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[Alchemist]

Alchemist
Alot of Kabuli's have that complain about the Taliban. They hated the beard checks, and hated the fact that they were forced to pray the same prayer several times. These are legitimate reasons to dislike the policies of the Taliban, during those times.

They also gave Pashtuns special treatments compared to Tajiks

I doubt that.

Within the ranks of Taliban there were arabs, pakistanies and chechans and what have you...so they were not racially motivated.

Unknown prince, and even myself, don't feel threatened to live in a society run by the Taliban even if they were "extremist". If the taliban acted like hall monitors in highschool going on a power binge, then we would be the good students who always had their hall passes on them lol ... if anything we would probably thrive in that sort of society...so I can see why brothers like unknown prince are so pro-taliban. No music? No problem... I am sick of music anyway. No tv? FINE! what a distraction....heck ..for all you know we would end up policing the taliban themselves! lol ...

[KingKhan]

My last statement is correct.

My family in Kabul explained several times that they got away with stuff just because they were Pashtun. While a Tajik/Uzbek would get penalized. Alot of Talibs also refuse to learn Farsi, which made the communication between them just a little bit more difficult.


The Taliban would be alot more popular IF they didn't have strange laws. My brother in law told me a story which happened during high school. The food they gave tasted horrible, and one day a boy had enough and started to complain. The boy got executed him right then and their, just because that one Talib felt like it. This is coming from a Pashtun, not a Tajik. He is also not a anti-Talib as he also shares good stories about them, and never bashes them when friends come over, and have a Taliban bashing party.

The Taliban lacked structure.

[Alchemist]

My last statement is correct.

My family in Kabul explained several times that they got away with stuff just because they were Pashtun. While a Tajik/Uzbek would get penalized. Alot of Talibs also refuse to learn Farsi, which made the communication between them just a little bit more difficult.


The Taliban would be alot more popular IF they didn't have strange laws. My brother in law told me a story which happened during high school. The food they gave tasted horrible, and one day a boy had enough and started to complain. The boy got executed him right then and their, just because that one Talib felt like it. This is coming from a Pashtun, not a Tajik. He is also not a anti-Talib as he also shares good stories about them, and never bashes them when friends come over, and have a Taliban bashing party.

The Taliban lacked structure.

Well I wouldn't pass my self as a farsiwan. I would just speak arabic by quoting the Quran nonstop LOL
no talib can refute the language that Allah chose...so that is why arabs got special treatment.

I think the rest of the world has TOO much structure and are structure obsessed and nothing else. So not having a structure can also be a good thing.

[Nick]

well i wouldn't pass my self as a farsiwan. I would just speak arabic by quoting the quran nonstop lol
no talib can refute the language that allah chose...so that is why arabs got special treatment.

I think the rest of the world has too much structure and are structure obsessed and nothing else. So not having a structure can also be a good thing.

lol

[Zahed]

who says thesr *******s 're Afghan Tajeks?? they 're those very same Iranian 'n Tajikistani faggots who 're creating choas for ages 'n everywhere!! the fact they win no support says enuf about their popularity.

[Wrayun]

You really disappointed me, not because you are Pakified, not because you are young and niave and not because you are so ignorant but simply because you turned out to be a beghayrat. Indeed it hurts me to say this, but you left me no choice, you just don't listen and bring the same crap over and over again.

Calling me beghairat is a great way to save your face. For once, instead of going into a long rant, try to refute my points.

What is this? One Taajik calls me out to a fight when the heat is on, the other is calling me beghariat, neither can adequately confront the issues this thread has raised.

You should be upset at your beradars, who spew such bigotry against Pukhtoons. Go to Tajikam.com, and other so-called "Afghan" sites, and you'll notice that more than any Pakfied Pathan, Taajiks are the ultimate fascist tools that play into foreign games. This is why Taajiks in Afghanistan are pro-occupation. If they wanted unity, they wouldn't have abandoned Najibullah or waged war with Hekmatyaar and continued to fight the Taliban.

Now show some ghairaat, and denounce your beradars treachery instead of blaming it on "Pakis" and "Shias".

[Nick]

Calling me beghairat is a great way to save your face. For once, instead of going into a long rant, try to refute my points.

