Whats with Atheist pukhtane

[BarakzaiAbdali]

BarakzaiAbdali, you are living in an abstract/utopian world hard of existance or any rational explanation. In this surreal world of your imagination, Islamist piety rules all over and Pashtun emulates the proverbial murd-i-momin model of Islam almost to perfection ...to which someday you would return as an advisor-king to help it assume its God-ordained role of the revival of Ummah...Obviously, those who think in the 6th Century intellecual paradigm, time is either stand still /arrested or things are reversible to the ancient order...so Pashtuns (a society in its primordial state in your opinion) have neither changed nor corrupted by modernization to a degree to be non-purable....

I sometimes really petty on you...You are analysing others but can't see how self-deceptive/self-deluding your own utopia are...and how much have you fallen to that...My advice to you is, if you are affiliated with any pan-Islamist puritonist revivalist movement, disassociate from it as soon as you can ...The problem with such movements is, they isolate you from the ideological currents and countercurrents in your environment and shape you into some one living entirely into a Dar-ul-Harb versus Dar-ul-Islam type of binary world where goodness is pitched against evil...

After you have done that, go to Pukhtunkhwa and see for yourself, how Pashtuns really are and what tides carry them away ..My advise to you will be, to go to Karkhanai to see for yourself how do they conduct themselves in business ...Just short of Landi-Kotal by the roadside, see for yourself bars where they openly sell vodka and whisky...Go to any Pashtun Hujra and watch the elders and youngsters how devily do they swear at each other... and hatch conspiracies against each other...Next go to any court to see what evil things are their legal fights over...

Ask any Pashtun running contraband busness...and he may also tell you he wants Islam....But what is his concept of Islam !...His concept of Isalm is, a system and society where there are mosques but no mullahs to police him or forbid him from running his profitable business...Roam around in the bazar and see how lustfully Pashtuns look at other people sisters and daughters...Next, go to any educational insitution and ask the academia and students what is their understanding of Islamic system...

All in all, you would reach one conclusion...that is, most Pashtuns want some vague concept of Islam that is either remote from their practical lives or that can be twisted and re-twisted to accommodate/sanction their worldly desires, lusts, and greed...

This Pashtun society as an Islamic society is a figment of your imagination and a projection of your own utopia caused by your circumstances and environment....

Oh Toramana, repeating the same canard of Pan islamism again in a new way does not make it true.

Perhaps if you pray for it enough the charge will stick!

[graveyardofempires]

Yeah, well they exist, always have, and always will. What are you gonna do about it, kill them? Good luck doing that. You can kill people, but you can't kill ideas. Those ideas will always be there.

Kill them? is that an attempt to shut down criticism and stereotype people according to Fox news mentality?

its not a probem to me what you want to believe as far as im concerned you can believe in a pile of horse ****.
why does it hurt you when i say Pashtuns are 99.99% muslims and no they do not agree with what you are saying.

Now, beloved brother, just because your parents and other dear elders sheltered you so much that they denied you exposure to people who are different from you, including those who completely reject your religious doctrines, albeit for very good reasons, doesn't even slightly mean that those people don't exist. Meaning, just because you don't know or have never met or come across Pukhtuns who are not Muslims doesn't mean they don't exist or don't matter. Even if they're less than 2% of the entire population, they matter -- as much as you and I and the rest of us matter.

what are you even talking about?
you are spewing ignorance,i wasnt denied anything,matter of fact i have many friends who are atheist (as they think) and have no problem with them what so ever ,here we are talking abotu Pukhtunkhwa and Afghanistan.like i said i have no problem you being atheists ,im talking about your bias towards pukhtane.

And so what that they're a minority? So what that they will never be able to "convert" the rest of the Pukhtun race to their way of life or to their beliefs? Honestly, I think the more you try to prevent them from expressing themselves, be it their religious beliefs, and the more you deny that they exist and are as much Pukhtun as YOU are, the more strength you give them to fight for their existence and for their right to be, their right to believe or disbelieve.

i dont care you can express your self as you wish ,go run around naked if you like. we are talking about Afghanistan and pukhtunkhwa and the ground reality over there and not what your wishes are.
converting them to atheism? well atleast you should be honest about it and not be so sneaky.

Oh, and ... dude, just because YOU think that "Pukhtaney" = Muslim doesn't mean that's how it really is or that's how it should be. Besides, that always raises the question: What does it mean to be a Muslim, and what constitutes Muslimhood? If you look around here on this forum alone, there are so many religious differences among the Muslims, even among those who claim to be "just" following God and His Prophet, and almost all of them go around telling each other they're not Muslim or are not equally guided! One can only wish that things were as simple as Pukhtun = Muslim.

One can only wish Pukhtane will be followers of Athesim and believe me that wish will never ever come true.
so be the atheist you are just know the ground realities that Pukhtane in no way needs what you want for them.

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[graveyardofempires]

its funny how these "pukhtun" atheist have been posting anti muslim propaganda and yet they seem to say they care about Pukhtane who are extreme majority muslims.

you dont respect their way of life and expect them to respect you? that doesnt make any sense.the funny part is you guys are trying to give the impression that you are somehow enlightend and are trying to play a monopoly and say things such as "oh you are using a computer and dont agree with atheism".
if you want to be respected than you should also have respect for majority Pukhtane people way of life and stop pushing your religion down their throat.

calling people names such as wahabi(codeword) only exposes your own illl intetions.

[graveyardofempires]

guys now you know why these atheists are never satisfied with Pukhtane as you can see their propaganda attacks are being carried on.