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  • Pashtuns in Pakistan's Military

    The 11 chiefs of the Pakistan army, four have been Pashtuns (Generals Ayub Khan, Yahya Khan, Gul Hasan Khan and Waheed Kakar), leading the institution for a total of 18 years (Dawn, October 13).

    Two of them imposed martial law and remained presidents of Pakistan. Ayub Khan, the first Pakistani commander-in-chief of the army, remained at the helm of affairs for eight years as army chief (1951-58) and an additional 11 years as head of the country (1958-69) (Dawn, October 13).

    Ayub Khan also promoted himself to field marshal in 1965 and is credited with developing the army into one of the most resourceful and powerful institutions in Pakistan. If it is any indicator of his legacy, his hand-painted portrait can often be seen on the back of the trucks driving from one side of the country to the other—as the transport business overwhelming is in the hands of the Pashtuns.

    Within the ranks, Pashtuns are known for their marksmanship, courage and loyalty. Although there are no all-Pashtun regiments, and only one corps of the nine total is headquartered in NWFP, many important training centers for soldiers (Peshawar, Nowshera, Mardan) and the only military training academy for officers (Kakul) are located in the NWFP.

    High ranking Pushtun Officers:

    -Air Chief Marshal Abbas Khattak (Ex Chief Pakistan Air Force)
    -Major General Akbar Khan
    -Lieutenant General (retd) Sahabzada Yaqub Ali Khan Pakistans Top Diplomat During 80's after retirement.
    -General Ehsan ul Haq EX DG ISI, EX CJCOSC.
    -Lieutenant General Khwaja Mohammad Azhar Khan
    -General Abdul Hamid Khan EX COS
    -General Akhtar Abdur Rahman Ex DG ISI EX CJCOSC 4 Star General
    -Lt General Ali Kuli Khan EX Chief of General Staff
    -General Rahimuddin Khan Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee from 1984 until his retirement in 1987. longest-serving Governor of Balochistan
    -Major General Tariq Khan Inspector General FC
    -Lieutenant General Asad Durrani, a former head of the country's Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) agency
    -AC Muradk (PAF Pushtun officer)


    -Karnal Sher Khan (1970–1999) was a Pakistani Army officer and one of only 10 recipients of Pakistan's highest gallantry award, the Nishan-e-Haider. He was a Captain in the 12 Northern Light Infantry (NLI) and, previously in 27 Sindh Regiment of the Pakistan.








  • #2
    Yahya khan wasn`t pashtun, he was qizalbash. Ayub khan is a oppurtunist pashtun like his son. Whenever they need pashtuns, they are pashtun tareens. Now, when that son Gohar is a part of the hazara province movement, he forgot his pashto.
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    • #3
      But can he tell us what have these so called Pakistani officers done for Pashtuns besides living most probably in Punjab?

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      • #4
        LMaOOOOOOOO

        those aren't Pukhtuns wthh?



        What's next? Pervez Besharraf was also Pukhtun?

        Altaf Hussain is Also Pukhtun?


        oh my.....we have alot to teach you.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pekhawar View Post
          LMaOOOOOOOO

          those aren't Pukhtuns wthh?



          What's next? Pervez Besharraf was also Pukhtun?

          Altaf Hussain is Also Pukhtun?


          oh my.....we have alot to teach you.
          Actually some time ago, and this is true, google my name and look for Busharaf, LOL this Pak*i Dude from no-where entered our forum, and openly claimed that he was Pashtun by many generations and so was Musharaf. LOL I was not the only one cracking everyone was laughing because he brought up some weird stuff to show how he was pashtun and how Musharaf was a true Pashtun trying to hire Pashtuns in the military etc etc. Yep Its amazing that things you find out there published by Pak*is, I mean shocking statistics, shocking claims and so many theories, that actually makes you puke on them.
          Happy Ramadan everyone. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dym5AVwvc7c&feature=related]‫نشيد (زين الشهور) كااااملة || Zain Ramadan Nasheed-Full Version‬‎ - YouTube[/url]

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nick View Post
            Actually some time ago, and this is true, google my name and look for Busharaf, LOL this Pak*i Dude from no-where entered our forum, and openly claimed that he was Pashtun by many generations and so was Musharaf. LOL I was not the only one cracking everyone was laughing because he brought up some weird stuff to show how he was pashtun and how Musharaf was a true Pashtun trying to hire Pashtuns in the military etc etc. Yep Its amazing that things you find out there published by Pak*is, I mean shocking statistics, shocking claims and so many theories, that actually makes you puke on them.
            You are an Indian.

            I know there are some Indians on this forum disguising as Pashtuns.

            See here HandsomePashtun how shall I argue with this utter foolishness?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by handsomepashtun
              ^You seem very well educated. How do you know so much about this?

              This girl left you a message on your profile. I am curious in the same question..
              Educated? thanks but not really, I mean Education never stop regardless to how much you study, the more you know the more trusty you get. I personally think this gift of Allah is amazing, and the most amazing part is memorizing, something which I am good at. I don't fall often because i take care to where I step.

              well that same Question, I tell you what.
              You go ahead and I will start. I have been famous for it and many pak*is hates me for it. So what you say?
              Happy Ramadan everyone. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dym5AVwvc7c&feature=related]‫نشيد (زين الشهور) كااااملة || Zain Ramadan Nasheed-Full Version‬‎ - YouTube[/url]

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              • #8
                ^^
                You are definately not Pashtun. You are an Indian.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PakistaniSoilder View Post
                  You are an Indian.

                  I know there are some Indians on this forum disguising as Pashtuns.

