NATO should now leave afghanistan: Pakistani media

[khyaal]

All those who watch Pakistani tv channels might have seen that Pakistani establishment has launched a campaign through these channels that since Osama bin Laden is dead, NATO forces should immediately leave afghanistan now. The chorus is sung by Dawn news tv, Geo tv, Express tv, Dunya tv, Waqt tv, Aaj tv, Express tv etc. Pakistan still seems to be more interested in retaining its control over afghanistan than relinquishing its support for regional terrorism, a tool which it has so far used for extending its hegemonic agenda.

[ComradePashtun]

Thanks for letting us now, Khyal Saib - as always - appreciated.

[pir_Rokhan]

Even in the International Pashto Peace Conference held in Nishtar Hall Peshawar last month, the Pakistani establishment tried to include the same statement of NATO forces' withdrawal into the joint resolution. Thanx to Mukhtar Yousafzai of PKMAP, who stood, objected and considered it an interference into the affairs of a sovereign country which is on the road to stability due to the presence of NATO forces.

I would suggest that UN should send its peace keeping forces to FATA and Baluchistan to stop the innocent killing of Pashtuns/Baluchis there by Pakistani forces. This will also help to have a check on the facilitation and harboring of terrorists in NWA and other agencies. It will be naive to expect any good from the Pakistani forces whether they are on in form or another in the Pashtuns areas. The same is the plea of the Baluch leaders regarding the target killing and mass murder of Baluchis just because they are fighting for their right of self determination and freedom.

[Nokia_Apridy]

No taso ya Da zan sra satay ............ka sanga Khyal jana ?...

Lag dar ma khwakh shwey di............

[khyaal]

I would suggest that UN should send its peace keeping forces to FATA and Baluchistan to stop the innocent killing of Pashtuns/Baluchis there by Pakistani forces. This will also help to have a check on the facilitation and harboring of terrorists in NWA and other agencies. It will be naive to expect any good from the Pakistani forces whether they are on in form or another in the Pashtuns areas. The same is the plea of the Baluch leaders regarding the target killing and mass murder of Baluchis just because they are fighting for their right of self determination and freedom.

This unnatural state is rapidly moving towards its logical end. Pakis crookedness and fakery can't remain for long now.

[Toramana]

Hahahaha ... Punjabis are exceptionally smart in finding themselves scapegoats for their actions and preserving their might by playing a cat and mouse game with whom it wants to milk using gullible folk e.g., the so-called Mujahids during Afghan jehad/fasad era...Yajoj majoj (Chinese) are standing strong by the side of its "all-weather" friend Pakistan (i.e., Punjab) side...Only days ago, China and Pakistan had held strategic dialogue...Read the response below by a Chinese state official when asked to comment on the role of Pakistan related to the terrorism after the Osama hunting episode....

"Beijing: In the face of severe criticism of Pakistan over the presence of Osama bin Laden on its soil, China today put up a strong defence of its close ally saying Islamabad has made important.....
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We respect, understand and support Pakistan's above position. China will continue to firmly support Pakistan's formulation and implementation of anti-terrorist strategies based on national conditions," she said "

Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/ch...rism-103166?cp

[faye]

pakistan is very busy at the moment, chumming up with iran, saudis, and chinese and afghanistan. very interesting, the plot thickens......

[ghundal]

[QUOTE=pir_Rokhan;429180]

I would suggest that UN should send its peace keeping forces to FATA and Baluchistan to stop the innocent killing of Pashtuns/Baluchis there by Pakistani forces. This will also help to have a check on the facilitation and harboring of terrorists in NWA and other agencies. It will be naive to expect any good from the Pakistani forces whether they are on in form or another in the Pashtuns areas. The same is the plea of the Baluch leaders regarding the target killing and mass murder of Baluchis just because they are fighting for their right of self determination and freedom.

