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  • ANP so called pashtun nationalist v Sindi nationalists

    I try to post in political talk but for some reason could,nt,,admin can take it there and kindly explain why i have to sign 10 to 15 times to post here,,,,,,,

    Now back to the real topic.

    Just towday ago the CM of punjab demanded that karachi should be a separete province from SIND.The brave and patriotic SINDIS(pp,jasqam etc) demanded an apology from Shah baz Sharif and even burned down the PML-N offices in karachi.
    JUST YESTERDAY the CM of SIND angrily responded to that and ask punjab should be divided to 9 provinces.Well done brave patriotic sindis.
    Now to the so called ANP pashtun nationalists or i should say ,,oppertunists,,,
    Hazara division is 50% pashtu speaking area,distt tor ghar,batagram,teh oghy,teh ghazi,pakhal valley is clear majority of pashtu speaking pashtuns,the khindko speaking make about 35% mainly in abot abad,haripore and half of mansehra.The remaining papulation are kohistanis etc.
    Even most the khindko speaking are of pashtun origin.

    The demand of khindko speaker for hazara province should be rejected by every,,,halali,,pashtun and also by the govt.
    Now here is the statment of asfandyar supporting the division of pashtun land,,,,,,,,,,,

    ANP not opposed to Hazara province: Asfandyar

    Drone attacks against Pakistan’s sovereignty , UN resolutions
    Islamabad —ANP President Asfandyar Wali Khan has said that his party was not opposed to the creation of Hazara Province as they consider the Saraiki region a separate identity from administrative point of view. Addressing a press conference here on Sunday, the ANP President demanded an end to drone attacks in the tribal areas describing them against UN resolutions and violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty. He said Pakistan is suffering from the drone attacks and his party always opposed them. He said the Americans and their allies came to Afghanistan through UN resolutions and by launching attacks outside Afghanistan, they are violating UN resolutions. He said there has been progress in relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan as a result of visit of Prime Minister Gilani and the two countries have agreed to resolve problems through dialogue.

    He said strongly criticized those political leaders who are threatening to stage sit ins questioning as to why they remained silent for five years. He said if they do not like the process of dialogue, they were free to say that openly. Asfandyar Wali Khan said the process of reconciliation is a good omen for the country and the Prime Minister has spoken of taking all the political parties into confidence and take their inputs about the new budget. He emphasized the need for implementation of the constitutional 8th amendment saying it was unanimously approved by all the political parties in the parliament. The ANP President said the militants are now left in FATA and they have been eliminated from Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa province. He said they are of the view that the problem of terrorism an be resolved through dialogue and the ANP government is ready to talk with any body who acceptstheir conditions. He said the first and foremost condition is acceptance of writ of the government, laying down of arms and not allowing their soil to be used by others. Asfandyar Wali Khan said that reopening of the Zulfikar Ali Bhutto case in the apex court is the right of PPP.

    He said removal of Zulfikar Mirza as Home Minister of Sindh was an internal matter of PPP. In reply to a question, the ANP leader said operation against target killers should be launched setting aside party considerations.

    He said any one involved in target killing must be apprehended and punished whether he belongs one party or the other. Announcing the launching of membership of ANP he said it would continue for three months and party elections would be held on 15th October, 2011.—INP
    http://www.pakobserver.net/201104/18...s.asp?id=87156

    This can be confirmed by other sources too.


    Mr asfandyar wali never in his life spoke for the greater pashtunkhwa province from chetral to bolan.His close links to paki establishment are well known.

    His party won the title of most carrupt province in pakistan for pashtuns,,,,TI,,REPORT,,.



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  • #2
    The true and honest pashtuns and supporters of bacha khan baba already no longer active on ANP politics.The party is asfand-hoti party .All oppertunists and anti-pashtun nationalists gathered making money.
    The creation of urdu university on pashtun soil is the example of how much love they have for hindos.



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    pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
    be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
    gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
    be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
    hamza baba
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    • #3
      Now watch these proud pashtuns of bafa,shinkyari of hazara celebrating pashtunkhwa and Mr asfand sold his gerat to punjabisNow wants to sell these pashtuns too.
      bafa

      YouTube - ANP Jashn-e-Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa AT BAFFA in HaZaRA PART 1.mp4

      shinkyari


      YouTube - ANP Jashn-e-Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa AT SHINKIARI in HaZaRa PART 1.mp4



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      be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
      gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
      be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
      hamza baba
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      • #4
        The proud and brave pashtuns of agror,oghy,hazara celebrate the bacha khan kaleeza.
        YouTube - ANP.Bacha Khan and Wali Khan Barsi Death Anniversary In OGHI ,MANSHERA,KHYBER PUKHTOONKHWA PART 1
        Bacha khan ,s grandson asfand ready to sell them to punjabis.



