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  • U.S. Afghan strategic pact on the spin?

    Sovereignty core term for US strategic ties: Spanta

    by Abasin Zaheer on 4 May, 2011 - 19:31

    KABUL (PAN): Afghanistan has identified respect for its sovereignty one of the key conditions presented to the US as part of a proposed strategic cooperation agreement, a presidential advisor said on Wednesday.

    "Afghanistan wants to be independent in all its affairs and the US will have to address the security problem by providing training and equipment to Afghan forces," National Security Advisor Rangin Dadfar Spanta told lawmakers.

    Spanta was summoned by the Wolesi Jirga, lower house, along with ForeignMinister Zalmay Rassoul to brief legislators on the draft strategic agreement, which President Hamid Karzai says has be decided by Afghans.
    Karzai has said restoration of peace and security in Afghanistan was a major condition of his government. He has also called for taking into consideration the concerns of Afghanistan's neighbours.

    Spanta said the draft agreement, under review over the past one month, would be handed to the US soon. The former foreign minister listed the country's development, use of 80 percent of foreign aid by the government and regional cooperation as some of the conditions the government had set.

    He also stressed the need for US assistance to Afghanistan and increased contacts between parliaments of the two countries. He underlined Afghanistan's complete independence in political, prison, defence, economic and other affairs.

    The arrest of suspected militants and house searches should be Afghan-led, Spanta said, adding the US had pledged $11 million in assistance for the current year and $13.13 million over the next two years for capacity-building of Afghan forces.

    Spanta said Afghanistan wanted to have relations with strong allies who could help it get rid of terrorism, enforce the supremacy of law and develop the country economically. "Weak politics cannot help us achieve these targets."

    On US permanent military bases, the presidential advisor said they had not been provided any request in writing, but the issue had been informally and occasionally discussed.

    He said the government had observations about the proposal, which should be approved by Parliament. He said China, India, Pakistan and Russia had expressed their concerns over the establishment of such bases.

    In order to address the concerns of neighbouring countries, Spanta said, Afghanistan planned to arrange a conference.

    For his part, Zalmay Rassoul said the strategic cooperation agreement should be aimed at brining peace and stability to the country, instead of further aggravating the security situation.

    He said Afghanistan wanted to take economic advantages of the agreement. "We are trying to take into confidence our neighbours," the foreign minister continued.

    Earlier, some lawmakers said the jirga to be convened to decide on the strategic agreement should be in line with the Afghan constitution.

    But Spanta explained Karzai had not indicated convening a Loya Jirga, as enshrined in the constitution. He said the assembly would be called to give suggestions to the president on the agreement.

    A lawmaker from Kapisa province, Mohammad Iqbal Sapi, asked what would happen if neighbouring counties did not agree to US bases in Afghanistan.

    Another MP from Baghlan, Obaidullah, asked what guarantee the Afghan government had that strategic relations would not remain confined to paperwork.

    A representative from western Herat province, Mohammad Rafiq Shaheer, said they should not care about neighbouring countries in concluding the agreement. "We have been compelled by our neighbours to have such relations with the US."

    Spanta informed the house that an international conference on Afghanistan was scheduled to take place in Germany on December 4. He said the conference agenda was being prepared by the Afghan government.

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    Strategic agreement between Afghanistan and the US is beneficial to the country, Head of National Security Council said on Wednesday.

    Head of National Security Council Rangin Dadfar Spanta said Afghan side has submitted some preconditions to the US side before the agreement is sealed between the two nations.

    Speaking at the parliament Afghan Foreign Minister highlighted that agreement would not only focus on the fight against insurgency, but construction of economy fundamentals of the country is one of the key articles in the pact.

    Mr Spanta said preconditions in the agreement are consisted of training and equipment of Afghan security forces, channelling 80 percent of international funds through Afghan government and regional cooperation in counterinsurgency fight.

    Mr Spanta pointing to neighbouring countries said if they are against Afghan-US agreement they should stop deploying bomb makers and insurgents to Afghanistan.