You want more intervention? Pakistan has been with US-NATO, and you think they aren't the same? Pakistan is wheeling and dealing with the US-NATO. Latest episode is proof of such a close collaboration. There is no strategic game- no, this I think was a game of turning a war profit, once that no longer could happen, a reason was needed to leave with some measure of dignity (on the US part obviously), and Pakistan sold it.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Even in the International Pashto Peace Conference held in Nishtar Hall Peshawar last month, the Pakistani establishment tried to include the same statement of NATO forces' withdrawal into the joint resolution. Thanx to Mukhtar Yousafzai of PKMAP, who stood, objected and considered it an interference into the affairs of a sovereign country which is on the road to stability due to the presence of NATO forces.

I would suggest that UN should send its peace keeping forces to FATA and Baluchistan to stop the innocent killing of Pashtuns/Baluchis there by Pakistani forces. This will also help to have a check on the facilitation and harboring of terrorists in NWA and other agencies. It will be naive to expect any good from the Pakistani forces whether they are on in form or another in the Pashtuns areas. The same is the plea of the Baluch leaders regarding the target killing and mass murder of Baluchis just because they are fighting for their right of self determination and freedom.

Sorry brother, but this is nonsensical. The same NATO forces asked Pakistan to invade the regions in the first place. So you basically want to subject FATA to the same occupation policies in order to do the dirty work that ANP and PMAP and Mellat cannot do themselves. As I asked Toramana, Maseed, and others to do, instead of involving Americans and others, it is your collective duty to destabilize the Pakistani state through arms, not Bob, Tim, or Steve's. My recommendation remains that you find Mullah Omar next with each others help. The original claim that these guys were in FATA appears to be false. If the FATA people can kill 1000 Pakistani troops on their own, then I am sure they can handle their own autonomy.

[Toramana]

Sorry brother, but this is nonsensical. The same NATO forces asked Pakistan to invade the regions in the first place. So you basically want to subject FATA to the same occupation policies in order to do the dirty work that ANP and PMAP and Mellat cannot do themselves. As I asked Toramana, Maseed, and others to do, instead of involving Americans and others, it is your collective duty to destabilize the Pakistani state through arms, not Bob, Tim, or Steve's. My recommendation remains that you find Mullah Omar next with each others help. The original claim that these guys were in FATA appears to be false. If the FATA people can kill 1000 Pakistani troops on their own, then I am sure they can handle their own autonomy.

It makes me laugh seeing you display that sentence in your signature ...seems to me to be rooted in a kind of meganomaliac self-image---Anyhow, let the US, West, Pakistan, etc take out the cockroaches that once i.e., during the Afghan fasad/jehad they inflated into Islamist tigers and made believe that by beating the Russian bear, they will regain the khalafath glory....They were their i.e, CIA/ISI product and let them deal with them...

[ghundal]

It makes me laugh seeing you display that sentence in your signature ...seems to me to be rooted in a kind of meganomalic self-image---Anyhow, let the US, West, Pakistan, etc take out the cockroaches that once i.e., during the Afghan fasad/jehad they inflated into Islamist tigers and made believe that by beating the Russian bear, they will regain the khalafath glory....

Is this what you are supporting? It seems even your hero Najib predicted even the likes of you. Afghans have denied US what they wanted. There is no coincidence here. InshAllah, peace is coming to Afghanistan after this game between the US and Pak has come to an end. Afghans were caught between, but as the world is seeing now, have prevailed. A defeat sugar coated is still a defeat. History will call it a defeat.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

It makes me laugh seeing you display that sentence in your signature ...seems to me to be rooted in a kind of meganomalic self-image---Anyhow, let the US, West, Pakistan, etc take out the cockroaches that once i.e., during the Afghan fasad/jehad they inflated into Islamist tigers and made believe that by beating the Russian bear, they will regain the khalafath glory....

lol, if the signature offends you that much I will remove it. They were your own words though, not mine.

Regarding khilafaath, you are conflating aggressive goals with rather defensive ones. The Afghans fought to remove the Russians, not to erect Khilafaath. In fact, that Hekmetyaar, Sayaaf, etc refused to swear loyalty to Omar Hotak is proof enough of this.

