Pro Pakistan VS Anti Pakistan

[MazloomyarMaseed]

my point here is not protecting anyone, i am talking about the influence of tribal leaders. Anyway overthrowing Amnulla khan did not do any good, which brought Bachae SAqao to the power, as a result another british puppet nadir Shah was installed.

Which tribal elders do you speak of? are you just reffering to the ones in the tribal areas of Pashtunkhwa or in Afghanistan?

[Khan]

I am against the government not the people.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

I am against the government not the people.

Who is speaking about people, we are speaking about Pakistan as an ideology which i consider as a deviant ideology invented by a non muslim.

[Khan]

Who is speaking about people, we are speaking about Pakistan as an ideology which i consider as a deviant ideology invented by a non muslim.

In reference to the topic I stated my general opinion of what I thought. I did not go through the discussion in the previous pages.

The Govt is working for its people.

Whats wrong with that?

I would have been really glad if it did only that. But behind the curtain the government is playing its political cat and mouse games with Afghanistan.

[Khan]

^ Long story.

Inshort, how Pakistan's ISI played with Afghans fate along CIA. That is what I am talking about.

[Khan]

^ Is its best interest interfering in others internal affairs? If yes I consider that a problem. It takes a lot of courage and guts to accept the truth. Even your fellow Pakistanis agree with what I wrote above and I'm not saying that for the sake of an argument, I'm saying it because I have lived between your fellow Pakistanis in Pakistan for more than half of my life.

[Khan]

^ I did write it earlier ISI and CIA. Since the topic was about Anti or Pro Pakistan I named Pakistan's ISI. and yes Iran does it too. I'm not its gov. pro either. I hate it as much as I hate Pakistan's government.

As for your second line, it gave me a big laugh. It sounds like burning someone else's home for the sake of your own house's warmness.

[Khan]

As long ISI, CIA, MI6 are there nosing in our internal affairs I don't think it would be possible. I already wrote that even your own Pakistanis admit ISI's interference in Afghan internal affairs for decades with usual excuse being 'because of India'.

A little neutral study of history on Afghan-Pakistan's political relationship won't harm.

Thanks

[SwatiTheBrave1]

Pakistan is using it as a proxy.

And why they are being used as a proxy , dont they have any realization towards this matter ?

[SwatiTheBrave1]

I am highly disappointed by some posters who are against pakistan .

Look Pakistan and Govt of pakistan are two different matters , What Pakistan has done for Afghans/Pashtuns is greater than what they haven't done for them.

40 Million Afghan Pashuts are living a peacefull life in Pakistan don't you people see that ??

Pakistanis have given them homes , jobs , food , facilities and they enjoy every single civil right that you can think of !

Pakistan has fought a whole F-uking war for Pashtuns against USSR , International communities accept it but few of you dont because it wont fit your Pashtuniat and since you have been getting bread and butter from your Hindu friends its even less likely.

FATA/Waziristan.

FATA is full of terrorists and most of those are pashtuns motivated by an Hindu fed idealogy doing bombings all over pakistan.

Shame on those who talk about FATA where Pakistan Army is fighting against the terrorists and destroying terror camps and their breeding fanatical grounds.

Those are Terrorists who have killed over 40 thousand innocent Pakistanis in the cold Blood , they deserve to be Killed and we will keep fighting them till they are all gone !!

Drone attacks

USA is carrying out drone attacks on daily basis and killing civilians everyday in the presence of a Spineless coward Govt in Islamabad.

You people dont talk about what US is doing to Pashtuns or whoever you consider yourself.


Love or Leave

I know many of you are born in Pakistan and your background is afghan muhajireens who fled to Pakistan because they were getting killed in Afghanistan.

Let me ask you a question , You were born in Pakistan , grown up here , you got educated , got a job , make money to support your family which also resides in Pakistan.

You liked everything that was in your favors , you liked everything what Pakistan gave you but STILL you Hate Pakistan !!!
Why do you do so because you have never accepted the fact that you were Pakistanis , you never wanted to !

Now you sit somewhere in Pakistan on your computer and writting against a Nation which gave you refuge when your ancestors sold their country to russians.

Whoever you are today , you are because of Pakistan so either Become a Pakistani and embrace it as your country or Leave it and dont live your life as a Munafiq and a Traitor .!!

Blood and tears

Many of the people here complain about Pakistan army and Pashtuns , lets face it Pakistan army's job is to protect a country and not a Community be it Pashtuns or whoever.

