farah and nimroz,afghanistan

[gadoonwal]

Farah is in westren afghanistan and nimroz in southwest.


nimroz,farsi
YouTube - Afghan women enjoy greater freedom in Nimruz - 23 Dec 08

nimroz,farsi,help them afghan govt

YouTube - Lack of Drug Addicts Rehabilitation in Nimroz VOA-Dari

Nimmroz life gose on,girls school,un,farsi

YouTube - Media Campaign: "I work for the UN, I work for Afghanistan" - UNICEF in Nimroz Province
Farsi
representative of farah malay joya speaks to the people of FARAH.
YouTube - Malalai Joya speaks to people in Farah (Part 1)

Farahi people dancing with US soldiers
YouTube - Dancing with Lt. Brewster in Farah, Afghanistan 2/7 G Co.

Nice info but no pashtu.
Even A-P claim these areas are majority pashtuns farah 80%
Nimroz is also good numbers of pashtuns but still everyone talk in dari.
They look and speak in iranian farsi.
In next few years we will see the pashtu WILL BE disapear from eastren farah where still some speak it.Iran is doing great job with help of its right hand man ismail khan of herat.
I met with norzai of farah and was ,nt happy when i asked him pls talk in pashto cus he could,nt.Even some norzai still speak pashtu in the eastren farah.
Majority turning minority in those areas.
This is real begeratob to speak in iranain in not in pashtu.

Malalay joya is also norzai from farah but never talk in pashtu.She can,nt.Why?
dwi la mong ta pegorona kawey.gwari chi mong ham farsi zda ko.
lanat de wi pa har haga pakhtun chi prady jaba khpala wey aw khpala pakhtu pragdi ka da har zai wey(pakhtunkhwa vey ka AP).

[gadoonwal]

I thought farah was non-pashtun area

yes,historically.It was part of khorasan.The pashtuns there are migrants from kandar.
They are very much persanised and influenced by iran.Yazdi an ethnic group of iranains
are the native of farah.They are farsiwans.
The vast majority of farahi pashtun speak farsi .

[KingKhan]

Why would you say such a think? Know all the "Afghans" will attack you like watchdogs, for attacking their Farsi!

Unknown
Farah is suppose to be Pashtun province.

[graveyardofempires]

wrora this is the wrong way to look at Afghanistan
How do you ,maybe the translator for the news folsk were farsi and how do you knwo that it is only the dari which has been uploaded to the internet.

the problem with you guys is when we raise the question of punjabis taking over pukhtunkhw ayou come with this non sense.
these people didnt steal our land and created anew country to destroy our culture and language.
we have two languages in Afghanistan not one and other minority languages are also preserved.
and you claim Pukhtane want to speak in farsi is a total non sense and even if they do speak dari it doesn tmean they have lost their values.In Afghanistan people follow Afghan/Pukhtun culture folklore clothing etc and its called integration and of you think we will start hating our people who call themselves Afghans and have been with us hundreds if not thousands of years than you are dreaming.
these people have fought for the independece of Afghanistan and they have a right to be there and i will not be party to be anti someones language.
Like i mentioned before Pukhto is rising but it seems that you will go and look for some reports in dari to back up your own self proclaimed view.
i have lived and been raised in Afghanistan and i must tell you ,the way you are trying to have this black and white picture is unreal.
you should be more optimistic instead of trying to be isolationist.

if this is the way you think things will be going than i guess we need to end the discussion and will not raise the question of urdu totally anihilating pukhto in pukhtunkhwa.

Guess what hearat also has over more than 50% pukhtane and people in hearat speak Pukhto and dari and the dari they speak might accordign to you be iranian farsi but i do see the difference.

[graveyardofempires]

Why would you say such a think? Know all the "Afghans" will attack you like watchdogs, for attacking their Farsi!

Unknown
Farah is suppose to be Pashtun province.

shut up slave boy
go polish some jinah shoes who on his turn polishes shoes of the raj.