What is this? One Taajik calls me out to a fight when the heat is on, the other is calling me beghariat, neither can adequately confront the issues this thread has raised.

You should be upset at your beradars, who spew such bigotry against Pukhtoons. Go to Tajikam.com, and other so-called "Afghan" sites, and you'll notice that more than any Pakfied Pathan, Taajiks are the ultimate fascist tools that play into foreign games. This is why Taajiks in Afghanistan are pro-occupation. If they wanted unity, they wouldn't have abandoned Najibullah or waged war with Hekmatyaar and continued to fight the Taliban.

LOL You are so lost I have talked about Tajikam so many times its own by Nazari kid ie Ismaili Gazalbash 3 kids same dude who used to spill pow in every Afghan forums. Thanks god they have their site now. One is Ismaili claims to be from "Balkh" lol his name Gul Agha he knows my gutts, another one is Tajikistani called Paristan, 3rd one i don't know but a crackhead for sure, and he is very good in Farsi.

Anyways these 3 guys are well knowns as loser and i have seen them posting and saying exact things as you are saying. Yes i can see their influence over you. Mr. Pakhtun. But again you are also not informed enough and it will take you some time to get to know things.


BTW their forums and sites are exactly like any other Iranian sh*t. LOL President of Tajikistan lol is the funny part and worse is their lies and connecting us with their shia "PErsian" brothers.

They also had many youtube videos and I am very sure only can argue with them not a professional as they have been kicked out most of the afghan forums.


Besides people join only once and never post, even i did, guess what its full of crap, that no afghan dari speaker can relate to other than Shais and few losers.

Besides they are down and no-one i have talked to likes their site.

So good promoting them.

[roadrunner]

If they wanted unity, they wouldn't have abandoned Najibullah or waged war with Hekmatyaar and continued to fight the Taliban.

A good point, I'd like to see answered.

Why did the Rabbani Massoud pair grab power in 1992 and break the Peshawar Accords?

What is wrong with sharing power? Why do Tajiks want to rule Pashtuns?

it's not going to happen.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

LOL You are so lost I have talked about Tajikam so many times its own by Nazari kid ie Ismaili Gazalbash 3 kids same dude who used to spill pow in every Afghan forums. Thanks god they have their site now. One is Ismaili claims to be from "Balkh" lol his name Gul Agha he knows my gutts, another one is Tajikistani called Paristan, 3rd one i don't know but a crackhead for sure, and he is very good in Farsi.

Anyways these 3 guys are well knowns as loser and i have seen them posting and saying exact things as you are saying. Yes i can see their influence over you. Mr. Pakhtun. But again you are also not informed enough and it will take you some time to get to know things.


BTW their forums and sites are exactly like any other Iranian sh*t. LOL President of Tajikistan lol is the funny part and worse is their lies and connecting us with their shia "PErsian" brothers.

They also had many youtube videos and I am very sure only can argue with them not a professional as they have been kicked out most of the afghan forums.


Besides people join only once and never post, even i did, guess what its full of crap, that no afghan dari speaker can relate to other than Shais and few losers.

Besides they are down and no-one i have talked to likes their site.

So good promoting them.

Hi Nick,
Salaam.

Can you explain your viewpoints to me. Is your general contention that shiah hegemony is the issue at hand in Afghanistan? I'm just trying to follow the back and forth between you and Wrayun and am a little lost.

[Nick]

Calling me beghairat is a great way to save your face. For once, instead of going into a long rant, try to refute my points.

What is this? One Taajik calls me out to a fight when the heat is on, the other is calling me beghariat, neither can adequately confront the issues this thread has raised.

You should be upset at your beradars, who spew such bigotry against Pukhtoons. Go to Tajikam.com, and other so-called "Afghan" sites, and you'll notice that more than any Pakfied Pathan, Taajiks are the ultimate fascist tools that play into foreign games. This is why Taajiks in Afghanistan are pro-occupation. If they wanted unity, they wouldn't have abandoned Najibullah or waged war with Hekmatyaar and continued to fight the Taliban.

Now show some ghairaat, and denounce your beradars treachery instead of blaming it on "Pakis" and "Shias".

Hi Nick,
Salaam.

Can you explain your viewpoints to me. Is your general contention that shiah hegemony is the issue at hand in Afghanistan? I'm just trying to follow the back and forth between you and Wrayun and am a little lost.

