Did you support Pakistan's illegal act of aggression in their Swat operation?

[faye]

**** is not known to have intelligence dj.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

so were sufi muhamad and mullah radio working for army?

I am not entirely sure about Sufi since his movement started back in the 90s....mullah fazllulah and a lot under him at least then were their useful idiot tools. Dae na nor tsa na waemaa....ka manae nu stha khwakha daa.

@Faye, yeh ego boosters for him.

[graveyardofempires]

ok maybe his titles were kind of over the top,I think yes or no could do fine.
But than i think he a pashtun and if thats his raw opinion so be it.

[emkhan]

sufi muhammad and fazlullah were different. one's movement was for shariah muhammadi s.a.w and the other one was on isi's payroll.

[graveyardofempires]

sufi muhammad and fazlullah were different. one's movement was for shariah muhammadi s.a.w and the other one was on isi's payroll.

he was married to the daughter of sufi muhammad and they also got sufi released so how different are they?

[emkhan]

Actually sufi has genuine large support of the people of malakand division, his movement was non violent as a whole and now he has become so old so there was no point in keeping him in jail.
fazlulla was an agent of isi

[graveyardofempires]

ok

[ghundal]

bottom line is, regardless of all the so-called conspiracy which so far are all baseless, there is another reason why some here support Pakistani army activity against their own people. I mean you have Toramana the other day suggesting that people of Waziristan attacked Pakistan Army on Pakistan's orders, and then he himself saying is this too far of a conspiracy.


Point Im trying to make, whoever supports operations and wars that result in deaths of our people (who are Muslim, Afghan, or Pashtun) is a traitor. Look in the past, at good role models who do not tolerate even one amongst their people being harmed.

That is our way, not to turn blind eyes to the suffering of our people in pursuit of some failed ideaology.


Like others have said, if you are so strong in your animosity for people who oppose foreigners in Afghanistan and Pakistan, (no I don't think they parade around with the Pakistani flag, and dance to Bhangra), then have the ANP/PMAP form their own army and defend the homeland from foreigners (whoever they may be). Till, then criticism of the only people that have taken initiative to defend their homeland is highly hypocritical.


I mean lets be honest for once. people just happend to disagree with their interpretation and implementation of Sharia rule.

Thats really what this is about now.

Or maybe in some of your minds, they wear the pakistani flag, and dance the Bhangra in celebration after they have dealt another defeat to the Pakistani army.

[ComradePashtun]

Ghundal's family is associated with ISI which makes a super traitor and dumb ******* that for the way his brain functions and the polls he makes. Never trust this ISI's illegitimate off-spring. I have brought to the fore his truelly unsavoury dubious character and have postulated how he is insincere poisonous "ghundal" when it comes to real Pashtun nation interests. Only uneducated and sentimental prats of no value fall and cheer him i.e. graver etc. I have clearly explicated for the true araaaaami character that he is. I have explained how an insincere and deceitful character that he is treads his devious path. Don't let him decieve you with his veiled simplistic nimble words of "Pashtun Ghirat", "Islam", "Jihad", "traitor" and "true son of Pashtun lion" and calling others "son of monkeys and snakes" etc. For truelly doom are those that fall in to his trap as a true brain-child or ISI, and what he has mastered as the product of the environment (ISI-istic) that he belongs to and can herd the decile minds and manipulate the fickle psyche of our simpleton Pashtuns in the form of Graveyard etc.

Go back to the thread where me and him had a rock-n-roll where I shook him hard that almost his devious mask was to tremeble to pieces. Unfortuantely I was busy at the time to reveal him naked before all the honourables in the forum.

A primary example was, when he anxious and worried about the development in Afghanistan agonisingly lamented what would happen to Waziristan if peace was to come to Afghanistan against the backdrop that Pakistan had created itself a monster and strategic threat in its outer plank. Guys with critical brain cells can pick up on what I am conveying here. All his devious rhetorics are designed as serving Pakistani strategic concern as is his sham role-model Imran Khan jockying to towards the sponsorship to his Panjabi masters' trojan horse for their nefarious designs. Don't listen to this son of a devil.


Seriously, out of what godly reason did he now decid to come under a new nick, and now as a poisonous spider that could yet again give us a clue to his sublimminal psyche? He tried to conceal himself, but thanks to our sharp minded Toranama the devil is revealed again.

What is also laughable is that he tries to pass as Afghan too, toormakhi Paki razeel shaitan. :-)

[emkhan]

The Agencies use you only. They have no humanity, no religion. Not only ISI but every agency does that and it runs on such rules. They always use you and always cheat you at the end of the day. So never believe them.

[ComradePashtun]

Well said, brother Emkhan, I sincerely respect you. Although I have felt disagreement toward you on many occassions when you have expressed your views, but I have always in me recognised your dececy and honesty. You talk the truth one way or the other.

[ComradePashtun]

About Waziristan, sorry not outer plank which is terming it iapproperiate (sorry), but I meant rear-end with a hot Paki chilli in it.

Swat was initially an ISI drama that went bad, in my honest opinion. I think many in here would agree with me.

[ComradePashtun]

Ghundal,

Never post again on my wall, I despise your gutts. Khbeesa!