    "In the near future President Karzai will hold a conference with regional countries to expose the perception of Afghanistan from the agreement and to reassure them that the agreement would not threaten our neighbours," Mr Spanta said.

    Foreign Minister Zalmai Rasoul said: "It's important that we do not look at it just from the perspective of security. Economy is a pivotal part of it so that our necessary fundamentals are built."

    Some lawmakers are doubtful about the efficacy of traditional gatherings in resolving national issues. A traditional gathering is due to open soon to discuss Afghan-US agreement and its role in regional security.

    "Ambiguous terms like traditional Loya Jirga could not be used to decide on strategic issues that will have impacts on the country for a century," Naheed Farid, an Afghan MP representing Herat, said.

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    • #3
      I think some sort of strategic pact will be definitely signed. It is a must.

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      • #4
        this guy seems to be very frustrated and in panic lol

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        • #5
          And who is that ghundal?

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          • #6
            Spanta.

            I have to say this statement was hilarious.

            Ambiguous terms like traditional Loya Jirga could not be used to decide on strategic issues that will have impacts on the country for a century," by Naheed Farid

            statements which are all meaningless.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Timbaktu
              We shouldn't put all our eggs in one basket, energy deals with China are a must.
              What energy deals are you talking about plaease? It is not putting eggs in one basket. I can't speculate what this pact will entail, but more than any strategic goal in my view for the U.S. is stablizing Afghanistan right now. I think what ever will be signed will revolve around that. In my view that in itself will parlay most of the U.S. strategic goals in the region - not necessarily militaristic goals i.e. having permanent bases etc. I don't know why they floated the idea, when they new better than that it will be met with hostility from within in Afghanistan and the region.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ghundal View Post
                Spanta.

                I have to say this statement was hilarious.

                Ambiguous terms like traditional Loya Jirga could not be used to decide on strategic issues that will have impacts on the country for a century," by Naheed Farid

                statements which are all meaningless.
                Well ghundal, she is right according to the Afghan constitution. That right is parliamant's which included representatives from all over Afghanistan not just Pashtun tribes.

                There are two Loya Jirgas, one a traditional and consultative, like the one held in regards to dialogue with Taliban and the other that is convened on supreme and imminent national issues i.e. war etc. and initially as raised the issue of permenent base can also fall in that category too, but even with that parliamant also has the say. There is some technical problem with that as it has to consist of members of provincial councils and there is something wrong with that.. I need to find out.

                Sorry for not being able to explain the mechanism properly.

                Any way, now Karzai will convene the consultative Jirga and then will let the parliamant to have the last say. Intitially the apprehension was about permanent bases and now that idea is droped. That was most probably a hoax and I don't know why the Americans floated the idea when they knew better as I mentioned early. Now it is just strategic pact.
                Last edited by ComradePashtun; 05-04-2011, 06:50 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Timbaktu
                  The gas and oil deal and also Ainak copper mine and other mines. Afghanistan is full of natural resources. Those mountains are full of minerals. China is our neighbour and will overtake USA in a decade or so. Involving China would be wise, USA can't be trusted, they might leave suddenly like last time.
                  First Afghanistan has minerals in abundance not oil and gas although there are significat reserves of the later which can be sold within the immediate region or can be exploited for internal consumption. The already have the Aynak mine.

                  I don't agree with the U.S. "might suddenly" leave. Well they have to eventually, but no other can country can fill their place in terms of assistance we can get from them which is too too important for our stability.

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                  • #10
                    they've recently found new oil deposits in afghanistan, comrade.

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                    • #11
                      Recently when and where, Faye? Can you provide any information please.

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                      • #12
                        just google afghanistans new oil discovery. i heard it on the news but there are articles there.

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                        • #13
                          it was last year but a good find.

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                          • #14
                            Ok, so what was your point then?

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                            • #15
                              oops, sorry. thought you had said they didn't have any. read you comment too quickly.

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