                  See here HandsomePashtun how shall I argue with this utter foolishness?
                  Just because you saw some-one knowing about Pakistan more then a Pakistani you consider them "Indian". Nope I am not surprised, because this is one thing you pa*kis are good at Making Hindu vs Muslim case.


                  Just to piss you off I would love to say YES.
                  But actually I made my introduction. You want to read, go ahead, But I tell you what I am very nasty when it comes to facts. I am also very picky sometimes. Now in my old age I tend to be relaxed.
                  Last edited by Nick; 05-18-2010, 01:49 AM.
                  Happy Ramadan everyone. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dym5AVwvc7c&feature=related]‫نشيد (زين الشهور) كااااملة || Zain Ramadan Nasheed-Full Version‬‎ - YouTube[/url]

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                  • #10
                    I will take your challenge whatever it may be. And I will argue with the Wahabbi Nick too but its just sheer stupidity that he is denying that those in the Pakistani Military are not Pashtun. He is spreading incorrect propaganda and you can't argue with a propaganda machine.
                    Last edited by Guest; 05-18-2010, 01:40 AM.

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                    • #11
                      I'll do it myself.

                      Are you from Pakistan or Afghanistan?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nick View Post
                        Just because you saw some-one knowing about Pakistan more then a Pakistani you consider them "Indian". Nope I am not surprised, because this is one think you pa*kis are good at Making Hindu vs Muslim case.


                        Just to piss you off I would love to say YES.
                        But actually I made my introduction. You want to read, go ahead, But I tell you what I am very nasty when it comes to facts. I am also very picky sometimes. Now in my old age I tend to be relaxed.
                        I don't understand how you have wi-fi access from caves? What does your leader Mullah Omar have to say about this?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by handsomepashtun
                          I am a proud ethnic Afghan.

                          I dont think you can handle 3-5 people yourself, Please call for some back up. Im planning to bring in some serious users, There will be certain rules set and it will be in a separate thread. It will be a thread based on our understanding, and how legitiment your Govt is, or your country.

                          You can not handle it alone, I am sure you have people you look up to like I said, I know your from another forums, Pick and choose a few EDUCATED members who are good in politics and we can discuss.


                          Do not under-estimate Nick, He's probably the most intelligent person you have met. Don't judge a book by its cover.
                          Are you serious, you are going to argue how legitimate our government is? You must be kidding. We are the most powerful Islamic Nation on this planet.

                          Ok here let me sum it up for you,

                          In 1946 Pashtuns voted to join Pakistan by a majority.

                          The Afghans are stone age idiots who do not recognize this. Since Pakistan was created you Afghans were against Pakistan. You people voted against Pakistan to join the U.N. you people did everything against Pakistan. You could not accept the fact that your own Pashtuns wanted to leave the prehistoric Afghanistan and join a state that had a chance to progress.

                          You still hate us yet the Pashtun areas are constantly flooded with Pashtuns from the Afghan side to live on Pakistan side for a better life. How hypocritical.

                          Even the Afghans who migrated over knew the Afghans in Afghanistan are **** ups and have no real intelligence and will never progress thats why you people come to Pakistan. You people needed somebody with brains to help you live and that is us Punjabis.

                          Your tribes were constantly at war with each other. You had a civil war, 3 milion afghans killed each other off.

                          The Taliban was the only real order you people had albeit created by ISI AND CIA AND K.S.A. it was needed for you barbarians who were killing each other in Afghanistan.

                          Face it this is how you people are. Now some of you idiots are becoming educated you are now realizing how you people are **** ups and want to blame Pakistan your own stupidity.

                          The ISI and CIA did not incite the Soviets to invade Afghanistan, your leader was pro-communist and wanted them to invade, we knew this as well as the U.S.A. thats why we created the Mujahideen to save yourselfs because as it is obvious you people cannot think for yourselfs and not realize this.

                          After the Soviets left the U.S.A. ceased any support for Pakistan and we were left to create a government in Afghanistan. This is where the Taliban comes in. Your people YOUR TRIBAL ELDERS supported the creation of the Taliban. The ISI didn't force this upon you.

                          The Taliban established the only real sense of government/order that Afghanistan ever had. The Taliban creation no matter how brutal it had become was supported and enforced by your Tribal Elders since its inception.. You may argue some other nonsense but you will be lying and are hiding from the facts.

                          Now you hate the Punjabis and Pakistan because we could not figure out a better way to create order for your idiots and this was the only way that would work and was supported by your Tribal Elders.

                          Afghanistan was created 263 years ago and since the 263 years you idiot Afghans have done nothing to make yourselfs a better life.

                          The Pashtun Tribal elders in West Pakistan wanted to self govern. These people had such a stone age thinking they did not want to integrate with the modern world and advance. Now they are realizing they ****ed up and made a mistake and want to blame it on Pakistan/Punjaibs to save face. We can't help if we Punjabis are smarter than you idiots, you ****ing Pashtuns and Afghans need to analyze your own faults accept responsibility for what you have become.

                          Now all your foolishness that had happened it is Pakistan's fault.
                          Its Pakistan's fault for trying to create order for you simple minded idots. None of it is your Afghan/Pashtuns fault. How ****ing stupid.

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                          • #14
                            Wooh buddy, as much as I encourage discussions, You got to watch your mouth, insulting and disrespecting members or an entire country and ethnic group is not what this community is about. If you can't offer logical reasoning or if all your going to do is curse, you might as well not post at all. You are a member of this community, our PF community members expect you to live up to its standards and quality.

                            Nevertheless, If you want to debate that's fine, but if that's the way you choose to debate, by cursing after every few sentences, Expect repercussions of your actions. Easy pal,easy.
                            Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                            A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                            For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                            The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                            -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                            • #15
                              Genghis Khan was pashtoon too.. Right mr pakistani?

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