[gadoonwal]

graveyard,wallah dir ajeeba sarai ye wora,ta kha pohagai chi sa nazar laram aw bya ham awti boti wai.
ka da pukhtano pa gata wey nu wallah pakistan de khodi nan wran key za ba e darsara lomri malgari yam.za pa urdu sa kawoom sa chi da zra gwari leeka.
It is is realy shame the pashtuns of afghanistan look down on pashtu and defend farsi,what the hell is wrong with you guys.?
Creat hundereds thread a day or more against paksitan and their traitors pashtun leader but do,nt close your eyes on reality.
I visited herat in 2008 honestly the farsiwans are far more better then you people,more civilised and respectfull.
Come on not even 10% of herati speak pashtu.There are some people of pashtun origin but speak iranain farsi.Farahi people in general are very good and simple.
I went their with my quetawal friend where he married with the farsiwan girl.
Nice family and they feel happy when i talk to them in pashtu even they could,nt understand anything.Be strong and united with all ethnic groups but do,nt look down on your pashtu.
You are calling every pashtun paki,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so you want paki to join your country? whoever speak for the rights of pashtu in afghanistan is paki in your view.
Your country is still depending on paki port karachi,using its road for trade.
what will happen if they close the border of chaman and torkham?
are you not eating punjabi ,,ghanam,,.
if you are realy that powerfull afghan then how the punjabi ,,jats,,treat you like its 5th province.
kom de staaso gati khabarai,sa shwa staaso haga da lar aw bar darog?
takra sha aw pa pakistan breed waka khpal watan jod ka.
za pa pakistan ham wor lagom aw da farsibani pa gulamano ham wor lagom.
za khpala pejandgalo pa pakhtunistan gwaram.
We want better relation with farsiwan cus they could help us and they are the powerfull group in afghanistan.your so called pashtuns including karzai was ISI agents,omar,zaeef,tanai and many more.why do,nt you name them here.
There are many kunari living in pashtunkhwa begging for paki id card are they not proud of tazkira?
will a geratmand afghan pay for paki id card to stay under punjabi rule?
darog aw munafeqt ba na kawoo.
I creat few thread against pakistan here and you know my view very well now i fully understand which group you are belong to.

[graveyardofempires]

you are a moron and talk utte non sense
how are pukhtan elookign down on pukhto
that is your paki mentality from now on you are that to me.
just because punjabis took you over and turned you into something which you now are doesn tmean somehting is wrong with Afghans.your problem is you are lookign for an excuse to cover your own failure.
Afghanistan has pashto and dari as national languages and is a multiethnic and cultural society with pukhtunwali and pukhto being dominent.
our problem is also caused by durrand line but it seems since you have submited to the kafir british raj you are now speaking in high notes as if you are something good.

There are many kunari living in pashtunkhwa begging for paki id card are they not proud of tazkira?

this shows that pukhtunkhwa is a paki territory for which you need to beg to punjabis ,hell even you beg to punjabis to give you your identity as paki.
you have a paki passport.the way you are trying to defend your poonja masters by degrading Afghans speak volumes.
We are not interested in any racist state of pashtunistan the only countryto which Pukhtane belong is Afghanistan,take it or be a paki that you are.

dont talk to me again

[gadoonwal]

so what language will the pakhtuns of karachi speak when ARY News interviews them? Or what language will Niazis of punjab speak when they are spoken to?

These pashtuns live in non pashtun areas, Farah is historically been part of khorasan and sistan. Their native language after Islamic conquest has been farsi.

And for your information, Dari or farsi is not iran's language. you should read some history. The earliest books in modern farsi are from Afghanistan and central Asia not Iran. The people of Iran specailly western Iran where majority of iranians live spoke "Pahalavi", not farsi. Farsi is as native to Afghanistan as pashto.

How would you feel if some uzbeks from sheberghan come to kandahar and started speaking uzbeki, would you tolerate it?

so malay joya is working for some persain afghan tv,thats why she speak farsi?right.
is she not farahi?
man i have been there on my way to herat.yes,there are pashtuns in farah still speak pashtu but at home only in market speak farsi.The majority speak farsi is their first language.
dari was darbari farsi later change to dari .
Also in which language you talk to iranain?
what language herati,farahi and nimrozi speak?
is it your shamali or iranain farsi?
Many baluchis still speak their language in nimroz but dari/farsi is dominant.

[graveyardofempires]

malalay joya is a farsiwaan
this shows your non sense and wrong info.
try harder to make us look bad.

[graveyardofempires]

I don't really get your point. what is your point?

Farah is a place dominated by farsi, its the mother tongue of the population of that area. Whats the problem in people speaking farsi there?

I speak in farsi to iranians when they speak a little clearly, if i don't undrestand them i speak in english to them, what is your point?

he has no points all he does is trying to use smear tactics against Afghans while not knowing how we perceive reality.

