Phatans on the orders of poonjas dishonouring Pukhtane in Swat

[Shehbaz Khan]

man, that is disgusting. can't watch too much of it. what is he saying GOE?

Faye, this is just one side of the story my dear, search for the same video it's discussed, I will try my level best to write again for you !!

[Shehbaz Khan]

These are the same criminals who were caught or arrested when Swatians themselves notified the authorities about them in their neighborhoods.

The Swatians here would confirm that there were Telephone numbers given to the people by the army to call those numbers and identify the so called Talibans fighters and then of course such interrogation took place.

I am not sure if you guys have seen those Talibans distributed videos where they were beheading people and shooting, killing, maiming "real" innocent people just because they did not want to join them or were not approving their actions, but if you see those videos, they are much more cruel than this simple beating to find out the deep network of criminal TTP.

The TTP used to drill, cut, behead, maim and put zlive soldiers in threshers, and do you think Army (that understand only one language) would forget all that?

The problem here is, few opportunistic *******s are cashing in on this video to flame ethnic problems, thats it. Nothing more nothing less. Otherwise these are the same people who were saying before, why Army is not doing much against the Talibans. Bloody Hypocrites.

Haven't you guys seen the videos in which small kids like of about 15years used to kick men with white beard in main Mingavora Bazar? Anybody who creates menace in Muslim lands have no room for mercy, specially the munafiqeen. These people are munafiqeen, and they deserve the worst, here and hereafter.

Swatis helped them in first place, in fact they helped them till the last moment. These are the "baqayajaat".

Besides, have you seen TTPs distributed videos? In it, there are very old people killing those who did not approve

[Shehbaz Khan]

Faye Have a look at the following link

http://www.pashtunforums.com/political-talk-11/analysis-situation-swat-9166/

[Shehbaz Khan]

Faye the guy who commented the following is from Swat

http://www.pashtunforums.com/political-talk-11/analysis-situation-swat-9166/

[faye]

shebaz we don't actually know if this guy in the video is one of these culprits or do you?

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

Shahbaz Khana, graveyard does not represent the real nationalists who oppose Pakistan. He even hate us. He hates everybody and suffers from this inner-belief that he is the first pashtun born on this planet.

Even though you love Napakistan/Pakistan, I would never consider you a Non-Pashtun for thinking like that, but I prefer to consider you a confused one.

A Pashtun is a Pashtun, Ideology does not determine one.

[Shehbaz Khan]

shebaz we don't actually know if this guy in the video is one of these culprits or do you?

The Swatians (The people of Swat can confirm you on that). Plus, neither can you prove that he was innocent

Have a good day

[Shehbaz Khan]

Shahbaz Khana, graveyard does not represent the real nationalists who oppose Pakistan. He even hate us. He hates everybody and suffers from this inner-belief that he is the first pashtun born on this planet.

I never asked you about him :p

Even though you love Napakistan/Pakistan, I would never consider you a Non-Pashtun for thinking like that, but I prefer to consider you a confused one.

OK, so is this about the topic, I guess NO =P I respect your views though, we need to create an enviroment of co-existance Living with people who may not agree with us

A Pashtun is a Pashtun, Ideology does not determine one.

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

I never asked you about him :p


OK, so is this about the topic, I guess NO =P I respect your views though, we need to create an enviroment of co-existance Living with people who may not agree with us

I never intended to tell you about him, I just wanted to defend Nationalists who have been hijacked by such people. I hate ISI stooges just as much as he does, but he loves the same stooges who kill Pashtuns for the ISI.

[graveyardofempires]

Shahbaz Khana, graveyard does not represent the real nationalists who oppose Pakistan. He even hate us. He hates everybody and suffers from this inner-belief that he is the first pashtun born on this planet.

Even though you love Napakistan/Pakistan, I would never consider you a Non-Pashtun for thinking like that, but I prefer to consider you a confused one.

A Pashtun is a Pashtun, Ideology does not determine one.

there you go showing your true intentions

i never said i hated nationalists matter of fact i support both nationalist parties in pukhtnkhwa
on the other hand you are an extreme minority who thinks we shoudl all just integrate according to your wishes.

good luck with your new paki friends my true pashtun friend.

[graveyardofempires]

GOE: How many times you have discussed this with me and how many times you ran on your feet while we were discussing Swat? So you better stop posting the same stuff again and again!!

untill justice is done this will eb discussed.

on the other hand you are saying these people are criminals.

a true phatan who will blame a rape victim if she is raped by napak fauj.

[emkhan]

My mothers uncle was killed by the army in Swat, and i know for sure he wasnt taliban

True and the other hand, army have released a large number of people who were associated to the so called Taliban. They were freed for money. That money goes in those army officers' pockets and no one can ask them, under which law are you doing this ?
army and others all the time boast about law and constitution but when it comes to them then they don't follow a single law of the country.

[faye]

The Swatians (The people of Swat can confirm you on that). Plus, neither can you prove that he was innocent

Have a good day

don't give me "have a good day" bs, if you are irritated that i don't automatically agree with you, please. it is very disingenuous.
so what has all of what you suggested to read got to do with the guys in the video. are you judging the victim in it because of his looks or from what is being said? did he confess?

[Shehbaz Khan]

My mothers uncle was killed by the army in Swat, and i know for sure he wasnt taliban

In War Zones, innocents are killed. In Pakhto we say 'Lwando sara och swazi'
I never said that whatever Army did was 100% correct, but yes I am defending the Army action against the criminals no matter how much brutal is that. If you will search for the older discussion on the vary same topic my point of view was

If these people were the culprits, than whatever the Army did is correct if they are the innocents than these soldiers needs to be punished in the same way !!

You prove it to me that these were the innocent ones I will agree with you

[Shehbaz Khan]

^ Faye, I gave you that just because of that PM

All that I suggested was written about the same situation of Swat.. The same videos already shared by GOE a million times and discussed on this forum

First of all
Who is making the video? Let's agree that it's not fake and it's cent percent healthy

Who are these people the Army is beating? This is the first question that must come to your mind? As Army was not free enough just to catch a guy walking on the street and start beating him in such a way. These were the people who were supporting Talibans when they occupied Swat and when Army went there, ISPR distributed their numbers among the local people of Swat and encouraged them to report against those people who were with Talibans helping them and encouraging them. And many people were interrogated in such a way to get information about the militants.

Now you may ask that why were they not presented in front of a court? That was not possible, as the Army was in a war zone and that is a time consuming process. In a war zone you need quick information against the enemy.

Third and final, If the militants were right and Army was wrong, Who were the people dancing after the Army freed Swat from the militants? Were those people not from Swat now don't say that they were all brain washed people :p

Fourth you might say that this is very sick and not a human friendly behavior. Faye, don't gimme that, Have you seen the videos of Talibans killing the real innocent people of Swat? Have you seen the video of that 17 year old kid beating a white beard elder gentelman in Mingora? So the culprits deserved this punishment and I must say far worst than this !!