Agents of the British Empire in Pukhtunkhwa

[ComradePashtun]

Arrgghhh flipping Pathans. Disgusting daal eating weak slaves.

[Toramana]

Arrgghhh flipping Pathans. Disgusting daal eating weak slaves.

ComradePashtun, come on...If a Pashtun like you become egoistic, what would we expect of others....It is a fact that Pashtuns respect Sahibzada Abdul Qayum Khan for his public service...I myself have a lot of regard for him being a graduate of Islamia college...

This is one of the few good things he did...

[Toramana]

Arrgghhh flipping Pathans. Disgusting daal eating weak slaves.

And there is nothing wrong with daal....It is just a food...Same can be said of other foods...Btw...Pukhtunkhwa Pukhtuns are heavy on meet...In our Swat we eat a lot of rice ...rice in dinner difinitely...that is why it is said "Swatian zara sho kho pa wrijo mara na sho..."

[graveyardofempires]

toramana werent you endosring Roman alphabets for Pukhto on the other thread?
i guess the "education" is working on you.

[Toramana]

Roman alphabet is just a set of symbols...Ever symbol represents a sound prodouced by your vocal organs....so what is important is, the sound...you can use another symbol to represent it...

[Alchemist]

Four hundred years back, nothing grew in the Arabian desert....Poverty was rampant ...Many old mean have told me that Arabs would come to Pukhtunkhwa to collect alms ....And during draught when a Bediunes/Arabs wouldn't find any thing to drink, he would insert a stick in the mounth of a camel and when it would vomit, he would drink the liquid...

Now Arabs have big petro-tummies thanks the modern technology and big economies compared to their destitute lives then...

It isn't so simple comparing economies this way....

what is with you and your arab obsession?

Seek help dude.


No one was even talking about arabs...nothing in this thread even remotely relates to arabs but somehow you always end up talking about arabs. And I wish you had the brains to at least enlighten us on the arab question, instead all you do is pass gas and fart uncontrollably like some old gossiping granny..."someone told me...."
I wish you'd stop with the stupid arab cliches... even the oil doesn't benefit the whole of the arabs, only a small fraction of the total arab population are seeing any real benefit..the majority of them are still living landless, wandering the desert...stop don't fret angry desi boy. I can't believe a racist like you actually goes to western university ...which houses so many arabs...especially lebanese and palestinians. Not all arabs live in the desert my ignorant friend.

prej·u·dice

   /ˈprɛdʒədɪs/ Show Spelled [prej-uh-dis] Show IPA noun, verb, -diced, -dic·ing.
–noun 1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.

2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.

3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, especially of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.






I spit on your education likewise, hater.

[Toramana]

what is with you and your arab obsession?

Seek help dude.


No one was even talking about arabs...nothing in this thread even remotely relates to arabs but somehow you always end up talking about arabs. And I wish you had the brains to at least enlighten us on the arab question, instead all you do is pass gas and fart uncontrollably like some old gossiping granny..."someone told me...."
I wish you'd stop with the stupid arab cliches... even the oil doesn't benefit the whole of the arabs, only a small fraction of the total arab population are seeing any real benefit..the majority of them are still living landless, wandering the desert...stop don't fret angry desi boy. I can't believe a racist like you actually goes to western university ...which houses so many arabs...especially lebanese and palestinians. Not all arabs live in the desert my ignorant friend.

prej·u·dice

   /ˈprɛdʒədɪs/ Show Spelled [prej-uh-dis] Show IPA noun, verb, -diced, -dic·ing.
–noun 1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.

2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.

3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, especially of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.






I spit on your education likewise, hater.

I wanted to give you an example ....in an effort to underline the ludicrousy of your assertion (i.e. 400 years back India was a power)...If West is responsible for the poverty of India (India is the 4th biggest economy) then who is responsible for the comparative prosperity of the Beduine?

It depends on the mode of economy and productive skills of the populace...

[ComradePashtun]

And there is nothing wrong with daal....It is just a food...Same can be said of other foods...Btw...Pukhtunkhwa Pukhtuns are heavy on meet...In our Swat we eat a lot of rice ...rice in dinner difinitely...that is why it is said "Swatian zara sho kho pa wrijo mara na sho..."

Bretheren, I don't know about you and other true moutain Pashtuns but I know so called Pashtuns from Sawabi, Peshawar, Marsan etc. And believe me a mouse portion of daal and rooti (Indian bread) is their staple diet. Boyakashaaaa. They smell heavy from masala and have almost 80% true Hindu characterstic. They are also skinny and agile. lol To top it they speak polluted Pashtu with Indian accent Daz dooz terrr perrr.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I think some of judgmental behavior is unnecessary. First of all, history is never black and white. Qayyum khan was from a british lackey party but he had his few good moments (we can't take that away). It is easy to make huge idalogical statements sitting on a computer, a little tougher when we need to implement the changes. Secondly, Comrade wrora although the swabaii mardan dialect has its quirks, you are being unfair to them....the ones I know are very good people, very watanpal pashtuns.

