dr najeeb speech on shah nawaz tanai

[ScimitarXEdge]

I live under their political system. I'd rather live under their political systems any day of the week over the "so-called" Muslims' political systems.

You don't seem to understand....

they are not meddling in my religion....

you are not one who is against their system yet you live here. You believe that jihad should be done against them, i don't. why are you not fighting against them?

you don't seem to be good at logic mr. illogical.

the so called Muslim political systems are extensions of "their political" systems; why else do you think Cananda and U.S. are allies and collaborate with Pakistan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia? So in reality you contradict yourself again because you're giving loyalty to the same corruptions that create the problems in Muslim societies.

You don't understand; Islam is more than bowing your head five times a day, it's Morality, Ethics, caring for Nature, the Environment, against exploitation.

If you're not even concerned or trying to do anything about the other stuff; your praiyers mean nothing, because the whole purpose of Prayer is to give you the Spiritual Enligtenment for all the other things we're supposed to do

gee For not being good at logic I was at least able to highlight your contradictions and hone in on how you were making red herring and trying to derail the topic.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Are you licking your vomit?

next time think before you act cool and speak against a nation you are living in and believe that jihad should be done against them....


hypocrite...


now go back to your cage...

Hehe yeah that's it just repeat "hypocrite" even though you haven't been able to rebuttal any claim I've made, have not been able to show a single contradiction in my views and practices.

Maybe you need to look up the word. Speaking against the nation you live in is not "hypocrisy" by definition. Keep trying.

here's a dictionary;

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrisy

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

You don't seem to understand the Quran or politics properly.

I am done with you...

It is people like yourself who has made Afghanistan into what it is today. You would never live in Afghanistan. You are too comfortable living in the US, yet you have the audacity to tell people how to run an "Islamic" system.


May Allah save us from hypocrites like yourself.

[ScimitarXEdge]

You don't seem to understand the Quran or politics properly.

I am done with you...

It is people like yourself who has made Afghanistan into what it is today. You would never live in Afghanistan. You are too comfortable living in the US, yet you have the audacity to tell people how to run an "Islamic" system.


May Allah save us from hypocrites like yourself.

you're right I have no understanding of the Qur'an what so ever; the qur'an says we should bow down and ignore moral corruption, exploitation as long as we can pray. And that a person named Qadiyani is a new Prophet after Muhammad(saw). heh.

What should Allah do about hypocites like you though? Your arguments are circular you keep assuming that people are motivated by comfort; that's what you're motivated by, but many of us are simply here because of circumstance. Nothing else.


Yeah you're right, because Najib collaborating with the Russians in killing 1.5 Million Afghans was making Afghanistan a much better place according to you?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

you're right I have no understanding of the Qur'an what so ever; the qur'an says we should bow down and ignore moral corruption, exploitation as long as we can pray. And that a person named Qadiyani is a new Prophet after Muhammad(saw). heh.

What should Allah do about hypocites like you though? Your arguments are circular you keep assuming that people are motivated by comfort; that's what you're motivated by, but many of us are simply here because of circumstance. Nothing else.


Yeah you're right, because Najib collaborating with the Russians in killing 1.5 Million Afghans was making Afghanistan a much better place according to you?

I don't know what to think of you...

who are you to meddle in the politics of a country when you don't even live there? Tell me...

Have you ever lived in Afghanistan?

You are against the US..
You believe that Jihad should be done against them.

yet

You live there


Tell me, are you that flawed when it comes to logical thinking?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

better yet, why are not in Yemen? helping out your brethren before a US take over?

[ScimitarXEdge]

I don't know what to think of you...

who are you to meddle in the politics of a country when you don't even live there? Tell me...

Have you ever lived in Afghanistan?

You are against the US..
You believe that Jihad should be done against them.

yet

You live there


Tell me, are you that flawed when it come to logical thinking?

Explain how am I meddling? You're the one who thinks that Imperialists occupying a country is a valid procedure? Isn't that meddling?


and even if I did think what you're saying; what's wrong with that and explain how it is by definition hypocrisy?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrisy

and use the dictionary definition, not some made up asinine one you're using.

and so what If I live there ....HOW DOES ANY OF THAT REBUT MY POINTS???? ...There's no Logical response that someone's points are wrong because they live under the state institutions they find flaw with.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

You have two choices, yet you want that which is not part of your creed: the Americano living...


I can't stop shaking my head at your illogical arguments....

btw,

this discussion is very simple, i don't understand why you can't wrap your head around it?

[graveyardofempires]

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dont waste your time on this moronweirdnobody

he clearly is a blind follower of najib.
offocurse najib did horroble things.

since he is a qadiyani what can one expect.

[ScimitarXEdge]

By the way Answer these questions

1.) WITH DIRECT QUOTES FROM ME .....what are my views and how do I not practice them?

2.) Who are the groups that I support/collaborate with?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Explain how am I meddling? You're the one who thinks that Imperialists occupying a country is a valid procedure? Isn't that meddling?


and even if I did think what you're saying; what's wrong with that and explain how it is by definition hypocrisy?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrisy

and use the dictionary definition, not some made up asinine one you're using.

and so what If I live there ....HOW DOES ANY OF THAT REBUT MY POINTS???? ...There's no Logical response that someone's points are wrong because they live under the state institutions they find flaw with.

I live in Canada. I will defend it. I stand by whatever it takes to protect me and my country. that is why i am not in Afghanistan, Afghanistan is not safe, for no one...not even hard-core Muslims like you and incorporated, and that is also the reason why you are not there. the difference is that I don't speak against the country where i live, and like a coward continue to live there....that is the difference between me and you..


ahahahhahahahaha....you are amazing...

ps

at least i am having fun....keep it coming...

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

if you believe in your interpretation of quran, then put it into practice...otherwise...like your creed states it, you will GO STRAIGHT TO HELL....


be careful mr. mu'tazilah...walk the talk...

so when are you leaving for Kandahar...when will you free your women? when?

[ScimitarXEdge]

You have two choices, yet you want that which is not part of your creed: the Americano living...


I can't stop shaking my head at your illogical arguments....

btw,

this discussion is very simple, i don't understand why you can't wrap your head around it?

My Creed never says you can't live in America if that's what your circumstances entail; My creed understands that people live in America because America imposes its institutions which is to make people dependent on it's mechanisms.

what I can't shake my head around is how I have explained this point to you very clearly and you have

A.) Not rebutted it and shown how it's incorrect or not a valid reason.

B.) I have made this point; but you keep making a circular argument as if your premise that people are in America on account of luxury and comfort is true.

if I wanted comfort and luxury, I'd live in Kuwait.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

you should be happy that you have security in a good country like the states....yes...their foreign policies suck, but it is a good place to live...


Allah does not like the ungrateful...

[ScimitarXEdge]

if you believe in your interpretation of quran, then put it into practice...otherwise...like your creed states it, you will GO STRAIGHT TO HELL....


be careful mr. mu'tazilah...walk the talk...

so when are you leaving for Kandahar...when will you free your women? when?

Again circular argumentl; please establish where in my creed I have contradicted my views?


show direct quotes this time.