afghans elders want to bury osama in afg !!

[ScimitarXEdge]

FakePashtunNationalist

So it was better for Mongol hordes to slaughter Afghans in scores and practically decimate them?? Even though in comparison suicide attacks have not even made a .00001% difference in the Population of Pashtuns? (and I'm 100% against suicide attacks because they're immoral)

You're revealing that your true allegience is against Pashtuns. way to expose yourself.

there are about 50 Million Pashtuns, don't worry a few Talib and AlQaeda nutjobs aren't affecting the balance

The Depleted Uranium you cheered for as Pashtun children started dying from radiation poisoning is a much more damaging matter.

[ScimitarXEdge]

According to Jonathan Steele of The Guardian, up to 20,000 Afghans may have died as a consequence of the first four months of U.S. airstrikes on Afghanistan

[MDresden]

Again...you have someone else answering for someone else. You just fell flat on your face.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Again...you have someone else answering for someone else. You just fell flat on your face.

It must shatter your self esteem that America's illusion of portraying itself as some heroic force in the world is exposed as a farce.

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

Mdresden, you must know that whenever Taliban attack the troops, from where do they do it? I bet Mr Edge can educate us on how its justified for Taliban to hide in Civilian homes but when Nato responds Civilians get killed in Cross-fire, Why doesnt the Taliban leadership or its supporters moan over the cruelty of their soldiers?

[MDresden]

According to Jonathan Steele of The Guardian, up to 20,000 Afghans may have died as a consequence of the first four months of U.S. airstrikes on Afghanistan

The number goes down...did some google searches and found no results. How can someone say "may" or "up to"? Hard to understand that...because who's to say how many people live in a farm region of Afghanistan or one of the tribal regions where there is no internet access or form of government ID?

[MDresden]

True, but when the TB hide in homes, they often do forecfully I'm quite sure.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Mdresden, you must know that whenever Taliban attack the troops, from where do they do it? I bet Mr Edge can educate us on how its justified for Taliban to hide in Civilian homes but when Nato responds Civilians get killed in Cross-fire, Why doesnt the Taliban leadership or its supporters moan over the cruelty of their soldiers?

I dont even support the Taliban; why would I justify their actions?

Why do you persistently attempt to associate with me with something I have numerous times disavowed any support for?

Most of the people who fight NATO/US are not Taliban but normal civilians; hence why you see civilians fighting in their homes. and labeled Taliban

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

I have seen it with my own eyes, and the died civilians too. They exploit the Civilian areas to gather support for their cause, they know the locals are living under poverty and emotional due to decades of war. Its a crafty tactic.

Look Mr edge, the Americans reduced the size of its Missles attached to their drones, has the Taliban ever reduced the size of the explosive belts when they head off to do a Hamid gully?

[Pashtun_Ultranationalist]

I dont even support the Taliban; why would I justify their actions?

Why do you persistently attempt to associate with me with something I have numerous times disavowed any support for?

Most of the people who fight NATO/US are not Taliban but normal civilians; hence why you see civilians fighting in their homes. and labeled Taliban

People like you always say that. You are of the same sort. and you know this very well.

[ScimitarXEdge]

True, but when the TB hide in homes, they often do forecfully I'm quite sure.

This isn't accurate; Taliban themselves are not a military organization, they're a militia, which is generally people who come from villages or towns.

Taliban have many tribal links so tribal elders who have connections to members of the Taliban welcome or shelter the Taliban not because they support their ideology but because Tribal relations.

Many of the insurgents are not actually ideologically Taliban; but feel that at least the Taliban are locals and Americans are foreigners pushing themselves into their country, so they join the fight.

This whole fantasy that Americans create of Taliban forcefully entering homes is merely mythology to legitimize themselves.

[ScimitarXEdge]

lol many Taliban would consider Scmitar a kafir because he is muttazilla, haha

If they knew what a Mu'tazillah was, most of them are not religiously learned and can't read anyways.

[ScimitarXEdge]

People like you always say that. You are of the same sort. and you know this very well.

People like me always say that? So you're levying a conspiracy theory against me?

Thought so .....that defeats your whole argument.

[MDresden]

It must shatter your self esteem that America's illusion of portraying itself as some heroic force in the world is exposed as a farce.

Let's piece this apart for a moment.

America's illusion of portraying itself

If we ever stated something as an illusion...I'm there would need to be someone to answer to. An illusion is something portrayed as something else. 99.9% of the time we attack after being attacked...essentially defending ourselves.

as some heroic force in the world

So you admit our intentions are of a good nature...if not you wouldn't use such a word as "heroic." Is there a certain act or series of actions you deem that "may" be "heroic?" Or is this another umbrella term you used?

is exposed as a farce

So these actions that can be reasonably deemed as "heroic" are somehow exposed as a joke or farce? Which action or heroic thing that we have done is a joke or farce? If you are so wishy-washy on defintions of "farce" and "heroic" that may say something about you.

[MDresden]

People like me always say that? So you're levying a conspiracy theory against me?

Thought so .....that defeats your whole argument.

So fast are you to force someone to say something on someone else's actions that when the ball is in your court you call a "timeout?" Really? This is preposterous.