The anti-pashtun marwats khans

[gadoonwal]

salim safullah marwat,hamyun saifullah marwat,anwar and all of the above their pakipied mother kalsoom saifullah marwat along with their marwat supporters are the ,,hater,,of pashtuns and pashtunkhwa.
Kasoom saifullah marwat voted 70 time in refrendum held in 40s for the support of pakistan.
When she was asked how she voted 70 time for pakistan ,she said i change the name of my husband 70 time.
Imagen their hate for pashtun and love for punjab.
His son is the preacher of ,,anti-pashtunkhwa and pashtun,,
During the renaming of pashtunkhwa he lead a rally in hazara to support hindkyaans against pashtuns.
We will never accept pashtunkhwa,, pashtun hater salim marwat cry in hazara.
There supporters in the same region/laki marwat hate anything to with pashtuns.
The most punjabizads and speak even a punjabi type pashtu ,,,achaa,,,etc.
These traitors destroy the pashtuns for punjabis.Their pashtu is dead,gerat and pashtunwali dead..

[Nora]

LOL thats a shame :S

[Michin Khel]

well saifullahs are rich businessmen ,not some "khan" or "malik" of marwats. There are other khans of marwats, one of them is anwar kamal khan marwat, who earned great respect in regard to pashtunwali by being chief of marwat qaumi lashkar and eliminating talibans completely from lakki. Dear you have zero percent info on lakki, which is evident from your PM to me in which you claimed that marwats speak seraiki and wear tehbund lol
beside if any marwat has done any thing to you then i am not responsible for it.

[gadoonwal]

well saifullahs are rich businessmen ,not some "khan" or "malik" of marwats. There are other khans of marwats, one of them is anwar kamal khan marwat, who earned great respect in regard to pashtunwali by being chief of marwat qaumi lashkar and eliminating talibans completely from lakki. Dear you have zero percent info on lakki, which is evident from your PM to me in which you claimed that marwats speak seraiki and wear tehbund lol
beside if any marwat has done any thing to you then i am not responsible for it.

marwat is our fellow pashtun tribe.I am talking about saifullas and their supporters and they are all marwatans right.
The saifullahs are the khans and the most powerfull of all.
If they do not enjoy the support of marwats then who is voting for them?
anwar kamal is another traitor and belong to PML/if i am not wrong.
I met only one marwat in my life and he was good pashtun but true supporter of punjab.besides that all Marwats are respected to me but not the pakipied servants serving in pak army and supporting saifullahs.Do,nt bring the entire marwat tribe into this discussion.

[Michin Khel]

I am amazed that you have met only one marwat in life while i have met so many swabiwals that i cant count them. Personally i dont like saifullahs, and our family (infact whole tribe) do not vote for them.
first you should understand deep internal politics of lakki marwat before making blind generalizations about lakki marwat. There are three PFs in lakki marwat, PF-74, PF-75 and PF-76. Among these the largest zone is PF-76 which is desert portion of lakki and its magor town is lakki city, the magor political family here are haji kabir family and anwar kamal family, saifullahs do not have any influence here.
PF-75 consist of areas adjacent Di khan and tank, the magor town here is ghazni khel, the magor political families here saifullah family and malak imran family.
PF-76 consists of fertile lands of naurang tehsil and it is adjacent to bannu, main political figures here are sher e nauranga, anwar hayat khan, naseer khan ,pir zakori etc.
You should understand that politics of lakki marwat is pretty diverse, dont restrict it to saifullahs....saifullahs are not so much popular among whole marwats because of their distant and royal behaviour.
maulana fazlur rehman is also a marwat but of paniala, di khan.
If joining pakistani politics is anti-pashtun phenomenon then all politicians of all districts of pakhtunkhwa are anti-pashtun including ANP.

[graveyardofempires]

so the other guy made one about gadoons and this is about marwats.
Pathetic trying to claim tribal superiority.

[Michin Khel]

If gadoonwal has problem with saifullah family then it is understanable but the title is so wrong, what is meant by "anti-pashtun marwats khans", it should have been " anti-pashtun saifullahs" . By social background, saifullahs are rich businessmen and politicians, they are not khans or malaks.
Also if participating in pakistani politics is anti-pashtun thing then nearly all pashtun politicians are fit into being anti-pashtuns.

