Pakistani Army Beating Pashtun Elderly In Prison

[graveyardofempires]

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but again if durrand line is here there probably wont be peace.
the whole problem of taliban and pro army and ANP is because of durrand line.

how can pashtuns grow stronger in Afghanistan whent their number is going down due to the war?

and what makes you think these pro pakistani establishment blinded pashtuns will let us progress towards the destruction of durrand line?

[graveyardofempires]

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you think they will let you in peace for a decade
pakistani establishment want you to forget your right of reunification with your ancestral lands and at the same time want to convert you to this pakistani culture of corruption.

offcourse if there is peace in Afghanistan alot of problems will be solved but this is not only about Afghanistan as we can see that people in pukhtunkhwa are seeing pakistani influence as corrupting.

just look at the police in pukhtunkhwa,they are saome of the most corrupt individuals apart from the government employees.
offcourse there is a reason why they are corrupt,because they are paid very low.

i think if there was no durrand line we could have helped the victims of those natural disasters much quicker as we know pakistani president was in england trying to slime to david cameron because he visitd india and not pakistan.

we could have fire departments and reliable police force and regulated health organisations.how can we have that when urdu is pushed upon pukhtunkhwa,how can Pashtuns communicate when they need to do it in urdu?

[ScimitarXEdge]

that guy being beaten is taliban. why do you defend him?

firstly; where in the video is there proof that he's a Taliban?

secondly even if he is a Taliban where does it justify beating prisoners/suspects in detention, especially without an adequate trial and justice to prove his guilt?

[qunduz92]

them being taliban is complete bs. if you watch the video until the end, the animals are beating 80 year white-bearded pakhtane.

these savages don't even have self-restraint against our elderly.

there were no taliban in this video.

they do not have the strength it takes to capture taliban, so they prey on the innocent and weak.

[qunduz92]

Discussed !!

if you were there in an army uniform receiving orders to beat them, i bet you would as well?

these savages we see are your type of people right?

[Shehbaz Khan]

if you were there in an army uniform receiving orders to beat them, i bet you would as well?

these savages we see are your type of people right?

Pakhairoona Qunduz Saib,

If I may not be a hypocrite the answer to your first question is YES. As these soldiers are taught nothing but to obey orders and that's it.

Now coming back to the point, search for such topics in the political section .. We have done lengthy debates over the issue, I won't start another one here as I think I can't do justice to the debate due to lack of time.

Haven't you heard about what talibans did to the common people of Swat? What was their behavior towards old men, kids, men and especially the females? Now you will say even if he is a Talib he doesn't deserve to be punished in that way, Right? I agree with you under normal circumstances no body should be punished in that way. But that over there is a war zone, you need quick information to hit the enemy else you will be hitted. So try to understand the circumstances. If these Soldiers would have asked him to share what he knows about the Talibans on a table having tea with them, what you say they would have given them the information?

The folks from Swat over here will tell you that ISPR distributed it's numbers and told the common masses to report against those who were seen with Talibans or who were helping them. These are the people reported by the Swatians.


Now, finally let me seal it I say IF HE WAS THE ONE HELPING THE TALIBANS OR WAS ONE OF THEM HE DESERVED THIS PUNISHMENT. IF HE WAS INNOCENT THESE SOLDIERS ARE RESPONSIBLE AND THEY NEED TO BE TREATED LIKE THIS.