[pir_Rokhan]

Sorry brother, but it is non sensical.
1- The same NATO forces asked Pakistan to invade the regions in the first place.

2- So you basically want to subject FATA to the same occupation policies in order to do the dirty work that ANP and PMAP and Mellat cannot do themselves.

3- As I asked Toramana, Maseed, and others to do, instead of involving Americans and others, it is your collective duty to destabilize the Pakistani state through arms, not Bob, Tim, or Steve's.

Everything is relative. What I said might sound sensical if you think by considering Afghanistan as the axis of interests instead of Pakistan as the nucleus of Islam and its army as the incharge. Coming to your points, I would opine that:

1- Do you think that by being asked by NATO the Paki forces would terminate their strategic assets which they are hiding in FATA [like UBL was being given protection right under their ass near PMA Kakool] to justify the killing of Pashtuns there and to infiltrate into Afghanistan...I would say it would be politically naive to think this about Pakis.

2- How can ANP or PKMAP or even other political parties do any political work when the Punjabi empire has made FATA a no man's land for civilians and fort of Islam against Muslim Afghanistan for the army? Neither the political parties nor the media is given access by the military to FATA.

3- I agree with what you proposed to destablise Pakistan [hence stabilise the region] however I differ in the methodology. We have to free ourselves as well as the Pashtun cheerleaders and slaves of Punjab from the clutches of tyrrany. It was in the pursuance of this same goal that we need to win the sympathies of the international community [represented by UN] so it could play their role in stopping the bloodshed of Pashtuns and Balochis. Seeking the sympathies of int’l community does not negate indigenous struggle to challenge the atrocities of a terrorist state like Pakistan. Any student of political science would agree that you cannot challenge a state with arms but by protests organised by a party which uses passive or active resistence as a tool for revolutionary struggle.

[khyaal]

Sorry brother, but this is nonsensical. The same NATO forces asked Pakistan to invade the regions in the first place.

The reason is simple. It was your ISI which provided safe haven to the Al Qaeda terrorists in FATA. These Al Qaeda terrorists slayed all those Pashtun(afghan) elders who rose against them. So it was obligatory for Paki security forces get Pashtun rid of the evil who were the official guests of your master, the ISI. But they are still letting them stay there thus keeping the local population hostage to the ISI-Al Qaeda nexus. Pakis agenda is obvious, to keep Afghanistan perpetually destabilized through Paki Proxies whom you call as Paki sponsord mujahideen.

So you basically want to subject FATA to the same occupation policies in order to do the dirty work that ANP and PMAP and Mellat cannot do themselves.

LOL. This is ridiculous! The people of FATA have already been subjugated since Pakistan's occupation of Afghan land. But after the arrival of NATO led ISAF forces the people of FATA have been handed over to a more vicious Pakistan's ISI sponsored Al Qaeda terrrorists.

As I asked Toramana, Maseed, and others to do, instead of involving Americans and others, it is your collective duty to destabilize the Pakistani state through arms, not Bob, Tim, or Steve's. My recommendation remains that you find Mullah Omar next with each others help. The original claim that these guys were in FATA appears to be false. If the FATA people can kill 1000 Pakistani troops on their own, then I am sure they can handle their own autonomy.

I don't know which world your are living in. The Azad Qabayel are no more Azad. The area(middle Pakhtunkhwa) which was previously controlled by Paki Political Agents who used to be the demigods, the Viceroy of the people of FATA have been replaced by ISI sponsored Al Qaeda terrorists.
The security personnels who are being killed in FATA are no other than Pashtun Khasadars and Para Military men.

The apparent clashes is just a hoax to dupe the world of a conflict between Al Qaeada and Paki Security forces which is not the case, and the long stay of Osama in comfortable mansion in Abbotabad is a sufficient proof of that.

[Michin Khel]

Khyal and pir rokhan want farangi occupation of FATA....astaghfirullah...qayamat ar nizdo sho