why do afghans hate pakistani's so much?

[Manzareh]

Manzereh, I really do think you're fighting with an Indian here.

Even if he's not, it's some dumb kid that probably never left his trailer.

So there's no point arguing with it in the way you're doing.

oh i see, that explains it all.

[آريا]

Because of inhuman treament of Pashtuns of FATA, Balochistan and KP by Pakis.

[KingKhan]

Pakistanis dont hate afghans but afghans are obsessed with pakistan.
My country is too busy with india, it should take notice of afghanistan, a weak but annoying country.

Of course. Afghans want their land back. So they have right to be obsessed.

[KingKhan]

afghans are famous for back stabbing and unthankfulness in pakistan, to large extent it is true.

What the hell is that?

Pakistanis are known to be famous for backstabbing and unthankfulness in America. Their also are unthankfulness for American tax money donating to Pakistan, so it won't fail.

I will also like to add that Pakistani are real good in provoking Muslims in America. They talk all the Muslim brother game to you, but what there really doing is gathering Information for the FBI.

[Manzareh]

As a Pakistani u actually dont know about the reputation u got in Pak? Really? I'm surprised u actually havent met Pakistanis who 'll tell u jokes about how Pathans scare the children, how they run after small boys, and all other nonsense that comes with it. If anything then I guarantee in Afghanistan Pashtuns by far aint being bombarded with as much offensive and disgusting. "jokes" like in Pak, guarantee. And last time I checked, male prostitution is a growing business in Lahore, isnt it?? Btw, what happened to ur Pashtunism which stood for Pashtuns regardless which sides we live in? Ab mirchi kyun lag gayee bhai jaan, apne asli awqat par agaye kiya??

The Pakistanis hate on each other in minoritys as every nation has jokes about one another, the punjabis hate on the Jatts, Sindhis hate on Punjabis the baluchis have there own private jokes etc and vice versa however your missing the main point: PAKISTAN IS NOT A PASHTUN COUNTRY and Afghanistan IS a so called 'pashtun country' that bows down to darius, you people are ridculed in your own country, the uzbeks,tajiks,hazaras,farsi all are one, its a persian country and soon your gunna lose grip of the empty pasho national anthem because as a pashtun your not wanted in afghanistan. you have non pashtun leaders, you celebrate nowroz, you think your better than other pashtuns because you know Dari, the more persian you are in a pashtun country the more elite you are. thats the sad part, if all this was happening and afghanistan wasnt titled a pashtun country then it would be acceptable but its not, do u understand? if all of what you mentioned happend in Pakistan against the pashtuns and it was a pashtun country then id put my hands up and say "zamoong bezati wosho" but its not. thats why im not up for pakistan or afghanistan. i want my people to have nothing to do with "punjabe munde bache" or "kheri khubai dostum". you afghanistanis label pashtuns with things punjabis are responcible for so wh cant i hold you pashtuns in afghanistan responcible for peadophillia which is commit by non pashtun citezens of afghanistan. Afghanistan is currupt and dirty as Pakistan is and i have no doubt with the attitude of afghanistanis your country would be worse than amsterdam if it wasnt being bullied by the world and constantly sent back to the stone ages whenever it gets a chance to advance. take a trip back to memory lane in the 60's were you afghans used to walk around in afghanistan with mini skirts and have disco's, the rate you were travelling at thed probly be a heera mandi on every corner by now.

[Mina]

The Pakistanis hate on each other in minoritys as every nation has jokes about one another, the punjabis hate on the Jatts, Sindhis hate on Punjabis the baluchis have there own private jokes etc and vice versa

Those who throw silly jokes dont care who they joke about, they just need people to make fun of and if those people happen to be a majority in a country, then may it be so.

however your missing the main point: PAKISTAN IS NOT A PASHTUN COUNTRY and Afghanistan IS a so called 'pashtun country' that bows down to darius,

If we bow down to Dari which we 've been speaking ever since Afghanistan estabilished and even during the times u, Pak Pashtuns, were a part of our country as well, then even Urdu doesnt hold any less respect in Pakhtunkhwa.

you people are ridculed in your own country, the uzbeks,tajiks,hazaras,farsi all are one, its a persian country

First make up ur mind about whether Afg is a Pashtun country or Persian, second if u think Pashtuns 're been ridiculed too much, u havent heard jokes about Hazaras, Uzbeks, Kabulis and especially Heratis yet which 're million times worse.

and soon your gunna lose grip of the empty pasho national anthem because as a pashtun your not wanted in afghanistan.

