Toramana and the Secularized Imperialist Collaborators and avoiding posts/threads

[Michin Khel]

Bengali Tiger and Luffy; bicker elsewhere please

You are bickering against toramana, toramana is bickering against you .bengali tiger and me are bickering against each other....it is very meaningful thread.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Thank you Tormana.

I will not be posting on this thread anymore out of respect for Scimitar and his wishes, and this is his thread.

See you all later (on other threads).

[Roshina]

lol lol lol, khorai, that was so cute, khorai, lol!
LOVE it, DZJ!

[ScimitarXEdge]

although it's not my color, at least she delivered on her promise.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Actually Luffy; Toramana makes claims I want him to hold him accountable for things he claims by supporting it with solid evidence.

this in the real world isn't "bickering"

whining about who's bengali and who's a kamaya ....in a thread which has nothing to do with that ...is bickering.

[Michin Khel]

Actually Luffy; Toramana makes claims I want him to hold him accountable for things he claims by supporting it with solid evidence.

this in the real world isn't "bickering"

whining about who's bengali and who's a kamaya ....in a thread which has nothing to do with that ...is bickering.

I did'nt know meaning of bickering, have checked it now in dictionary.
Thread was about toramana, i agreed with you by clicking thanks button and then i added my views about toramana. And then bengali dude attacked me...lol
and then i responded.

[Michin Khel]

Bickering between me and bengali has provided chance for toramana to escape from you...sorry for that.

[ghundal]

Toramana, why are you not replying to Scimitar? This reveals you either don't know how to respond to him, or you have accepted his views.

[IamDZJ]

lol lol lol, khorai, that was so cute, khorai, lol!
LOVE it, DZJ!

i was all out of rat poison so i couldn't make the stew... figured i might as well get even some other how..that is the best i could do on a short notice.
"khorai"...LOL


aab e hayat, this is the 21th century. you are an educated man..why are you talking about "kamyaas"??? instead of still believing in pointless things like that, work on something positive and useful such as getting yourself some class.

[ghundal]

Toramana, please reply to Scimitar. Stop being scared. Scimitar has continued to destroy your false arguments, but you offer no words back.

[ghundal]

Bickering between me and bengali has provided chance for toramana to escape from you...sorry for that.

It seems Toramana is avoiding any talk. He supports drone attacks against the tribal people, and hates Imran Khan for opposing drone attacks.

Is this a person concerned with Pashtuns, or serving a failed US agenda?

[ScimitarXEdge]

This one is back too, don't say I never did any favors lol

[ghundal]

why cant toramana ever reply to anyone posts?

[Dildar]

The reason Afghanistan is the focus is because the Imperial Nexus directly militarily within Afghanistan; and their economy is military based thereby it would be crucial to encourage as much fragmentation of it as possible. Yemen and others can come later. If there was more direct military involvement in Yemen, we'd encourage the same thing there.

The way to do things is follow Sayyid Jamaluddin Al-Afghanis method. He has the right comprehensive plan.
Source:

Helo man, I am new to this forum and have very limited writing skills. Though I want to learn things and will ask questions if you dont mind.
I could not make a good sense from your above quoted sentences so please put some more light on it.

Do you mean the imperial nexus economy is based on military or that of Afg? and why it it would encourage as much fragmentation of Afg? Will this benifit the imperial nexus? Why not Pakistans or India's fragmentation should not benifit the said imperial nexus?

I know nothing about Sayyid Jamaluddin Afghani? So you think islamic modernism is the solution to countries like Afg and pakistan?

And what you mean by Ikhwanul Muslimoon?
Isn't this still divide mankind into 2 bigger parties one the Muslimoons and the other the non-muslimoon and that still there will be conflicts. And since the focus will concentrate on only two bigger divides of mankind, can lead to bigger wars and huge destruction like WW1&2. Instead the many divides on nationalistic fervors will divide mankind into many fractions and the nature of conflicts can be small due to small parties?

Isn't the name of the game is power???

[ScimitarXEdge]

Helo man, I am new to this forum and have very limited writing skills. Though I want to learn things and will ask questions if you dont mind.
I could not make a good sense from your above quoted sentences so please put some more light on it.

Do you mean the imperial nexus economy is based on military or that of Afg? and why it it would encourage as much fragmentation of Afg? Will this benifit the imperial nexus? Why not Pakistans or India's fragmentation should not benifit the said imperial nexus?

I know nothing about Sayyid Jamaluddin Afghani? So you think islamic modernism is the solution to countries like Afg and pakistan?

And what you mean by Ikhwanul Muslimoon?
Isn't this still divide mankind into 2 bigger parties one the Muslimoons and the other the non-muslimoon and that still there will be conflicts. And since the focus will concentrate on only two bigger divides of mankind, can lead to bigger wars and huge destruction like WW1&2. Instead the many divides on nationalistic fervors will divide mankind into many fractions and the nature of conflicts can be small due to small parties?

Isn't the name of the game is power???

Valid questions here's my response:

What I mean by fragmentation is to fragment their Hegemonic (Imperial) apparatuses, which can often take the form of military. Weaking hegemony

Islamic Modernism/Sayyid Jamaluddin Afghani- there are no quick and easy solutions, but there are solutions which can help make things quicker and easier. I feel that the general thesis of Sayyid Jamaluddin Afghani is correct. Namely

1.) Islamic Unity (Shi'a/Sunni and whatever other group, of all ethnicities and nationalities).create strong interdependence instead of competition to free Muslims from imperial control and societal deterioration due to imperialist culture becoming predominant.

2.) Reexamining Islamic Texts and understanding them to apply to problems relevant to current conditions and circumstances; not focusing on issues which are not immediately pressing

3.) Developing Technological and Scientific Innovation so we do not have to be reliant on capitalist products and can strengthen ourselves so we're self sufficient.

Ikhwan Al Muslimeen: is a movement, one of several which urge Muslims all over the world to put their foolish squabbles aside and work together for a common cause, Absolute Truth and Justice from the Source of Truth and Justice, God.

You strike an interesting argument, one that I have actually thought about before. Would galvanizing Muslims into becoming collaborative Muslim bloc lead to world destruction?

Well I think the premise is flawed, for two reasons, firstly Some might argue Capitalist societies are already a "bloc" of their own, so why are they entitled to run the show? or some might argue that they're split up into little nationalistic entities as well, so turning into a bloc would engender a massive world war.

But if you examine history During World War I and II there was no real "bloc" until Germany or whatever country started attacking all the others. So you can argue that already existing nation states are not anymore or less conflicting or devastating than a monolithic bloc. But also think of the cold war, they used Vietnam/korea/Afghanistan to fight as proxies but USA and the NATO Bloc never actually directly went to war with the Soviet BLOC.

What an Islamic "Bloc" will do is wane the Capitalist Bloc as a global force; and pressure the Capitalist Bloc into internal isolationism, so it can no longer try to manipulate world affairs in it's favor. This will reduce the chance of wars as militarily the Capitalist Bloc will be significantly reduced. The purpose of the Islamic Bloc is not Islamic Expansionism but Islamic Revivalism. If we have that we can have an exodus of Muslims back to Muslim countries and detoxify them from their addiction to capitalist brainwashings, rebuild and develop adequate infrastructures for healthy environment