6 billions...Now go read it...May be you find something useful there i.e. you are not that important/inevitable for any society, including the West...Ho, this self-image of inevitability...yes the West couldn't do without a people below-mediocracy in every sense of the word whether technology, science, skills, or plain common sense...
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True - but i was trying to, crudely as it may have sounded, to get across to these clowns that you don't have to bend over backwards to anyone or comprise yourself in any way and relinquish any values you stand for any country. These clowns like to always play the "go back to XYZ you jihadi, terrorist,freedom-hating punk" card.Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View PostKhyberKhan ...even if you were not "invited" by the west, so what? All the alleged freedoms "afforded" by the west are illusory; most of the migrational pattern to western societies is a product of disturbance of the natural equilibrium that people have in their respective environments; caused by western intrusion; they have in fact robbed people of their freedom, not granted it. By robbing their intrinsic relationships that're robbing people of the very thing that gives them life. That's the greatest crime ever, worse than any internal issue or conflict the Taliban may produce.
It's as though they have rehearsed the far-rights script.
Edge, I've watched this movie before and i know the plot very well.
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Originally posted by KhyberKhan View PostTrue - but i was trying to, crudely as it may have sounded, to get across to these clowns that you don't have to bend over backwards to anyone or comprise yourself in any way and relinquish any values you stand for any country. These clowns like to always play the "go back to XYZ you jihadi, terrorist,freedom-hating punk" card.
It's as though they have rehearsed the far-rights script.
Edge, I've watched this movie before and i know the plot very well.
Of course when ever you legitimately criticize Secular capitalist system,the likes of Bayghairat (Baygham) and Toraranga (Kamzoramana peddle the "love it or leave it" argument as a scapegoat.
but yet then they say they want to IMPOSE the secular capitalist industrial garbage dump over East, it's not enough for people to leave these countries; they want to Bring theese Institutions over back home; they wont rest until the world is under it's domination.
My question for them if they hate the way things in Pashtunkhwah are; then WHY don't they get out and STAY OUT.
They forget the whole reason any of us are here is precisely BECAUSE what these secular societies have destablized and distorted the entire Planet (not just mIddle east or Muslim countries) but the ENTIRE GLOBE from functioning without complying to their Socioeconomic order or coming to their societies. They brought this on everyone so people will conform to their ways; but now it's backfired and people are more resistant and it's upsetting them; these Uncle Tom varieties are merely tryiing to keep their masters happy, they know what we're saying is legitimate.Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 02-24-2011, 05:47 PM.
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Toramana, the thread was over two pages ago - please quit trying to redeem yourself. Back to the drawing board my son or the secular blogs where you use supererogatory loquacious prose (btw, see what i did there?) to try and impress fellow bed-wetters. Unfortunately, your "western" education has let you down on this occasion.Originally posted by Toramana View Post6 billions...Now go read it...May be you find something useful there i.e. you are not that important/inevitable for any society, including the West...Ho, this self-image of inevitability...yes the West couldn't do without a people below-mediocracy in every sense of the word whether technology, science, skills, or plain common sense...
Tut tut.

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If you want to live in illusions, that is another thing but the plain and the bare fact is, Muslims, including the Islamist zealots like many on this forum, has come to the West in hope of good life. Now as happens with immigrants the greater chances are, within three or at most four generations, your offspring would be Westerners in terms of values and culture.Originally posted by KhyberKhan View PostTrue - but i was trying to, crudely as it may have sounded, to get across to these clowns that you don't have to bend over backwards to anyone or comprise yourself in any way and relinquish any values you stand for any country. These clowns like to always play the "go back to XYZ you jihadi, terrorist,freedom-hating punk" card.
It's as though they have rehearsed the far-rights script.
Edge, I've watched this movie before and i know the plot very well.
So if you want to preserve your values and save your offspring from westernization, now is your chance to go back to where you belong. But we know, neither you nor your offspring can go back and re-settle/re-adjust...
The contention of clowns like us is that, let the society back home be based on a little rational grounds (not religious zealotism) so our future generations don't have to immigrate mere for better life and don't have to go through the pain of adapting to another culture or suffer from identity crisis....
Believe me the West doesn't need us...India alone can provide all the work-force it needs not to mention China, South America, Afirica, Eastern Europe, without any risk of importation of suicidal tendencies....So, we Muslims are not inevitable for them ...
It is better we let the Muslims here live in peace and grow...Hate talk against local values, systems would aggravate things for us...Last edited by Toramana; 02-24-2011, 09:39 PM.
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