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So should we ignore all of them since their are "millions of videos". Pakistani Army is a conventional army, and must follow rules. Geneva accords makes it clear that you cannot execute people without trial.Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post^ There are millions of videos
They are acting worse then a Guerilla Insurgent group. Pak Army= Dajjals left nut.
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we definitely have a communication breakdown here. have you ever seen me support violence against anyone so far on this forum? you are annoying me now!Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post^ Faye, I gave you that just because of that PM
All that I suggested was written about the same situation of Swat.. The same videos already shared by GOE a million times and discussed on this forum
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Who is making the video? Let's agree that it's not fake and it's cent percent healthy
Who are these people the Army is beating? This is the first question that must come to your mind? As Army was not free enough just to catch a guy walking on the street and start beating him in such a way. These were the people who were supporting Talibans when they occupied Swat and when Army went there, ISPR distributed their numbers among the local people of Swat and encouraged them to report against those people who were with Talibans helping them and encouraging them. And many people were interrogated in such a way to get information about the militants.
Now you may ask that why were they not presented in front of a court? That was not possible, as the Army was in a war zone and that is a time consuming process. In a war zone you need quick information against the enemy.
Third and final, If the militants were right and Army was wrong, Who were the people dancing after the Army freed Swat from the militants? Were those people not from Swat now don't say that they were all brain washed people :p
Fourth you might say that this is very sick and not a human friendly behavior. Faye, don't gimme that, Have you seen the videos of Talibans killing the real innocent people of Swat? Have you seen the video of that 17 year old kid beating a white beard elder gentelman in Mingora? So the culprits deserved this punishment and I must say far worst than this !!
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Originally posted by faye View Postwe definitely have a communication breakdown here. have you ever seen me support violence against anyone so far on this forum? you are annoying me now!
No, I didn't. So where I said you are supporting violence Faye? You are not grabbing the point my dear. All I am saying is that these people were involved in worst brutal killing and torturing of the common civilian and it's the way the Army would have been able to get instant information about their fellows !! Some times violence must be used to establish peace and that's exactly what Army did !!yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!
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The same point used to be used by the so called Taliban. It means you are not less than them a single point. Both are extremists and illegal killers, the only difference is the ideology. LOLOriginally posted by Shehbaz Khan View PostSome times violence must be used to establish peace and that's exactly what Army did !!
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I answered your excuses for them in my post. Many are known locals and have been "taken care of." Trust me... they were known locals pakhtuns born of the soil.....Originally posted by emkhan View Postthey were ISI and army men who butchered people.From the creator of www.pakhtun.com and its web forum Da Pukhtano Majlas the complete Pakhtun website!!!
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Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View PostThese are the same criminals who were caught or arrested when Swatians themselves notified the authorities about them in their neighborhoods.
The Swatians here would confirm that there were Telephone numbers given to the people by the army to call those numbers and identify the so called Talibans fighters and then of course such interrogation took place.
I am not sure if you guys have seen those Talibans distributed videos where they were beheading people and shooting, killing, maiming "real" innocent people just because they did not want to join them or were not approving their actions, but if you see those videos, they are much more cruel than this simple beating to find out the deep network of criminal TTP.
The TTP used to drill, cut, behead, maim and put zlive soldiers in threshers, and do you think Army (that understand only one language) would forget all that?
The problem here is, few opportunistic *******s are cashing in on this video to flame ethnic problems, thats it. Nothing more nothing less. Otherwise these are the same people who were saying before, why Army is not doing much against the Talibans. Bloody Hypocrites.
Haven't you guys seen the videos in which small kids like of about 15years used to kick men with white beard in main Mingavora Bazar? Anybody who creates menace in Muslim lands have no room for mercy, specially the munafiqeen. These people are munafiqeen, and they deserve the worst, here and hereafter.
Swatis helped them in first place, in fact they helped them till the last moment. These are the "baqayajaat".
Besides, have you seen TTPs distributed videos? In it, there are very old people killing those who did not approve
THANK YOU!!!!! FINALLY someone who has been through it all like our families... while others live in lala land trying to defend their heros the infidel/hypocritic so-called champions of Islam the talibs...From the creator of www.pakhtun.com and its web forum Da Pukhtano Majlas the complete Pakhtun website!!!
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