For Those of You Who Hate Pakistan

[PakistaniSoilder]

Ok, so there are Afghans and Pashtuns in Pakistan who hate Pakistan. Yes the government is Punjabi ruled, and they have not treated you well in Afghanistan and West Pakistan well, but Iran also had a serious hand in your affairs too whom you people also hate.

Do you know why the Pakistan's Punjabi ruled government has done this to you? You remember the Durrani Empire that stretched all the way to East Punjab? Of course not, you did not forget. You also did not forget how brutal your Afghan Kings were to our people, and as you have seen we have not forgotten either. You also did not forget that you Afghans voted against Pakistan to join the U.N. after the 47 partition which added fuel to the fire. Don't be quick to blame Pakistan for all your problems.

Yes, it was a while ago but hatred runs DEEP. Hatred runs deep with those Punjabis who have lived on their same piece of land for since the Durrani Empire rule and endured the brutal rule of the Pashtuns, their is still hatred here and it is spread from generations to generations and it is still talked about now the Pashtuns are doing suicide bombings in all over Pakistan and the Times Square attempted bomber was a Pashtun.

You reap what you sow.

You people continue this hatred, and we will also continue this hatred. We are 1000x more powerful than you and than you and Afghanistan will ever be. Its better you let go of the hatred or you are going to have many more decades of our wrath. Pakistan is here to stay. Either you work with us or work against us. Its up to you. And do not forget you also have the Iranians on your other side who also have not forgotten the past.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Ok, so there are Afghans and Pashtuns in Pakistan who hate Pakistan. Yes the government is Punjabi ruled, and they have not treated you well in Afghanistan and West Pakistan well, but Iran also had a serious hand in your affairs too whom you people also hate.

Do you know why the Pakistan's Punjabi ruled government has done this to you? You remember the Durrani Empire that stretched all the way to East Punjab? Of course not, you did not forget. You also did not forget how brutal your Afghan Kings were to our people, and as you have seen we have not forgotten either. You also did not forget that you Afghans voted against Pakistan to join the U.N. after the 47 partition which added fuel to the fire. Don't be quick to blame Pakistan for all your problems.

Yes, it was a while ago but hatred runs DEEP. Hatred runs deep with those Punjabis who have lived on their same piece of land for since the Durrani Empire rule and endured the brutal rule of the Pashtuns, their is still hatred here and it is spread from generations to generations and it is still talked about now the Pashtuns are doing suicide bombings in all over Pakistan and the Times Square attempted bomber was a Pashtun.

You reap what you sow.

You people continue this hatred, and we will also continue this hatred. We are 1000x more powerful than you and than you and Afghanistan will ever be. Its better you let go of the hatred or you are going to have many more decades of our wrath. Pakistan is here to stay. Either you work with us or work against us. Its up to you. And do not forget you also have the Iranians on your other side who also have not the past.

I see where you are coming from, but that doesn`t really change anything does it. If we are suffering for what our ancestors did, then it is logical that you will suffer for the policies that your establishment has done, no? Your logic basically condemns you to the same plight that we are going through. Oh and btw, don`t forget it was Ahmad Shah Baba (yes he was brutal) that broke down the marhatta confederacy and washed away any chances of a hindu dynasty. At least mention that as well, before you go on mentioning the bad.

[PakistaniSoilder]

The Pakistan government saved your ass from the Soviets by creating the Taliban. And the U.S. had serious involvement in this too don't forget. If the Soviets would have taken over there would be no more Afghanistan Pashtuns. They would have massacred you people and destroyed your history. You know this.

[tor_khan]

Ok, so there are Afghans and Pashtuns in Pakistan who hate Pakistan. Yes the government is Punjabi ruled, and they have not treated you well in Afghanistan and West Pakistan well

Acknowledgement

Do you know why the Pakistan's Punjabi ruled government has done this to you?

Further acknowledgment that this is driven by a deeper racism

Yes, it was a while ago but hatred runs DEEP. Hatred runs deep with those Punjabis who have lived on their same piece of land for since the Durrani Empire rule and endured the brutal rule of the Pashtuns, their is still hatred here and it is spread from generations to generations and it is still talked about now the Pashtuns are doing suicide bombings in all over Pakistan and the Times Square attempted bomber was a Pashtun.

So the Panjab is out for vengeance/blood?

You people continue this hatred, and we will also continue this hatred. We are 1000x more powerful than you and than you and Afghanistan will ever be. Its better you let go of the hatred or you are going to have many more decades of our wrath.

Is this a declaration of war?

Pakistan is here to stay. Either you work with us or work against us.

Straight out of George W Bush's book.


Are you for real??

[Nadir Shah]

Absolutely ridiculous!!!

We cannot thank you for saving us from the Soviets. We did not need you when we were invaded by Alexander, Parthians, Persians, British and the others. We did not need you in 1979, we do not need you now. Though it would have been nice for you to have acted as our Mozlem brothers and help us rather than be the front soldiers of your British masters when they invaded Khyber, Waziristan, Tirah, Kandahar and Swat. Let us not forget that you guys fired at the Kabbah and Medinah and Al-Quds for British interests. I am in a jovial mood, otherwise I would have told you to shove your help.....(apologies but I can't stand Pakis).

About Ahmed Shah Durrani: You need to understand, which is highly unlikely seeing that you are a product of Mutaliy ye Pakistan and the Jeeve Jeeve generation, that there are certain norms of every age. The 18th century was the era of empire building and aggressive wars. Lets not forget your Indic Waliullah asking Ahmed Shah Baba for help. The British oppressed you more than the Afghans. Why are you all living in Bradford and stuff?