[Alchemist]

I wanted to give you an example ....in an effort to underline the ludicrousy of your assertion (i.e. 400 years back India was a power)...If West is responsible for the poverty of India (India is the 4th biggest economy) then who is responsible for the comparative prosperity of the Beduine?

It depends on the mode of economy and productive skills of the populace...

You are a hopeless case dude...

how many times did scimitar try to educate you on what the word "arab" means but you seem to think that "Arab" means only bedouins with oil money. FOOL! out of a population of 15 million in Saudi Arabia only 5 million are living the bling bling life that you are so jealous of....but then consider the fact that 30 million of the chiniese population are MILLIONAIRES...imagine that! That is the population of canada. But could you say that the average chinese man is relatively more well off than the average canadian? (Even though the average canadian family is 100K in debt...but thats a totally different issue that relates to inflationary calculations that are too complex for a bottom feeder like you to grasp...I mean after all you are just a grad student).
You are so ignorant of arabs and their culture and history that every time you talk about them you make as much sense as a black and blind KKK preacher.
The arabs that lived by the gulf coast were expert pearl divers and fishermen...the arabs that lived in the swamps between the tigres and the euphrates and the nile were farmers no different than your clan's major occupation...forget about the arabs that travelled in large caravans across the deserts and the seas ...in similar fashion. WTF!!! WHy am I talking about ARABS! Curse you toromana...you arab obsessed prejudiced self hating pakistani....

...look kid forget about the arabs... 700 years ago europe was going through the dark ages...the conditions you described for the arabs was nothing to the condition of the average british who lived in a small house with 20 other families...each of the couples had to take half hour turns on the weekend for "procreation" activities. My point wasn't to "compare" economies against each other...had you used your dull brain you'd have realized that I was talking about india before and after british raj...ur just itching to bring the comparison to arabs because probably some arab bullied you in highschool and now you are emotionally scarred for life.

[Wrayun]

We have Mantu Khors on one side and Daal Khors on the other. It is however, unfair to associate such delicious food to these people.

I love Mantu, made esply by Hazaragi people, and of course, Punjaabis make the best chana daal ever.

[gadoonwal]

amir abdurahman himself was british agent closed his eyes and sold more then half of his land to britishe for four hundered thousands ponds.
here is an info for another sold out afghan converted to british founded religion qadianis/ahmadishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahibzada
Sahibzada Abdul Latif (1853 – July 14, 1903), an Afghan of Khost He was born in Sayed Ga of Tani District in Khost Province, Afghanistan in 1853, to Sahibzada Mohmmad Shareef. He had two brothers, Sahibzada Abdul Aziz and Sahibzada Abdul Haleef. He is often called the Sayyed-ul-Shuhada (leader of the Martyrs) within the Ahmadiyya Community.
Sahibzada Abdul Latif was called Raees-e-Kabul (wealthiest of Kabul). He used to own 400,000 kanals of land in Tani in Khost and belonged to village Sayed Ga in Khost. He knew the languages of Arabic, Persian, Pushto and was a learned man. He had visited Hoshiarpur and frequented Deoband Markaz in Hyderabad India.
He was the Royal Advisor on the European influence in Afghanistan to both Amir Abdur Rahman Khan, 1880 to 1901 and to his son Amir Habibullah Khan, 1901–1919, The Kings of Afghanistan. Sahibzada Abdul Latif was an eminent member of the Ulama of Afghanistan. He had great influence on the kings of Afghanistan and its darbar; as claimed by Sahibzada Zahoor Ahmad, he had the honour to place the Afghan amir's crown on the head of Amir Habibullah Khan himself on the eve of his coronation in 1901 .[1]
He claimed to be the direct descendant of the renowned Islamic saint Data Ganj Baksh, who is buried in Lahore.
He heard about Mirza Ghulam Ahmadof Qadian when Mirza claimed to be the 'Promised Messiah' and Mahdi and established Ahmadiyya Movement on 23 March 1889.
As he was in the king's court, he could not go himself so he sent his colleague and friend Maulvi Abd ur-Rahman to Qadian, which is near Gurdaspur Punjab.
Maulvi Abd ur-Rahman returned after having pledged his allegiance to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian and joining Ahmadi Movement, bringing with him some books written by Mirza and his Ahmadi Movement's publications from Qadian for him to read. He became Ahmadi after reading this book.
In 1902, Sahibzada Abdul Latif himself visited Qadian near Gurdaspur after he took permission from Amir Habibullah Khan, for Haj to Mecca but Instead, he went to Qadian on his way and he publicly announced his allegiance, to the Ahmadiyya movement publicly offering Bay'ah to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, which he did not before.[2]
He was able to convert before 1902: many Tribes men of Tani in the province of Khost of Afghanistan started to become Ahmadi, which enabled him to earn the ire and punishment of death by stoning from Amir Habibullah Khan.
The final nail in the coffin was placed after he published an article about the peculiar and signature, Ahmadiyya's views on jihad in Kabul. He banned jihad against the British occupiers, who were supposedly enemies of Afghans.
He was sentenced to death by Amir Habibullah Khan on 14 July 1903. On 14 July 1903, he was stoned to death and killed after he was buried half underground by the order of Amir Habibullah Khan of Afghanistan for belonging to the Ahmadiyya movement and opposing jihad against British. He is the second recognized martyr of the Ahmadi community. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad has written Books on him and his killing.
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• 1 Persecution of Ahmadis in Afghanistan
• 2 Durand Line
• 3 See also
• 4 References
• 5 Further reading
• 6 External links