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        be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
        gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
        be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
        hamza baba
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        • #5
          The proud pashtuns of mashvani tribe in serikot area distt haripore hazara

          YouTube - Sirikot Politics Part-1


          the home mashwani pashtuns,sirikot,haripore,hazara

          YouTube - Sirikot valley /وادی سریکوٹ

          YouTube - Sirikot,Attan (dance-1)

          YouTube - Beauty of Sirikot


          mashvanis are the most nationalists pashtuns in the entire hazara.One should go to serikot and see all these red flags.They have great love for bacha khan but ANP ,s policies will soon change that forevere.



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          be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
          hamza baba
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          • #6
            brave heart sindis (which we call hindos) burnd down the offices of PML-N.
            Just cus shah baz demanded karachi to be separete from sind.


            Tuesday, April 26, 2011

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            PML-N office attacked in Karachi
            By Atif Raza

            KARACHI: Scores of activists from various nationalist parties on Monday attacked the regional office of Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) over the statement of Punjab chief minister on formation of a new province in Sindh.

            Dozens of activists from nationalist parties thronged the regional office of PML-N known as the Muslim League House at Karsaz and destroyed its furniture.

            On being informed, heavy contingents of police rushed to the spot and cordoned off the area. An FIR (81/11) has also been registered against unknown miscreants on the complaint of Ghulam Mustafa, PML-N secretary Saleem Zia under sections 147, 148, 149, 527 and 452 of Pakistan Penal Code. Subsequently, another hostile attack was witnessed at the restaurant of PML-N leader Sardar Rahim within the remits of Clifton town police. The emotionally charged activists gathered at the restaurant and smashed its furniture altogether.

            Sources informed that police have detained around 10 miscreants allegedly involved in the incidents.

            SP Clifton Tariq Dharejo, when contacted, confirmed four arrests and said two separate cases will be registered against miscreants on behalf of party members as well as of police.
            http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...6-4-2011_pg1_5



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            • #7
              toramana kaka,,,,your so called anp asfandpunjabyar is ready to sell pashtuns of hazara to punjab.Is he realy the follower of bach khan or Jinah?

              pashtu misal,,,about asfandpunjabyar wali khan,,,,,yaw sari tha chaa wail partog darna wobasam haga sari warta pa jawab/zawab ki woayal za e pakhpala/akhpal wobasam,,,,,,,,
              da da pukhtanu masharano hal de.



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              be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
              gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
              be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
              hamza baba
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              • #8
                Did you expect anything less from that imbecile?
                http://i29.tinypic.com/2a6j8jm.gif

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                • #9
                  Gadoonwala .........ANP is a Pakistani political party that believes in political struggle rather than acts of violence .......and constitutionaly you can't stop Hazarey waal from demanding a separte hazara province.......but what ANP wala insist is that Hazarey wal (Like ANP) should use the right way to achieve their goals they shouldn't use violent ways like burning shops and govt office etc.........if ANP have grabbed provincial rights as well name for their province, they have struggled for it for the last 50-60 years.........So infact Asfand is right in this case.......he also knew that they can't get enough majority in the parliament to make the Hazara province........
                  Na soz sho na saaz sho,
                  Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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                  • #10
                    1. There are conflicting reports about who attacked the PML-Q building, the media says it was the "Mohajir" nationalist MQM, others say it was Sindhi nationalists. It hasn't been established clearly.

                    2. The reason why the PML-N called for Karachi to be split from Sindh was a tit-for-tat counter-attack against the PPP which contains Sindhi nationalists.

                    For general readers, the PPP is Pakistan's ruling party and the only one with a truly national presence. It has support in Sindh and southern Punjab. However Punjab is ruled by the PML-N with its powerbase in northern Punjab. If southern Punjab breaks off from Punjab, it will become a PPP stronghold. This is turf-politics between the PPP and PML-Q, between Nawaz Sharif and Zardari.