Pakistan is a failed state. Your 1000X power was evident in 1971 when the biggest humiliation in the history of modern warfare was witnessed. You have never been able to fight fo more than 17 days.

[Nadir Shah]

^Thats not true.

since Pakistan is scared of India.
India started supporting Tajiks.
Pakistan supported Pashtuns who were mainly Taliban.


Taliban was created by Kandaharis in Qandahar.

Pakistan supported and used it to destablize Afghanistan since it's scared of a stable govt.


wjy you think our govt is so scared of Indian presence in Afghanistan right now?


Kayani ries every week to American masters.

India was not supporting Tajiks. Get your minds out of the PTV Khabarnaama gutter. There were talks of a multi-ethnic Govt of reconciliation in Afghanistan after Dr Najib stepped down, with Burhanuddin Rabbani as President, Gulbadin Hekmatyar as Pm and Ahmed Shah Massoud as Defence Minister. The necrophilic Pakis saw this as an opportunity to divide Afghanistan along ethnic lines and hence sabotaged this agreement. When the failures of Gulabadin Hekmatyar were too evident, the funds and Topak/Daaksun were transferred to the Taliban.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

The Pakistan government saved your ass from the Soviets by creating the Taliban. And the U.S. had serious involvement in this too don't forget. If the Soviets would have taken over there would be no more Afghanistan Pashtuns. They would have massacred you people and destroyed your history. You know this.

This is utter nonsense, heard it before and will ignore it, as it belongs in the dustbin of history along with `pak army won 1965`lolzz.

[PakistaniSoilder]

Acknowledgement



Further acknowledgment that this is driven by a deeper racism



So the Panjab is out for vengeance/blood?



Is this a declaration of war?




Straight out of George W Bush's book.


Are you for real??

You actually think the Punjai government did what they did for nothing. You haven't been to parts of Punjab were they still tell the stories of what your Pashtun soilders did. This is how the Middle East is (yes we are in South Asia but in the vicinity of Islamic countries).

The hatred gets passed form generation to generation. Same goes for Iran and the Arabs. Iranians still get hate and mistreatment when they go to Dubai or for Hajj.

Pakistan is moving away from that but you Pushtuns are now doing suicide bombings in Pakistan and have killed 30,000 of our citizens. You need to look at yourselfs and your mentality than point fingers at others. Its your fundamentalist attitude that led the ISI in the 80's to recruit you willingly. We saved your very existance and now you people are blowing yourselfs up and killing innocent people and blaming the Paksitan's government for making you do this. How much sense does this make?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

You actually think the Punjai government did what they did for nothing. You haven't been to parts of Punjab were they still tell the stories of what your Pashtun soilders did. This is how the Middle East is (yes we are in South Asia but in the vicinity of Islamic countries).

The hatred gets passed form generation to generation. Same goes for Iran and the Arabs. Iranians still get hate and mistreatment when they go to Dubai or for Hajj.

Pakistan is moving away from that but you Pushtuns are now doing suicide bombings in Pakistan and have killed 30,000 of our citizens. You need to look at yourselfs and your mentality than point fingers at others. Its your fundamentalist attitude that led the ISI in the 80's to recruit you willingly. We saved your very existance and now you people are blowing yourselfs up and killing innocent people and blaming the Paksitan's government for making you do this. How much sense does this make?

I don`t think you are for real, because no one can be this delusional.

[PakistaniSoilder]

You guys are kidding right? I am being serious? Who is doing the suicide bombings? Punjabis? I want you to tell me who exactly is doing the suicide bombings?

[PakistaniSoilder]

Pakistani soldier.

Those were Kandaharis who took revenge against Punjabis.

How can you blame a nation of 60million on what a few tribes from Kandahar did.

All those emperors who ruled you Punjabis were Kandahari.

Not all Kandaharis are like that.
not are all Pashtun.

but rigt now. The world has witnessed the terrorism being produced in Pakistan.

it's the worlds most dangerous county.

It is clear from the Iranians, Americans, Pakistanis that the violence in Afghanistan and on West Pakistan is predominantly from Pashtuns.

You have nobody to blame but your own people.

[PakistaniSoilder]

And if ISI and CIA did not provide you with weapons and training to fight Soviets you would not be here today. Iran also hand a hand in this.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

And if ISI and CIA did not provide you with weapons and training to fight Soviets you would not be here today. Iran also hand a hand in this.

That is a gross misrepresentation of the facts. Stop lying, you are entirely misrepresenting facts. CIA sent in money and arms to mujahideen way before any Soviet even stepped in Afghanistan. Second of all, these `mujadhideen` among them Hekmatyaar rocketyaar and massoud were on ISI payroll in the 70s to destabilize Sardar Daud`s government.

[tor_khan]

Pashtoons are known for their melmastia ... but sometimes even I think this should be exercised with caution.

You waltz into a Pashtoon Forum and then start spitting out hatred.

Do you want to contribute positively or do you just want a make a couple of statements and the leave via the back door?

[PakistaniSoilder]

Pashtoons are known for their melmastia ... but sometimes even I think this should be exercised with caution.

You waltz into a Pashtoon Forum and then start spitting out hatred.

Do you want to contribute positively or do you just want a make a couple of statements and the leave via the back door?

If I seem like it is hatred it is not.

I am just telling it to you from the other side.