Our anthem has been in Pashtu even when our language wasnt official in Afg and since we still maintained our culture and language all those centuries, then it 'll only remain the same or become stronger. Tanx for the concern.

you have non pashtun leaders, you celebrate nowroz, you think your better than other pashtuns because you know Dari, the more persian you are in a pashtun country the more elite you are.

Even u got many non Punjabi leaders, so???

thats the sad part, if all this was happening and afghanistan wasnt titled a pashtun country then it would be acceptable but its not, do u understand?

Afg is an Afghan country, not just Pashtun. Dont be ridiculous and say Pak is Punjabi country only 'cause it would destroy the image of Pashtuns who fought for a country "which isnt even theirs". Now be honest and tell how much respect Punjabis as majority hold in Pak??

if all of what you mentioned happend in Pakistan against the pashtuns and it was a pashtun country then id put my hands up and say "zamoong bezati wosho" but its not.

So people can disrespect, ridicule, and loot u only 'cause "Pak is not a Pashtun land"? And u call urself a Pashtun and a Muslim??

thats why im not up for pakistan or afghanistan.

If u 're not up for either country then u shouldnt ridicule nor defend any country, while time on time u ridicule Afg and defend Pak with whatever reasons u find justifying.

Afghanistan is currupt and dirty as Pakistan is and i have no doubt with the attitude of afghanistanis your country would be worse than amsterdam if it wasnt being bullied by the world and constantly sent back to the stone ages whenever it gets a chance to advance. take a trip back to memory lane in the 60's were you afghans used to walk around in afghanistan with mini skirts and have disco's, the rate you were travelling at thed probly be a heera mandi on every corner by now.

Tajiks had freedom way before the wars, for centuries. They were wearing skirt but not minis, know the difference. Nonetheless they were very graceful people and if all those centuries not even one hira mandi was built, then u 're sounding quiet funny by comparing it to a country which was supposed to be based on Islam, yet hira mandi was based there was before the country itself. Even tho in Lahore none wears minis, yet we all know what its known for. Haya pa parda nepetegi, pe niyat aw izzat petegi.

[roadrunner]

Pakistanis dont hate afghans but afghans are obsessed with pakistan.
My country is too busy with india, it should take notice of afghanistan, a weak but annoying country.

That's not true, Luffy. Shame on you.

Afghans do not hate Pakistan. Afghan Nationalists do.

Ordinary Afghans just want to earn their living and that's about it.

[Michin Khel]

pakistanis dont hate india, pakistani nationalists do, do you agree?

[roadrunner]

pakistanis dont hate india, pakistani nationalists do, do you agree?

What is Pakistani Nationalism, out of interest?

Indian Nationalism and Afghan Nationalism is a bit different. Indian Nationalism seeks to create Bharatvarsha so that Pakistan and Afghanistan fall under the dominion of India/Delhi. Afghan Nationalism seeks KPW.

And no, many Afghans do not hate Pakistan. India vs Pakistan might have a bit more religion to catalyze the enmity if there is genuine enmity there.

[KhalsaWarrior]

What is Pakistani Nationalism, out of interest?

Indian Nationalism and Afghan Nationalism is a bit different. Indian Nationalism seeks to create Bharatvarsha so that Pakistan and Afghanistan fall under the dominion of India/Delhi. Afghan Nationalism seeks KPW.

And no, many Afghans do not hate Pakistan. India vs Pakistan might have a bit more religion to catalyze the enmity if there is genuine enmity there.