                    3. So it is mainly a struggle between the PPP (with their many Sindhi supporters) and the northern Punjabi PML-N. Pashtuns are on the sideline.

                    Last year the PML-N supported the call for the secession of the Hazara division from Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa after Hazaras rose up against the renaming of the province. This time the PML-N has not called for that, instead focusing its fire power on its arch-enemy the PPP.

                    4. Unfortunately yes, the ANP is corrupt, extremely corrupt. Few people can have much respect for Asfandyar Wali.

                    5. Yes, the ANP has a very meek attitude towards politics, natural considering it is the party of the "Frontier Gandhi" and preaches non-violence (though it is involved in armed activity in Karachi).

                    However during the Hazara crisis, Hazara separatists accused the ANP of bringing in Pashtun policemen from Mardan and Kohat to fire against separatists.

                    6. It has its faults as well as its strengths including representing Pashtuns abroad e.g. in the UAE and Qatar, where it acts as a de facto semi-embassy for Pashtuns there.

                    ANP QATAR BY M Khaleel Orakzai 02 - YouTube[/URL]

                    sharjah ke de khyber pakhtunkhwa jashin ANP UAE part ( 4 ). - YouTube[/URL]

                    7. They have never had that much support in FATA where traditionally the tribals regarded Bacha Khan with suspicion and viewing any sort of Pashtunistan as a state with him as some sort of king, something unacceptable to the tribals who guard their freedom jealously. Anyway these tribals had been defeating the Pakistan army regularly before they themselves got sick of the murderous TTP. One of the main militant commanders is Maulana Nazvir who has the respect of tribals and if he ever turns against the Islamabad regime, then the regime is in serious trouble.

                    8. The ANP prevented the establishment of the Kalabagh dam.

                    9. They protested against fencing of the "Durrand line".

                    Anyway yes Asfandyar and Hoti are corrupt but there are pros and cons to the ANP, and on a political level there is no other nationalist alternative, though I personally like Dr Alam Mehsud who went out and created Aman Jirga.

                    dr. dyed alam mehsud - YouTube[/URL]

                    Anyway the ISI also has a gun to the head of the ANP leadership and has a history of killing Pashtun nationalists either directly or through its proxies e.g. the TTP.

                    True power to change things lies with the tribes, who for the time being are giving Pakistan a chance.
                    Last edited by Bengal_Tiger; 10-30-2011, 08:11 AM. Reason: Edit
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                    • #11
                      Bengal Tiger

                      In my opinion PKMAP is comparatively better ideological option than ANP. ANP due to being part of the system and power politics are making compromises which are not good for the Pashtuns in the long run. However Gadoonwal has a valid point.
                      Pir Rokhan

                      http://Pashtoonkhwa.blogspot.com

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                      • #12
                        Yes, the ANP definitely has its defects.

                        However on a very practical level, let us say a young Pashtun in Peshawar or Karachi cares about his heritage and Pashtun people and their rights, what other political party can he join other than the PMAP or ANP?

                        Many of us on this forum including myself are more comfortable financially, have seen more of the world and are supposedly "more educated" than the ordinary Pakhtoon struggling in Pakhtunkhwa, and they do not have the luxury of forming academic opinions on the merits and faults of different parties (no reference to you, we Bengalis are different in our culture and there is less innuendo in our talk).

                        1. What should people do instead of joining the ANP/PMAP? (Provided they realize neither of them are perfect, my friend is in the ANP and says the leadership is corrupt, but it is better he is part of it than doing nothing)

                        2. I have said real change will come from the tribals. The historian Ibn Khaldun spoke of the process where tough and hardened tribesmen or nomads would conquer more sedate city dwellers who would in turn transform into more passive urban people themselves only to be conquered by the same sort of people they themselves used to be.

                        In other words many people claim to be Pashtun and take pride in it, it is people like the tribals however who are the closest in lifestyle and values to the great Pakhtun conquerors of the past, the Lodhis, Ghilzais and others of yester year.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
                          Gadoonwala .........ANP is a Pakistani political party that believes in political struggle rather than acts of violence .......and constitutionaly you can't stop Hazarey waal from demanding a separte hazara province.......but what ANP wala insist is that Hazarey wal (Like ANP) should use the right way to achieve their goals they shouldn't use violent ways like burning shops and govt office etc.........if ANP have grabbed provincial rights as well name for their province, they have struggled for it for the last 50-60 years.........So infact Asfand is right in this case.......he also knew that they can't get enough majority in the parliament to make the Hazara province........
                          awti boti ma waya,,,,
                          you may have some personal interest in that pro punjabi party.
                          I never said that anp,,is not a paki party?
                          If it is a pashtun nationalist party then why are they supporting the division of pashtunkhwa?
                          the demand made by only khindko speaking hazariwal not by pashtuns.
                          After watching those videos you just shut up and serve your ,,baba,,,hoti,,.

