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    This was taken at Angoor Adda, which is a hot bed of Punjabi Taliban and Wazir Taliban.

    What makes this video amazing, is that there are also Maulvi Nazirs Wazir Talibs also doing attan with Pakistan Army, I confirmed this as well.

    How can a army according to graveyardofempires is fighting Pakistan but on the other hand is also doing attan with them.

    While the Mahsuds are punished by bombings, killings and being forced to be IDP's, the Pakistan Armies Assets get freedom,money and protected(except from Drones).

  • #2
    This naivity and criminal indifference by the Tribal Pashtuns to the Pashtun national interests is the cause of death and destruction there. The tribal Pashtuns should realise that they have been used as cannon fodders for maintaining the Punjabi empire in Pakistan both by the mulla and the military of Pakistan. A lion' s share of Pakistani budget goes to Pakistan military and they live a royal life of perks and benefits while our naive tribal Pashtuns are not even given basic human rights and on top of that asked to protect the controvertial borders of Pakistan and get killed for the interests of Punjabi empire.

    It is time that the tribal Pashtuns should take a stand on their national interest along with the Pashtuns of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Bolan Pakhtunkhwa.
    Last edited by pir_Rokhan; 03-19-2011, 05:17 PM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by pir_Rokhan View Post
      This naivity and criminal indifference by the Tribal Pashtuns to the Pashtun national interests is the cause of death and destruction there. The tribal Pashtuns should realise that they have been used as cannon fodders for mainting the Punjabi empire in Pakistan both by the mulla and the military of Pakistan. A lion' s share of Pakistani budget goes to Pakistan military and they live a royal life of perks and benefits while our naive tribal Pashtuns are not even given basic human rights and on top of that asked to protect the controvertial borders of Pakistan and get killed for the interests of Punjabi empire.

      It is time that the tribal Pashtuns should take a stand on their national interest along with the Pashtuns of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Bolan Pakhtunkhwa.
      As always, scapegoating your problems on to others i.e. Punjaabis and Parsiwans or Arabs.

      For as long as we can go back in history, no one has screwed Pukhtoons more than fellow Pukhtoons. Durrani vs. Ghilzai, Khattak vs Yousafzai, Shinwari vs Bangash, Apridi vs. Orakzai, Maseed vs. Waziri. But most of all, Afghan Pukhtoons vs KP Pukhtoons.

      Even at the urban level, there is a constant tribal struggle between Pukhtoons. In different cities and areas, Pukhtoons only serve and cater to their own fellow tribesmen. Look at the political situation, ANP vs PMAP.

      Who needs enemies when you have "brothers" like these? In Pukhto, they call it tarborwale.

      These are the signs of a primitive society struggling to implement a cohesive national unit, with so many complexes that it's futile to list. Much of it is evident even in it's educated class, so-called the "intelligencia", there is nothing "intelligent" about it.

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      • #4
        are they distributing cash?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
          As always, scapegoating your problems on to others i.e. Punjaabis and Parsiwans or Arabs.

          For as long as we can go back in history, no one has screwed Pukhtoons more than fellow Pukhtoons. Durrani vs. Ghilzai, Khattak vs Yousafzai, Shinwari vs Bangash, Apridi vs. Orakzai, Maseed vs. Waziri. But most of all, Afghan Pukhtoons vs KP Pukhtoons.

          Even at the urban level, there is a constant tribal struggle between Pukhtoons. In different cities and areas, Pukhtoons only serve and cater to their own fellow tribesmen. Look at the political situation, ANP vs PMAP.

          Who needs enemies when you have "brothers" like these? In Pukhto, they call it tarborwale.

          These are the signs of a primitive society struggling to implement a cohesive national unit, with so many complexes that it's futile to list. Much of it is evident even in it's educated class, so-called the "intelligencia", there is nothing "intelligent" about it.

          Generally I agree to your points except "As always, scapegoating your problems on to others i.e. Punjaabis and Parsiwans or Arabs". I am sure TRIBAL PASHTUN is not any sub branch of Punjabis, Arabs or Parsiwan Afghans as I said:

          This naivity and criminal indifference by the Tribal Pashtuns to the Pashtun national interests is the cause of death and destruction there
          Last edited by pir_Rokhan; 03-19-2011, 05:28 PM.
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          • #6
            2 points i would like to make. in times of hardship and stress, it is natural for people to want an escape and have some enjoyment, after all, even the army are human.
            the other point is, maybe the locals didn't have much choice. if they are occupied by men with rifles you may just have to play the diplomacy game.

