dr najeeb speech on shah nawaz tanai

[ScimitarXEdge]

Mainstream media was pro mujahideen in those days and so was the human rights watch.for God's sake,they even made a couple of holywood movies to boost up their efforts.

what has this got to do with ethnic pride?

i dont care about najib just dont talk **** about Pashtun women when you clearly have no knowledge if it really happend.

And Now Mainstream Media wants to Exonerate Najib because he represents their line of thinking; so the tides have turned.

you're absurd; how is talking about how Pashtun women were being violated and abused by Russian soldiers because Najib assisted equivalent to talking **** on Pashtun women

EXPLAIN that leap in reasoning.

[graveyardofempires]

you're absurd; how is talking about how Pashtun women were being violated and abused by Russian soldiers because Najib assisted equivalent to talking **** on Pashtun women

EXPLAIN that leap in reasoning.

ok

first off i dont believe that happend.

i believe it was a deliberate cold war era propaganda.
they used the name of Pashtun women for their propaganda purposes and you are repeating it further.

like i said you have enough other reasons and true events why would you fall for this filthy propaganda and an attempt to degrade name of Afghan women for propaganda purposes.

since we have a war going on on Afghanistan right now ,it shoudl be obvious to you.

[gadoonwal]

Najib was leader of KHaD, during Karmal's time; Defending Afghanistan doesn't mean collaborating with a foreign invader.

I'm not saying that Pakistan didn't have an agenda, obviously they did; but being against Pakistan doesn't mean being a Defender of Afghans or Pashtuns.

so you think pakistan was doing nothing wrong to afghanistan?in that case he was defending afghanistan.
already said that he did bad things too the killing of innocents people but how will you deal in such situation?.
russain gone 22 years ago but the killing is continue so who is playing this game now.
Now indai and pakistan also play its card in afghanistan.
It is a big mess.Dr saib was patriotic leader.
He said i will not fire a single shot into pashtun region under the control of pakistan cus they are my own brothers.
pakistan was directly involed with dr saib but he never put his pashtunwali down.

[ScimitarXEdge]

so you think pakistan was doing nothing wrong to afghanistan?in that case he was defending afghanistan.
already said that he did bad things too the killing of innocents people but how will you deal in such situation?.
russain gone 22 years ago but the killing is continue so who is playing this game now.
Now indai and pakistan also play its card in afghanistan.
It is a big mess.Dr saib was patriotic leader.
He said i will not fire a single shot into pashtun region under the control of pakistan cus they are my own brothers.
pakistan was directly involed with dr saib but he never put his pashtunwali down.

I never said that? Just because Pakistan was doing wrong, doesn't mean Najib was doing right by helping Russia and Killing other Afghans.

if he did bad, then why are you calling him a savior; It takes more than just saying Pakistan is bad is a Savior; two sides people who fight each other are still bad.

[ScimitarXEdge]

ok

first off i dont believe that happend.

i believe it was a deliberate cold war era propaganda.
they used the name of Pashtun women for their propaganda purposes and you are repeating it further.

like i said you have enough other reasons and true events why would you fall for this filthy propaganda and an attempt to degrade name of Afghan women for propaganda purposes.

since we have a war going on on Afghanistan right now ,it shoudl be obvious to you.

Why is it filthy propaganda? and what is the measure of what's a credible source?????

[graveyardofempires]

Why is it filthy propaganda? and what is the measure of what's a credible source?????

did you see that report which times used to gain support for war in AFG.
this report was about a girl who's nose was chopped off and they said she was gang raped by taliban and had to escape from her talib husband.

the same thing was going on back than.

one thing is clear :Afghan women are used for propaganda purposes to justify invasion or retaliation.

[gadoonwal]

so Najib killing more Afghans than the Mujahideen is made up for because he was willing to offer passports? A man who's a friend of pashtuns does not collaborate with people invading his country; nor do they help to decimate, rape or tyrannize his citizens; for the sake of Russian Power.

ask any kabul resident what the so called mujaheedin did to them after the fall of najeeb?
mainly pakistani media made him,,,sor kapir,, and thE west.
There is no proof of he asked russain to rape pashtun women.
It was karmal collaborate with russains .When he came into power he did ask russain to go.

[Niazi]

Yeh coming from drug dealer supporter ,

[ScimitarXEdge]

ask any kabul resident what the so called mujaheedin did to them after the fall of najeeb?
mainly pakistani media made him,,,sor kapir,, and thE west.
There is no proof of he asked russain to rape pashtun women.
It was karmal collaborate with russains .When he came into power he did ask russain to go.

I know what the Mujahidden is; but when you compare numbers, Najib was much worse. Mujahideen killed 100,000 Afghans in five years, Najib killed 100,000 in one year.

there's plenty of Proof; go to Human Rights Watch
http://www.ips.org/icc/tv230604.htm

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The widespread rape and torture of women during the years of the Soviet occupation after 1979 was well documented by Amnesty International and by UN reports, she added.

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"The criminals, mainly Soviet soldiers but also Afghan soldiers supporting the Marxist-Leninist government at that time, went unpunished. Most women had lost a close male relative under Soviet occupation," said Shorish-Shamley, whose brother had been killed by the pro-Soviet regime.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Yeh coming from drug dealer supporter ,

Which drug dealers have I expressed support for? Show me a quote.

[ScimitarXEdge]

http://books.google.com/books?id=t_p...page&q&f=false

[Niazi]

That's pure bullsh*t, never has there ever been 20 Million Afghans killed or raped. If that happened that would be the Third largest act of genocide in History,

Even I wouldn't embelish figures that high

the Civil War in Afghanistan, killed 100,000 Afghans; still bad, any loss of innocent life is bad, but in comparison that's still less than 10% of what Najib help do.

Najib was a evil man but your Muslim brothers made him look like angel,I know what I'm talking about becose I lived under our Muslim brethren from 92 to 2000, On the other hand you merely farting from your motherland US of the A.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Najib was a evil man but your Muslim brothers made him look like angel,I know what I'm talking about becose I lived under our Muslim brethren from 92 to 2000, On the other hand you merely farting from your motherland US of the A.

Beautifully said!

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Dr. Najib understood the science of politics that is why the people of Kabul had a good system. If he was allowed to rule the rest of Afghanistan properly, Afghanistan would have been a different place. He was politically savvy and rightly so; however, the rest of them were just power hungry. Both of their colours showed: one tried to bring Afghanistan at par with times, but his time ran short; and, the others tried to bring Afghanistan back to the beginning of time and succeed.

[Gulbabo]

Rest In Peace Dr. Saib.


I have great respect for his courage, to decide to say in the country under dire situations... no matter how much he was pressured to sign the Durand treaty and extend it, he didn't!... and they killed him!... Rest In Peace!

I still remember the day when he was killed... many were in tears...