named "faye" on the world wide web.

[faye]

as if i care. one day when you realise the truth of my madness you will say to yourself, 'man, why was i so dumb as to not heed her words of wisdom?'

[BarakzaiAbdali]

as if i care. one day when you realise the truth of my madness you will say to yourself, 'man, why was i so dumb as to not heed her words of wisdom?'

I think he thinks you are Al Qaeda.

[Alchemist]

You give me a break. You are trash that come on these forums seeking the continuance of opression of the Afghan people and speak so kind words of the bush and obama. I despise you and the soil you walk on.

ditto to

you too

[BarakzaiAbdali]

You give me a break. You are trash that come on these forums seeking the continuance of opression of the Afghan people and speak so kind words of the Taliban. I despise you and the soil you walk on.

Ah Matt, you give yourself away so easily. I dont despise you, but I do despise your inability to walk the walk and talk the talk. On the one hand you claim you cannot comment on policy... but yet you comment on it right here.

Its rather said that the more rational soldiers are the female ones... it sort of belies and undoes the claim I often heard stated often on here that women are less rational and more emotional. What in the commentary is untrue? It appears that anything that undoes your belief that you are Clark Kent by day and Superman by night, protecting and stabilizing the world, jars you. That is nonsurvivalist trait my friend. It denotes a certain level of not understanding your enemy to the point of underestimating him and referring to yourself as a rabid dog as if you did the hard legwork here. Central Intelligence found the courier and the SEALs the intervention.

Lets see what Central Intelligence has to say about the issue. Remember, they were the ones to catch him and kill him... whereas your leadership under Petreaus appears to be unable to win a war with an enemy armed with Korean era weaponry. That is the difference between someone likeyourself that lives on the GI Joe Real American Hero belief system, and folks that see the world as it is (i.e. they can size up their opponents with great efficacy):

"However, Bin Laden was so adept at hiding that the CIA admit to admiring his commitment, having rejected the suspicious-looking trappings of bodyguards and vehicles.

According to Pakistan security officials, the al Qaeda leader spent
The claims were made by the terrorist leader's wife, who apparently told interrogators that she and her husband had not left the same room for the past half a decade

'You’ve got to give him credit for his tradecraft,' a former senior CIA official who played a leading role in the manhunt told The Washington Post."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nd-MONTHS.html


Yet, you get pumped up when folks on here that are unrepresentative of the rural masses pump you up and convince you that you are fighting Cobra Commander.

Bottom line Matt: Since you appear to grasp things through movie talk, the way that the masses generally see you is the way that the Scottish folks saw Edward Longshanks and the British regiments occupying Scotland in the movie Braveheart. Watch it again and think about whether the locals in this video see you as Edward Longshenks or as Wallace? Then ask yourself whether the locals see Mr. Bin Ladin as Long Shanks or Wallace:

http://english.aljazeera.net/video/a...315358960.html

Yep, Wallace was brutal when he sacked English cities (executing his own 9/11s on British Soil), but the Scots could care less... they were generally mad and fighting an insurgency because of POLICIES that the British executed on their soil that were denigrating and involved propping up tyrant nobles.

So go ahead and "hate the soil" I walk on all you want... because it just means you are no better than the pharisees that "hated the soil" that someone far greater than I walked on. Why? Simply because truth is hard to swallow.

PS. By the masses, Toramana and his gang are generally seen as the Scottish nobles that betrayed the popular sentiment... hopefully that should help you out in answering the questions above!

[ScimitarXEdge]

You give me a break. You are trash that come on these forums seeking the continuance of opression of the Afghan people and speak so kind words of the Taliban. I despise you and the soil you walk on.

Talk about the pot calling kettle black; you guys wilfully funded Pakistan, knowing fully sending suicide bombers and then going down using scorched earth policies putting Afghans in harmsway to get attackers rather than being real men and getting tactical teams to put their lives on the lines to route out attackers; which implicates intentional use of indiscriminate killing and then you act as if you despise people who speaking well of the Talibam

the Taliban are doing the **** they do because of you; you're the problem if you really cared, you'd leave. But really this isn't about liberating Afghanistan, it's about maintaining Hegemony and trying to thwart any thing which would weaken it. It's all selfish conquest disguised as humanitarianism.

I hope you do take out the Taliban; but also die a horrible death in the process. the Taliban being bad doesnt make you the good guys, it makes you the bad guys who hate the other bad guys.