                          ANP is fully exposed now.They want to divide to pashtuns by supporting more provinces to weaken their unity and mix them into punjabi papulation.
                          shame on anp and their supporters.


                          There was more clebration in hazara for the renaming of NWFP.Those khindkis in abot abad were few thugs.

                          I was reading the statement of ,,main iftekhar,,in aaj daily where he even support the DI kHAN TO BE PRAT OF SERIAKI PROVINCE.

                          Asfand along with his gang of thieves are taking orders from ,,GHQ,,.

                          AFTER RENAMING THE PROVINCE WHAT THEY DONE FOR PEOPLE?
                          CARRUPTIONS,,,,,,,


                          The demand for ,,malakand division,, to be a seperate province will come soon,,,,write in red,,,,.You will see these punjabi dalals/anp will also support that.

                          These evils/anp continue their anti pashtun policies.

                          like i said ,,a halali,,,pashtun will not support these punjabi boot lickers.



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                          pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                          be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                          gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                          be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                          hamza baba
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pir_Rokhan View Post
                            Bengal Tiger

                            In my opinion PKMAP is comparatively better ideological option than ANP. ANP due to being part of the system and power politics are making compromises which are not good for the Pashtuns in the long run. However Gadoonwal has a valid point.
                            wrora,the top ,,anp,,leaders are on ,,isi,,payroll.
                            .

                            what they have done for the pashtuns of karachi?
                            oneday they ask for an inquiry for the killing of pashtuns by MQM ,the next the ,,MQM,, pay check and problem solved and no inquiry.

                            from very close sources i know their evil idealogy.

                            you will see.They are playing a big dirty game against pashtuns.



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                            pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                            be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                            gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                            be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                            hamza baba
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
                              Just towday ago the CM of punjab demanded that karachi should be a separete province from SIND.The brave and patriotic SINDIS(pp,jasqam etc) demanded an apology from Shah baz Sharif and even burned down the PML-N offices in karachi.
                              JUST YESTERDAY the CM of SIND angrily responded to that and ask punjab should be divided to 9 provinces.Well done brave patriotic sindis.
                              Now to the so called ANP pashtun nationalists or i should say ,,oppertunists,,,
                              Hazara division is 50% pashtu speaking area,distt tor ghar,batagram,teh oghy,teh ghazi,pakhal valley is clear majority of pashtu speaking pashtuns,the khindko speaking make about 35% mainly in abot abad,haripore and half of mansehra.The remaining papulation are kohistanis etc.
                              Even most the khindko speaking are of pashtun origin.

                              The demand of khindko speaker for hazara province should be rejected by every,,,halali,,pashtun and also by the govt.
                              Now here is the statment of asfandyar supporting the division of pashtun land,,,,,,,,,,,


                              lol this is such an insignificant thing.

                              The ancient homeland of Pashtuns (through the Durrand Line) is already broken into different parts. KP, North Balochistan and Attock are under the federal authority of Islamabad (Punjab) so our homeland is already divided like a cake of Bombay Bakery. What's worse is that our ghairati Pashtana are supporting that division and foreign conquest of their homeland wholeheartedly - many of those dishonorable creatures lurk these very forums. So this Hazara problem is a small, insignificant matter.

                              We have proven with our support for that division of the ancient Pasutun homeland that we Pashtuns are pimps and our homeland Afghanistan is a ***** and everyone can have a piece of her. So who cares if they take Hazara Division away? We are pimps anyway, maybe there's something in it for us. FATA is under the direct authority of Islamabad (Punjab). We have given FATA to Punjabi bureaucrats and generals. Our brave and honorable Maseedaan and other Pashtana are subservient to a Punjabi grade 20 government official appointed by Islamabad. The KP government swears allegiance to Rawalpindi and Islamabad. So please don't talk about Hazara Division - they can keep it along with half of our homeland.
                              "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                              "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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