[ghundal]

Ghundal,

Never post again on my wall, I despise your gutts. Khbeesa!

And likewise, you a servant of foreigners. Why do you keep following me around? Haven't I embarrassed you enough? Well, am about to do it again.

[ghundal]

He will not address this post, so I am moving my reply to LIES

[QUOTE=ComradePashtun;426669]

Ghundal's family is associated with ISI which makes a super traitor and dumb ******* that for the way his brain functions and the polls he makes.

This is true, I have two relatives who work for the ISI. I myself admitted this a long time ago. Not keeping any secrets. I have been honest and straightforward, unlike you. ANd for your information, nothing of what my relatives do is of concern. The ISI is an organization that employs many people who cant find employment just like the NDS. Maseed also has relatives in ISI. Its not even news. Pashtuns are treated like crap in Pakistan you fool. ANd lets take your argument here. Your saying the Afghan insurgency serves the ISI? now I will make a thread and embarrass you and put nail the coffin of all your false claims. AN also WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU SAYING HERE. SO WHAT? SO WHAT? lol What do you think of Afghans who are opposed to occupation?

Never trust this ISI's illegitimate off-spring. I have brought to the fore his truelly unsavoury dubious character and have postulated how he is insincere poisonous "ghundal" when it comes to real Pashtun nation interests.

No, unlike you I care for my people a lot. You will never understand the phases I have gone through this year. You will never understand that there were night I could not sleep. I confided in Baygham the issues I was going through, and he gave me some good advice which helped. Now, you have crossed the line here, and everyone will see you for what you exactly are. You from those who have always associated with elements that have wrought destruction on the Afghan people, whether it was association with the British, Russians, and now the US-NATO.

Only uneducated and sentimental prats of no value fall and cheer him i.e. graver etc. I have clearly explicated for the true araaaaami character that he is. I have explained how an insincere and deceitful character that he is treads his devious path. Don't let him decieve you with his veiled simplistic nimble words of "Pashtun Ghirat", "Islam", "Jihad", "traitor" and "true son of Pashtun lion" and calling others "son of monkeys and snakes" etc.

You are from amongst those I am describing and exposing. What Muslim, what Afghan, what Pashtuns wishes the contuation of warfare against his "own" people in Afghanistan, whether it be SOuth, East, or North?

For truelly doom are those that fall in to his trap as a true brain-child or ISI that he has mastered as the product of the environment that he belongs to and can herd the decile minds and psyche of our simpleton Pashtuns in the form of Graveyard etc.

Now you have come up with delusional hysterical, and might I add outright LIES against me because you failed to produce any evidence to back your claims up. Isnt this what they call NDS?

Go back to the thread we me and him had a rock-n-roll where I rocked him hard that I shook hard that almost his tremebling devious mask was to tremeble to pieces. Unfortuantely I was busy at the time to reveal him naked before all the honourables in the forum.

You have never shaken me hard. I a have never been intimidated by you. On the contrary, I have tried to understand where your coming from, and where that is is a dangerous path to Afghan slavery and doom. MashAllah, Afghans will not be doomed because the vast majority do not think like you.

A primary example was, when he anxious and worried about the development in Afghanistan agonisingly lamented what would happen to Waziristan if peace was to come to Afghanistan against the backdrop that Pakistan had created itself a monster and strategic threat in its outer plank. Guys with critical brain cells can pick up on what I am conveying here.

Astagfuriilah. This is the biggest LIE you have spewed out of your mouth. I never showed concern for Pakistan at all. On the contrary, when I first came here, I said I hoped to see Pashtun dominance in Pakistan. In other words, for Pashtuns to take Pakistan over. Show me that thread, and I will expose you for what you are, the biggest liar here.

All his devious rhetorics are designed as serving Pakistani strategic concern as is his sham role-model Imran Khan jockying to towards the sponsorship to his Panjabi masters' trojan horse. Don't listen to this son of a devil.

I still think Imran Khan is great. In fact, whoever is against this war of aggression against our people, and vocalizes it, I will say they are champions. I will never take the side of any one who promotes warfare on our people, and that would be people LIKE YOU.

Seriously, out of godly reason did he now decided to come under a new nick, and now as a poisonous spider that could yet again give us a clue to his sublimminal psyche? He tried to conceal himself, but thanks to our sharp minded Toranama the devil is revealed again.

This does not need to be addressed

What is also laughable is that he tries to pass as Afghan too, toormakhi Paki razeel shaitan. :-

I am thinking the same exact thing about you. Your life views, your morals are all one big JOKE. You say that there are DARK PARTS of war as if its ok, and should be acceptable. Tell that to someone who experienced the Kandahar offensive. Night raids, airstrikes, and what not should be accpeted. This is you. You can speak all the Pashto you want, but THERE IS NO AFGHAN WHO SUPPORTS THIS FAILED WAR, and this is what you and the Flat Earth Society does. Here, you have Pir Rokhan supporting NATO. You have Toramana and Khyaal supporting NATO US-NATO actions are resulting in the death of our people. ANd quit trying to spread fitna. Graveyard himself knows how many times I have bothered him in PM when I was concerned, when I was depressed. Baygham, himself knows the depression I went through. SO now, quit lying, this is what kufars do, and address my answer to your post and your claims