[gadoonwal]

so the other guy made one about gadoons and this is about marwats.
Pathetic trying to claim tribal superiority.

i do not care for tribal superoirity.We are all pashtuns.
That guy created thread against gadoons was anti-pashtuns and have 0 knowledge of our tribe.
i UNDERSTAND why he created that thread, to stop me from anti-paki comments here.They are paid people to post here.
I created this thread against ,,saifullahs..and their supporters.
Marwat is great tribe of pashtunkhwa and many of them hate these traitors.

[fzpz]

Also if participating in pakistani politics is anti-pashtun thing then nearly all pashtun politicians are fit into being anti-pashtuns.

So in gadoonwal's world, 35+ million pashtuns are anti-pashtun?

[gadoonwal]

If gadoonwal has problem with saifullah family then it is understanable but the title is so wrong, what is meant by "anti-pashtun marwats khans", it should have been " anti-pashtun saifullahs" . By social background, saifullahs are rich businessmen and politicians, they are not khans or malaks.
Also if participating in pakistani politics is anti-pashtun thing then nearly all pashtun politicians are fit into being anti-pashtuns.

luffy,personally i have no problem with saifullahs .The reason i created this thread, we pashtuns blame others for each and everything but turn a blind eye on our pakhtuns.
The reality is that pashtuns harm their nation more then others.
Sherpao,hotis,jagra,amir moqam,subhan etc are also pashtuns and all of them hate pashtuns and serving punjab.
As i said Marwats is the great tribe of pashtunkhwa watan.They are like anyother pashtun tribe of pashtunistan.It is also fact that many of them supported the saifullahs .mong tha pakar di chi pa rakhtyaao khabaro stragi pati nako.dadi halqo da laasa ka sherpao di aw ka neem pao di pukhtaana rosto di.
dwi na gwaari chi pakhtun da khpal haq lapara raporta shey.da sarleek da saifullas pa nom pakar woo da khabara za staaso manam,obakha

[ComradePashtun]

Well, according to my friend from Pakhtunkhwa Marwat and Khattaks are the pro-establishment tribes and their favorites. Tribalism, the downside of Pashtuns, is very mcuh exhibited even in this thread, and just "as" enuciated in the official 'divide and rule' policy of the Pakistani government which they have inherited from the British era. It seems to be very successful, perhaps even for an inderterminated future. And it is these types who are more loyal to the king and than the king to himself. As long as loyal servants are there don't expect any real change to come about; the very pro anti-Pashtunkhwa stance of some of these people (as mentioned by Gadoonwal) are to be a major blockage in the way of Pashtun progress - not to mention reforms of for example FCR draconian colonialist rules in FATA that deprives them from their basic human rights.

By the way in my university there was a Marwat girl whose father was in the Paki army who was engaged with a Panjabi from the Paki military.

[Michin Khel]

luffy,personally i have no problem with saifullahs .The reason i created this thread, we pashtuns blame others for each and everything but turn a blind eye on our pakhtuns.
The reality is that pashtuns harm their nation more then others.
Sherpao,hotis,jagra,amir moqam,subhan etc are also pashtuns and all of them hate pashtuns and serving punjab.
As i said Marwats is the great tribe of pashtunkhwa watan.They are like anyother pashtun tribe of pashtunistan.It is also fact that many of them supported the saifullahs .mong tha pakar di chi pa rakhtyaao khabaro stragi pati nako.dadi halqo da laasa ka sherpao di aw ka neem pao di pukhtaana rosto di.
dwi na gwaari chi pakhtun da khpal haq lapara raporta shey.da sarleek da saifullas pa nom pakar woo da khabara za staaso manam,obakha

Saifullah's grandpa was an agent of British. These upper class businessmen have nothing to do with pashtuniyat. This family cant even speak in their own marwat dialect. I cant forget the rally against renaming in lakki, which was arranged by saifullings by giving money to protestors.
Dear gadoonwal, what do you expect from pashtuns of pakhtunkhwa when through out school and college they sing pakistani anthem and read praises of jinnah, paki army etc. I am doing MBBS, and even mbbs has one paper of pakistan studies. Seeking education in pakistan would definately make you a good pakistani citizen and a weak pashtun unless you have extraordinary appetite for books which would make you read neutral books.