[edit] Persecution of Ahmadis in Afghanistan

The killing of Ahmadies in Kabul started in 1901 and then continued intermittently till 1924.[3] Since then, no more Ahmadis are left in Afghanistan or reported, but a possibility of their existence exists.[4]
The Maulvi Abdur Rehaman was also condemned to death by Habibullah Khan and had to run to Turkistan, near China, but came back after his family members were jailed by Amir Habibullah Khan.[5]
In fact, Prince Nasrullah Khan, the brother of Amir Habibullah Khan, was also angry at him for being blasphemous, Ahmadi, and pro-British. The Ahmadis regard his role as instrumental in convincing Amir Habibullah Khan to punish him and court clergy was also in favour of killing him.
The Ahmadi community claims turmoil occurred in Afghnistan because of Great Game from 1903 onwards like the Third Afghan War of 1919, to overthrow of Amir Amanullah Khan in 1929 and then in 1979 the Operation Cyclone, of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, and the famous Afghan Jihad/Fourth Afghan War, or the Soviet war in Afghanistan, when Afghans and the Mujahideen fought with Soviet Union known as Operation Cyclone, the later the 2001 War on Terror, when USA bombed Afghanistan and created its bases, is because of wrath of God after the killing of Sahibzada Abdul Latif and Maulivi Abdur Rehman Ahmadi. As they claim it, is wrath of God that is punishing them for that particular blood letting of Ahmadis as millions of Afghans have lost their lives in all the Great Game wars.
About three million Afghan people died in Operation Cyclone and millions more later by the Pakistan-sponsored Taliban rule 1994-2001 and then by the USA Great Game, War Effort, later in the 2001, also Known as the Fifth Afghan War. Which was fought as, the War on Terror when millions lost their lives as result of US Aerial Bombings and Continue to do so.
The Ahmadi community claim that cholera broke out in Afghanistan immediately after killing of Sahibzada Abdul Latif, which killed family of the brother of Amir Habibullah Khan Prince Nasrullah Khan and many others after the water sources were infected.
Prince Nasrullah Khan was in jail after he was accused of killing Amir Habibullah Khan at a hunting trip. Ahmadis believe this to be curse of God after killing of Sahibzada Abdul Latif.[6]
_Abdul_

[gadoonwal]

sahibzadgans played a great role along with their durani counterparts in durandline to please their angreez master.
abdul qayum was belong to british pml(muslim league) and ofcourse their agent.
But at least he did something good for pashtuns by building IC in pekhawar.

[gadoonwal]

Bretheren, I don't know about you and other true moutain Pashtuns but I know so called Pashtuns from Sawabi, Peshawar, Marsan etc. And believe me a mouse portion of daal and rooti (Indian bread) is their staple diet. Boyakashaaaa. They smell heavy from masala and have almost 80% true Hindu characterstic. They are also skinny and agile. lol To top it they speak polluted Pashtu with Indian accent Daz dooz terrr perrr.

so have a good time with your iranain/parsiwan master then.
The above areas are the power base of pashtun nationalism . i am gharsanai pashtun from the mountain of gadoon and would only support the true pashtun state of pashtunistan.We do not want farsiwans and punjabis our masters anymore.
chetori,khobi,ako,bako no need.

[ComradePashtun]

Haha lol my farsiwan masters. Za hets cha ta hum tan nwarkawum andiwala. ma da farsiwanoo pa salgoono kaloono mastery aw da Hindwanuu imaamat karray dae. Doozee mawala.