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            • #7
              Graveyardofempires at best is an idiot at worst a Paki imposter….these are Qeratmand Wazirs...yaqurbaan...tang tang tan...Azad Sarhad...Azad people… they have Azadi to do Punjabis bidding against Afghanistan…azadi to smuggler goods, weapon and drugs… and off course…Azadi of shooting their toorboor, killing their kaka, having higher Qala wall then their cousin...Allah o akbar...da kho de Islam jang dee.. aw Pakistan kho de islam Qalah de. Massud are all Hindus agents.
              We Pashtuns are in a sorry state…we are our own worst enemy and its not just the illiterate majority….British had said one thing right about us… “If you want Pashtun royalty pay him money.”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Babadung View Post
                Graveyardofempires at best is an idiot at worst a Paki imposter….these are Qeratmand Wazirs...yaqurbaan...tang tang tan...Azad Sarhad...Azad people… they have Azadi to do Punjabis bidding against Afghanistan…azadi to smuggler goods, weapon and drugs… and off course…Azadi of shooting their toorboor, killing their kaka, having higher Qala wall then their cousin...Allah o akbar...da kho de Islam jang dee.. aw Pakistan kho de islam Qalah de. Massud are all Hindus agents.
                We Pashtuns are in a sorry state…we are our own worst enemy and its not just the illiterate majority….British had said one thing right about us… “If you want Pashtun royalty pay him money.”
                lol
                ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                • #9
                  yeah having fun and if they refuse than TORTURE and humaliation.

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                  • #10
                    Azmal,

                    Do you know this Babadung guy?

                    Why is he pretending to be a Pashtun when he is not? He is a Herati Farsiwan.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Babadung View Post
                      Graveyardofempires at best is an idiot at worst a Paki imposter….these are Qeratmand Wazirs...yaqurbaan...tang tang tan...Azad Sarhad...Azad people… they have Azadi to do Punjabis bidding against Afghanistan…azadi to smuggler goods, weapon and drugs… and off course…Azadi of shooting their toorboor, killing their kaka, having higher Qala wall then their cousin...Allah o akbar...da kho de Islam jang dee.. aw Pakistan kho de islam Qalah de. Massud are all Hindus agents.
                      We Pashtuns are in a sorry state…we are our own worst enemy and its not just the illiterate majority….British had said one thing right about us… “If you want Pashtun royalty pay him money.”
                      do i know you?
                      dont you need a doctor to check your brain and do a damage report?

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                      • #12
                        damtob ta tol tayar nast dee. harchata chi wogori pa gadda sar wee.

                        I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                        non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
                          As always, scapegoating your problems on to others i.e. Punjaabis and Parsiwans or Arabs.

                          For as long as we can go back in history, no one has screwed Pukhtoons more than fellow Pukhtoons. Durrani vs. Ghilzai, Khattak vs Yousafzai, Shinwari vs Bangash, Apridi vs. Orakzai, Maseed vs. Waziri. But most of all, Afghan Pukhtoons vs KP Pukhtoons.

                          Even at the urban level, there is a constant tribal struggle between Pukhtoons. In different cities and areas, Pukhtoons only serve and cater to their own fellow tribesmen. Look at the political situation, ANP vs PMAP.

                          Who needs enemies when you have "brothers" like these? In Pukhto, they call it tarborwale.

                          These are the signs of a primitive society struggling to implement a cohesive national unit, with so many complexes that it's futile to list. Much of it is evident even in it's educated class, so-called the "intelligencia", there is nothing "intelligent" about it.
                          Hence the reason nobody has figured out a way to effectively rule this so called "primitive society."

                          Although there is competing tribal interests at play in pashtun society, I dont think it is to a point where it is that different than in other societies. I dont know too much about KP pashtuns to talk about in detail but in afghanistan when the Durranis ruled, it wasnt the ghilzais that overhtrew them. It was Daud(durani) that decided it wasnt feasible anymore to rule a nation as a monarchy.
                          Also when the Soviet installed Najib(ghilzai) was ruling Kabul, his main adversary wasn't a durrani but a ghilzai named Hekmatyar. When Mullah Omar(ghilzai) started approaching Kabul, Hekmatyar(ghilzai) didn't join his fellow tribesman but fought against him. One must also note that the number two Taliban Leader Baradar is a Durrani who is an adversary of Karzai who is also a Durrani.

                          This notion that pashtuns only serve and cater their own tribesmen is a myth, at least in afghanistan. If you go to the average afghan village, you will see a diverse group, some supporters of Taliban, some supporters of Hezbi Islami Hekmatyar, some supporters of the government, some are agents of the ISI, some are agents of CIA, etc. Some are loyal to an ideology, and some are loyal to money.

                          I think it was Churchil that said "if we are not defending our nation, then we are battling amongst ourselves." So when you see pashtuns bicker amongst each other, this is natural human behavior that is not unique to us but it exists in all of humanity. In the west, the bickering is mostly peaceful because of strong national government institutions keeping the peace and figuring out a way for their citizens to bicker in the courts with pens instead of with guns.

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                          • #14
                            Qesa sa do ?
                            .....


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                            • #15
                              There's a pattern forming here

                              Motivating Muslims to fight/kill other ethnicities of Muslims, Arabs vs. Pakhtuns, Pakhtuns vs. Punjabis

                              then turning around to stir animosity between other Pakhtun tribes against each other.


                              What else can this be but an imperialist/mentally colonized Indian's service to White Imperial master's divide and rule strategy.

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