[gadoonwal]

you are a moron and talk utte non sense
how are pukhtan elookign down on pukhto
that is your paki mentality from now on you are that to me.
just because punjabis took you over and turned you into something which you now are doesn tmean somehting is wrong with Afghans.your problem is you are lookign for an excuse to cover your own failure.
Afghanistan has pashto and dari as national languages and is a multiethnic and cultural society with pukhtunwali and pukhto being dominent.
our problem is also caused by durrand line but it seems since you have submited to the kafir british raj you are now speaking in high notes as if you are something good.

There are many kunari living in pashtunkhwa begging for paki id card are they not proud of tazkira?

this shows that pukhtunkhwa is a paki territory for which you need to beg to punjabis ,hell even you beg to punjabis to give you your identity as paki.
you have a paki passport.the way you are trying to defend your poonja masters by degrading Afghans speak volumes.
We are not interested in any racist state of pashtunistan the only countryto which Pukhtane belong is Afghanistan,take it or be a paki that you are.

dont talk to me again

you are realy hopless and arogant to understand the real point here.
yes,pashtunkhwa is under the control of pakistan and this part was sold by a durani king of afghanistan right,for 4 hundered thousands pond a year.
will a real pakhtun sell his mother?
khawra kho mor v ,aya mor tsok harsy?
i do,nt even like to respond becuze you can not discuus in civilised way and ignoring the fact.staa mashran kho khpala da punjabyano taali sati.staaso da laasa kho mung pa azab u.lanat de wey pa haga pukhtano chi da pakistan aw parsibano mlaatar aw gulaami kawey.
good luck and be good s.no need reply from you.

[graveyardofempires]

you are realy hopless and arogant to understand the real point here.
yes,pashtunkhwa is under the control of pakistan and this part was sold by a durani king of afghanistan right,for 4 hundered thousands pond a year.
will a real pakhtun sell his mother?
khawra kho mor v ,aya mor tsok harsy?
i do,nt even like to respond becuze you can not discuus in civilised way and ignoring the fact.staa mashran kho khpala da punjabyano taali sati.staaso da laasa kho mung pa azab u.lanat de wey pa haga pukhtano chi da pakistan aw parsibano mlaatar aw gulaami kawey.
good luck and be good s.no need reply from you.

like i said you are full of non sense and there no need to be civilised with someone who has been civilised by the british.

our kind didnt sell anything it was your leaders who were dogs of british raj and the guy who came with british the guy who built "islamia college" was your leader.
our leaders are not as you say in punjaby pockets,just cuz you are doesnt mean we all are.instead of trying to attack Afghans with your smear tactis you can better see your own faults and change yourself.
Ghulam kho te yee ghulam dey plaar woo ghulam de neeke woo de angreezano aw hindwano and haghey na bad de jinah.
you are just jealouse cuz we still stay genuine and have not changed to the wishes of the british empire while you did and became what you are today.Remember we Afghans will never support a pashtunistan which is full of anti Afghan unity peopel such as you.
you can live happy ever after with punjabistan and we will inshallah come for our land inshallah.

[gadoonwal]

I don't really get your point. what is your point?

Farah is a place dominated by farsi, its the mother tongue of the population of that area. Whats the problem in people speaking farsi there?

I speak in farsi to iranians when they speak a little clearly, if i don't undrestand them i speak in english to them, what is your point?

brother,i am not against farsi or any language.My point is people should feel proud of their lanuage.Learning other language is great losing your own language is worst.
THESE PASHTUNS FROM AFGHANISTAN ARE lying they say pashtu and dari are the tow national languag ok if thats the case then how come every pashtun can speak farsi and the farsiwan speak only farsi not pashtu?
media etc are full of dari why not pashtu?
why do,nt you people learn pashtu if pashtun learn your language.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

First of all, stop the personal attacks. If the person made a point, then counter it, if they don't know any better inform them. There is no need for this to be an ego contest. I don't understand how a topic like say x area doesn't speak the desired pashto automatically becomes a pasthunkhwa v afghanistan pashtun debate...maybe it is our lack of any political leverage against the other groups in the region that has led us to feel a sense of one-upping each other..maybe something else. Allah u aalim.

As far as I know, Farah and Nimroz are both major pashtun areas (nimroz with roughly half baloch). Farah city has a number of tajiks but the province itself are pashtuns.

[graveyardofempires]

geedarwal do you watch Afghan tv?