I used to be a pro-Najeeb for some in this forum knows that how much i love the guy but in reality he did his best but he was also a murderer. I told the story of him to people that he used to visit Qarabagh and our home was the only place he liked. People often made fun and thought i was full of shi*t I don't blame them. I still love him and pray God forgive him. But my point was even he was no good. So people stand up to those who are no good.

Look at the Afghan public every one of them hate these criminals in the government, and they create division for themselves i wish i could be stupid and would named one race/tribe/ethnic, but unfortunately people from every group who are criminals are now in the government.

One question you should ask why are people saying "Ok Taliban was better" specially those sick and tired of war? USA is here, NA is here NATO is here and so called ISAF and UN agencies etc etc. The whole world is there. You should ask what is going on wrong in afghnistan. If Afghanistan was Pakistan oh boy Pakistan would of already be the next state of USA.
You might say Afghan are idiots. Whatever you say, the fact that Taliban are winning on the ground is fact i witness from my own eyes. Taliban were stupid back than but now they have woken up. Those of whom I was introduced to when i was in Afghanistan say they will allow girls school, they will modernize and they will allow TV and everything that other Islamic world is Indonesia etc etc have allowed only if the Americans leave.


My suggestion to Pakistani Pakhtuns is wake up. Do your research, as much as you can.
Talk to people, if you find someone Farsi speaker ask them questions, that are in your minds.
that is one reason why I would prefer people to meet face to face.
I had a great hate for BLs and now I love him. He is from Pakistan and I am from the other side. We had disagreement arguments, and even bashing each-other.
But face to face meeting him and now i understood him, and he i hope understood me.
If you guys think a news agency from Pakistan or IRan will tell you the truth then I am sorry you guys are on the wrong side. In the international level same would apply to Aljazeera, and CNN

[khushal]

If you want to be ignorant be so. Your wrong Pakified accusation over Abduallah Abduallh only shows your naiveness. Stop reading anti-afghan newspapers and come to your senses. I personally have meet Abduallah Abduallah, I would never have said this, but it seems i know people in here who knows me, if i said openly its not a big issue. When he came in Canada I visited him actually his family members live in Canada and I am friends with them.
Abduallah did not kill and nor represented himself in such a situation. If fact he doesn't even know how to fire lol so cut the crap about him, and stop reading BS.

While I beleive that pashtuns and Tajiks can live together peacefully, it is not healthy to defend double abdullah and his past for the unity for all that live in afghanistan. The only reason he is where he is is because NATO are bombing the civilians that are trying to oust him from power. The civilians dont want him because he is not serving their interests and his past is shady.

Who is Abdullah Abdullah? - CSMonitor.com
mixed past

On one hand, his past is tightly wound with the warlords who cast Kabul into civil war during the early 1990s and have been accused of war crimes, killing thousands and leaving the capital in ruins. In 2007, when the international community balked at an Afghan bill that would have given these warlords immunity from past crimes – a law written by the warlords themselves – Abdullah was at the rally supporting his colleagues.

This is interesting
YouTube - Dr. Abdullah Abdullah accepts taking 10 million dollars in bribe

[Nick]

While I beleive that pashtuns and Tajiks can live together peacefully, it is not healthy to defend double abdullah and his past for the unity for all that live in afghanistan. The only reason he is where he is is because NATO are bombing the civilians that are trying to oust him from power. The civilians dont want him because he is not serving their interests and his past is shady.

Who is Abdullah Abdullah? - CSMonitor.com
mixed past

On one hand, his past is tightly wound with the warlords who cast Kabul into civil war during the early 1990s and have been accused of war crimes, killing thousands and leaving the capital in ruins. In 2007, when the international community balked at an Afghan bill that would have given these warlords immunity from past crimes – a law written by the warlords themselves – Abdullah was at the rally supporting his colleagues.

This is interesting
YouTube - Dr. Abdullah Abdullah accepts taking 10 million dollars in bribe

Being in power as he was I too think he might of just accepted the 10 million dollars but hey there are also accusation against him that says it was he who killed Massud, there are fingers pointed from all side. Sure I know of the fact that he had castle left in afghanistan from his father, and some say he has land in USA as well as houses he bought, but i won't buy it. Specially this silly woman who doesn't even know what she is saying. Marg ba adam kusha marg ba tit and tat etc and then she is like we are raising our for the people of Afghanistan. so who is people of Afghanistan is what i like to ask her. The Uzbeks or Tajikistanis? She made her self being laughed over with BS claims as w control media in here and we are free to say whatso ever and you got this much money etc.