You are falling for the usual trap and confusing the rhetoric of a few Hindu right wingers as Indian nationalism. BJP-RSS-VHP-Shiv Sena, the progenies of the Sangh Parivar are not the torch bearers of Indian nationalism. Indian nationalism is much more than these political groups.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Many, if not most Indian nationalists would not even dream of incorporating the provinces of the current Pakistan to their country, just adding another almost 200 million Muslims to the Indian union, when India already has to deal with:

- Kashmir issue.

- Naxalite rebellion.

- Rebellions in the north-east.

- Threat from China.

Anyway Pakistan is an artificial state created by the British dominated by racist Punjabis who abuse other nations within this state be it Sindhis, Pashtuns, Balochis and even the almost equally arrogant Urdu-speaking "Mohajirs". Many Pakistani nationalists see Bangladesh as "East Pakistan" and ultimately and inevitably "returning back". This about a country they have never set foot on, know nothing about, and when Iran, Uzbekistan, the UAE are closer.

If Pakistani nationalists are so fond of using the "Muslim card", why don't they consider a union with Iran, Uzbekistan, the UAE or even Turkey?

Answer: Because just like Afghans, Iranians view Pakistanis as racially and civilizationally inferior. Arabs consider Pakistanis as inferior and would not want to "degrade" themselves with such a union. Uzbeks consider Pakistan as backwards and a failed state. Turkey issues a lot of flowery rhetoric about Pak-Turkish brotherhood but at the end of the day it was always Arab volunteers who came in huge numbers for Kashmir and not the greywolf nationalists of Turkey. Anyway a Pak-Turk union would be good as it would help Turks to find out the reality of the failed terrorist state run by a feudal-military elite that is Pakistan.

[salahuddin]

Many, if not most Indian nationalists would not even dream of incorporating the provinces of the current Pakistan to their country, just adding another almost 200 million Muslims to the Indian union, when India already has to deal with:

- Kashmir issue.

- Naxalite rebellion.

- Rebellions in the north-east.

- Threat from China.

Anyway Pakistan is an artificial state created by the British dominated by racist Punjabis who abuse other nations within this state be it Sindhis, Pashtuns, Balochis and even the almost equally arrogant Urdu-speaking "Mohajirs". Many Pakistani nationalists see Bangladesh as "East Pakistan" and ultimately and inevitably "returning back". This about a country they have never set foot on, know nothing about, and when Iran, Uzbekistan, the UAE are closer.

If Pakistani nationalists are so fond of using the "Muslim card", why don't they consider a union with Iran, Uzbekistan, the UAE or even Turkey?

Answer: Because just like Afghans, Iranians view Pakistanis as racially and civilizationally inferior. Arabs consider Pakistanis as inferior and would not want to "degrade" themselves with such a union. Uzbeks consider Pakistan as backwards and a failed state. Turkey issues a lot of flowery rhetoric about Pak-Turkish brotherhood but at the end of the day it was always Arab volunteers who came in huge numbers for Kashmir and not the greywolf nationalists of Turkey. Anyway a Pak-Turk union would be good as it would help Turks to find out the reality of the failed terrorist state run by a feudal-military elite that is Pakistan.

Arabs consider those who are Non-Arab as inferiror not just Pakistanis, I have seen the treatment Pashtuns get in Dubai, especially those in labour camps.

What has turks got to do with the reality that Pakistan is a failed state?

You are wrong there, it has been Punjabis who are fighting in Kashmir, with some elements of Pashtuns, I have not seen a Arab fighting in Kashmir.

Do you think we Pashtuns are going to side with Bengalis? Majority of Pashtuns dont even like Bengalis, Alot of bengalis hold onto the same Pro Jihadi trash as Punjabis do, go and meet anjem choundary, most of his supproters are bengalis lol

[Bengal_Tiger]

Kafir Maseed attempts flame war by unprovoked insults

Kafir Maseed,

1. You are a lying abusive, foul mouthed anti-Islamic Kafir and enemy of Pashtuns who has insulted:

a: Bacha Khan.
b: Kandahar.
c: Ahmed Shah Abdali.
d: Afghanistan and its people.
e: The ANP.
f: Swatis.
g: Afridis.

and countless others, you speak for no one but your own retarded self you stupid Mancunian twat.