[gadoonwal]

Saifullah's grandpa was an agent of British. These upper class businessmen have nothing to do with pashtuniyat. This family cant even speak in their own marwat dialect. I cant forget the rally against renaming in lakki, which was arranged by saifullings by giving money to protestors.
Dear gadoonwal, what do you expect from pashtuns of pakhtunkhwa when through out school and college they sing pakistani anthem and read praises of jinnah, paki army etc. I am doing MBBS, and even mbbs has one paper of pakistan studies. Seeking education in pakistan would definately make you a good pakistani citizen and a weak pashtun unless you have extraordinary appetite for books which would make you read neutral books.

thats a good point.There are ,,kurds,,living in turkey,syria,iraq and iran with no kurdish state but still they kept their culture and know their history.
All kurds are united on the issue of kurdistan.I met irani kurds never like to be part of iran and the same gose for turkish and syrain kurds.

The problem with pashuns is that they easily adopt other languages and culture.They look down up on their own language and culture thats the key point.Look it afghanistan how pashtun adopt farsi.The Naizais of mainwali in pakistan and many pashtun in kashmir,hazara and Sibi adopt other languages.They feel proud of mixing farsi ,urdu and english into pashtu.
That is why i am against the loy afghanistan and will support only pukhtoonistan.

[ComradePashtun]

While Afghanistan has also issues but it is seriously not as bad as KP in terms development of their authentic culture and advancement of Pashtu language. The entire south and east has Pashtu as language of education, of course even Kabul majority areas too are the same. Pashtu for us is just as literary and educational language as for you guys is Urdu or for Farsiwans is Farsi. I'm sorry but the comparison of Afghanistan and KP is silly. We make up solid half of the country, only a very very tiny isolated Pashtun communities are Farsiwanised, where as in case of Pashtunkhwa even Pashtu scholars cannot hold a general conversation in pure Pashtu. There is a much serious problem there. Your culture, language, and norms are diluted to the core, with exception of some areas in FATA.

First step for KP to come together and demand your god given rights with nartoob and merrana from Panjabis. This is your first and inalienable right. Stop the division and envision common interst as a one Pashtun nation. True, this would require a force to render a transformation from the current status quo. I think ANP or Achakzai probably serves as a good vehicle. We as undividuals need to do away with tribalism and short-seightedness and actively part away from traitors and denounce them even from our own so called solidarity groups. Our only solidarity group should be Pashtun nation.

From my understanding Marwat, Afridis, Khttaks etc. through their few unsavoury leaders and patronage of the few more have inadvertendly turned them into lackey tribes at the cost of all Pashtuns. It is a reality wheather we like it or not. Let's get KP united first then the rest is easy.

Excuse typos and other mistakes, iPhone is not made for my big and ugly fingers.

In fact I don't believe a word of Luffy' unctuous comments, he himself is more loyal to Jibah than any one. Or at best he is a weak Pashtun that the Paki studies have probably made him to be one. One minute he is a hardcore Paki the next minute he is not and would lament bla bla bla..

[Michin Khel]

In my area those who are uneducated or least educated or elder generation ,are firmly attached to pashtun culture and ways. Those who are becoming modern and highly educated ,are fastly losing sense of being pashtun. As literacy ratio is low in our area, so our area is a still the same stronghold of pashtuniyat. There is no urdufication at all at rural level. Urdu is taught at every level of education but even educated ones find it hard to speak urdu. Some how urdu is unable to find its place among pashtuns. Yes ofcourse sign boards are in urdu.
Status of pashto in lakki marwat is average, there is a daily pashto newspaper and a monthly pashto magazine which is printed at district level. Pashto poetry is intensely popular in lakki, you would find dozens of pashto poets in each village. There is pashto FM Lakki which is broadcosted in local dialect. Pashto is taught upto primary level in governament schools which would soon become upto secondary level and it will be also taught in private schools. It is gauranted that with new package from ANP governament, status of pashto would become even better than afghanistan in kp.
In tribal areas and in southren kp, pattren of culture is little bit different frm rest of pakhtunkhwa. We follow pashtun nationalism as well as tribal nationalism. By tribal nationalism i mean marwat nationalism, khattak nationalism, wazir nationalism etc. I.e we are proud of being pashtun as well as being marwat, wazir or bhitani. It can be argued that tribal nationalism is against pashtun nationalism but it is a fact it is remnant of ancient pashtun culture, tribal fueds and rivalries exist since ancient times, infact tribals and pashtuns of southren kp are most traditional of all in pakhtunkhwa. Unlike chardsada, nowshera or mardan etc , tank and lakki marwat have tribal structure. We have three main divisions within marwat tribe, then each division is divided into numerous tribes. Each tribe has clans and sub-clans. Forexample i belong to division of dreplarae, in which i belong to achu khel section. In achu khel i belong to begu khel sub section, within begu khel i am from nawar khel tribe, which seven clans...i belong to zafar khel clan.