While I beleive that pashtuns and Tajiks can live together peacefully, it is not healthy to defend double abdullah and his past for the unity for all that live in afghanistan. The only reason he is where he is is because NATO are bombing the civilians that are trying to oust him from power. The civilians dont want him because he is not serving their interests and his past is shady.

Well I have only meet people who likes him, and not Karzai, so I don't really know which people you are talking about. But he is a smart guy when it comes to world level politics. You see in politics you need big nose and he has big nose. I hope you get my point, not someone like Karzai who accuses musharaf and when attack by musharaf that he Karzai was an ISI lol working for him and worse he even apologized. What a shame but some of us never forget that. World of Politics is dirty. For a long time i always in every Afghan tried to iqnore politics cause i hate politics, and i hope i do stop. Because in reality i like no-one in power right now other than those who love peace, and those who love peace and wants peace is in my personal list, that I have added since ages as i researched Afghan politics, and politicans. At this moment we have one guy who has big nose but got old and cannot be in politics or maybe he doesn't want. That is Mr.Sadat, another person whom i have mentioned, there are many who have the Gutts to speak against unfarness but view who has big nose and the brain to compete in world politics.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Being in power as he was I too think he might of just accepted the 10 million dollars but hey there are also accusation against him that says it was he who killed Massud, there are fingers pointed from all side. Sure I know of the fact that he had castle left in afghanistan from his father, and some say he has land in USA as well as houses he bought, but i won't buy it. Specially this silly woman who doesn't even know what she is saying. Marg ba adam kusha marg ba tit and tat etc and then she is like we are raising our for the people of Afghanistan. so who is people of Afghanistan is what i like to ask her. The Uzbeks or Tajikistanis? She made her self being laughed over with BS claims as w control media in here and we are free to say whatso ever and you got this much money etc.



Well I have only meet people who likes him, and not Karzai, so I don't really know which people you are talking about. But he is a smart guy when it comes to world level politics. You see in politics you need big nose and he has big nose. I hope you get my point, not someone like Karzai who accuses musharaf and when attack by musharaf that he Karzai was an ISI lol working for him and worse he even apologized. What a shame but some of us never forget that. World of Politics is dirty. For a long time i always in every Afghan tried to iqnore politics cause i hate politics, and i hope i do stop. Because in reality i like no-one in power right now other than those who love peace, and those who love peace and wants peace is in my personal list, that I have added since ages as i researched Afghan politics, and politicans. At this moment we have one guy who has big nose but got old and cannot be in politics or maybe he doesn't want. That is Mr.Sadat, another person whom i have mentioned, there are many who have the Gutts to speak against unfarness but view who has big nose and the brain to compete in world politics.

Talk to me some more about Sadat. I interact with his daughter regarding educational issues for the Afghan nation per her father's involvement in the government and her affiliations here at Yale via Fulbright. We have disagreements on issues but generally keep it cordial.

[Nick]

Talk to me some more about Sadat. I interact with his daughter regarding educational issues for the Afghan nation per her father's involvement in the government and her affiliations here at Yale via Fulbright. We have disagreements on issues but generally keep it cordial.

Well LOL you have alot to tell brother not me. My knowledge of him is simply listing to him VIA TV shows and our elders talking about him. You know his daughter so you should be alot more informed about his personal views than me.

So go ahead tell us, Is he interested in coming to afghanistan to run the show? cause hey he was there at bone and so is was already involved in bring these Americans into afghanistan.

Please tell us more.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Well LOL you have alot to tell brother not me. My knowledge of him is simply listing to him VIA TV shows and our elders talking about him. You know his daughter so you should be alot more informed about his personal views than me.

So go ahead tell us, Is he interested in coming to afghanistan to run the show? cause hey he was there at bone and so is was already involved in bring these Americans into afghanistan.

Please tell us more.

Will do, Im on call tomorrow at the hospital so I gotta get some sleep. But I will address the question when I get back.