You stand for nothing, except for hate.

The little childish videos that you used to make from the safety of your comfortable Manchester house are now used against you as examples of your stupidity...e.g. when in one of your moody little tantrums you denied being an Afghan, and then Shlombay posted a video of you when you said Pashtuns are Afghans and rightly said you are "moody".

lol.

Anyone who disagrees with your anti-Islamic views is automtically classified as a "terrorist" by you, when you are nothing but a disgusting, hate-filled, racist piece of crap from Manchester. You basically insulted Mahzala as a terrorist when she disagreed with some of your opinions.

In Pashtunkhwa if you called the daughter of a Pashtun a "terrorist", you would not be still writing pro-American trash from your basement in Manchester.

Anyway a refutation of you and the people you hate:

1. Bacha Khan, a great man. Abdul Ghaffar Khan stood for peace and the use of peaceful methods. He had a deep tenderness and love for humanity that distinguishes him from the greedy feudal that dominate Pakistan. He is a hero and I ask Allah to have mercy on his soul.

2. Ahmed Shah Abdali. A great man whom Pashtuns consider the greatest Pashtun ever (though Sher Shah Suri could take that title as well) and is the founder of a nation which has lived longer than the USSR, Yugoslavia, Pakistan and many other nations. A nation which retains its unity dispute its turbulent nature and the intervention of colonial powers.

Baba Ahmed Shah, has done more for Pashtuns than some twat with a silly Mancunian accent, who is hated by virtually every Pashtun on this forum, especially the female members. He is also respected by South Asian Muslims due to being invited by Shah Waliullah Dehlawi to defend Islam in India.

3. The ANP. Though it is well known that the ANP leadership are corrupt and are thieves, the party itself and its rank and file are different. The ANP have:

a - defended Pashtuns in Karachi.
b - defended the rights of Pashtuns in Lahore.

Here is an email which I get, since I am part of Khyberwatch Network Mobile. It was by Arif Jan Khan Umerzai, on 31st of January.

following mile stone achieved by ANP in short span of time.
1)-Change the name of Province as Khyber Pukhtoonkhwa only on 13 members of national assembly.
2)-Resolve the issue of Kalabagh dam forever according their own manifesto.
3)-To get maximum provincial autonomy in 18th amendment.
4)-Also get maximum electricity realities from central government.
5)-Khan Abdul Wali Khan University.
6)-Bacha Khan Medical College.
7)-Frontier Women University.
8)-A lot of developmental project approved in PC-1 inshallah very soon every Pukhtoon brother see that our young and energetic CM inaugurates these projects.
9)Government establish their own dames and inshallah in future we have our own electricity buts it’s long term projects.
10)-Our provincial pass the resolution that up to 10th class education is free in government schools and it’s implemented by Mr. Babak Education Minister of Khyber Pukhtoonkwa.
11) ANP have clear stand fight against terrorism.
12)-ANP also fights for Karachi Pukhtoon against bloody MQM as everybody knows in Pakistan

Bengal Tiger = Moderator of Khyberwatch forums, a Pakhtoon forum consisting of many experienced Pashtun nationalist activists who have been involved in defending Pashtun rights for decades.

Kafir Maseed = Annyoying BBCD (British-Born Confused Desi),a British Pakistani from Manchester, banned from Khyberwatch and hated by many Pashtuns, and also perenially banned from Pashtun forums and hated by virtually every Pakhtoon on here, especially the females.

lolzzzzzz.

(This stupid Kafir is probably going to knock down a few bottles of Manchester's finest beer with some roast pork, to calm his anger down at me reacting to his unprovoked attack and insults againt me....lol)