And STOP golrifying Terrorists in Waziristan , those who do crimes in the streets of Pakistan and then go and sit in the caves to escape Justice.
Why do you people defend criminals ??

Pakistanis as a whole love and adore their Afghan brothers no matter which language they speak or what their ethnic background is , we dont care who you are not , we just care who you are !

Pakistan or India

Pashtuns(Afghans) Must choose between who they want to be with and then stick to it !

They should stop playing their hypocratic games against Pakistan if they choose Hindus as their saviours.

As a consequence Afghanistan would never get a chance to trade through Pakistani seas as they used to do in the past and we will send back every single Afghan migrant back to where they belong.

So Make your choice .


One Pakistan

Pakistan is a gift From Allah SWT for Muslims and this country wont consider any ethnic divide or superiority.
Pakistan will Remain what it is meant to be , and whoever will try to harm it will be dealing with our Iron fists.

If you still are an Anti Pakistan (Yet sitting in Pakistan) then i must say that you are Not different from Mir Jafir or Yazeed.

Pakistan Paindabad !!


Regards:

[SwatiTheBrave1]

^So Pakistan can do its strategic depth. Pakistan needs Afghanistan help against India. They cant do it alone, since India is a booming power.

We dont need afghan support , they should look after themselves first.

We have dealt with India for over 60 years and we can do it again.

Thanks for the offer , just dont stab our back !!!

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I am highly disappointed by some posters who are against pakistan .

Look Pakistan and Govt of pakistan are two different matters , What Pakistan has done for Afghans/Pashtuns is greater than what they haven't done for them.

40 Million Afghan Pashuts are living a peacefull life in Pakistan don't you people see that ??

Pakistanis have given them homes , jobs , food , facilities and they enjoy every single civil right that you can think of !

Pakistan has fought a whole F-uking war for Pashtuns against USSR , International communities accept it but few of you dont because it wont fit your Pashtuniat and since you have been getting bread and butter from your Hindu friends its even less likely.

FATA/Waziristan.

FATA is full of terrorists and most of those are pashtuns motivated by an Hindu fed idealogy doing bombings all over pakistan.

Shame on those who talk about FATA where Pakistan Army is fighting against the terrorists and destroying terror camps and their breeding fanatical grounds.

Those are Terrorists who have killed over 40 thousand innocent Pakistanis in the cold Blood , they deserve to be Killed and we will keep fighting them till they are all gone !!

Drone attacks

USA is carrying out drone attacks on daily basis and killing civilians everyday in the presence of a Spineless coward Govt in Islamabad.

You people dont talk about what US is doing to Pashtuns or whoever you consider yourself.


Love or Leave

I know many of you are born in Pakistan and your background is afghan muhajireens who fled to Pakistan because they were getting killed in Afghanistan.

Let me ask you a question , You were born in Pakistan , grown up here , you got educated , got a job , make money to support your family which also resides in Pakistan.

You liked everything that was in your favors , you liked everything what Pakistan gave you but STILL you Hate Pakistan !!!
Why do you do so because you have never accepted the fact that you were Pakistanis , you never wanted to !

Now you sit somewhere in Pakistan on your computer and writting against a Nation which gave you refuge when your ancestors sold their country to russians.

Whoever you are today , you are because of Pakistan so either Become a Pakistani and embrace it as your country or Leave it and dont live your life as a Munafiq and a Traitor .!!

Blood and tears

Many of the people here complain about Pakistan army and Pashtuns , lets face it Pakistan army's job is to protect a country and not a Community be it Pashtuns or whoever.

And STOP golrifying Terrorists in Waziristan , those who do crimes in the streets of Pakistan and then go and sit in the caves to escape Justice.
Why do you people defend criminals ??

Pakistanis as a whole love and adore their Afghan brothers no matter which language they speak or what their ethnic background is , we dont care who you are not , we just care who you are !

Pakistan or India

Pashtuns(Afghans) Must choose between who they want to be with and then stick to it !

They should stop playing their hypocratic games against Pakistan if they choose Hindus as their saviours.

As a consequence Afghanistan would never get a chance to trade through Pakistani seas as they used to do in the past and we will send back every single Afghan migrant back to where they belong.

So Make your choice .


One Pakistan

Pakistan is a gift From Allah SWT for Muslims and this country wont consider any ethnic divide or superiority.
Pakistan will Remain what it is meant to be , and whoever will try to harm it will be dealing with our Iron fists.

If you still are an Anti Pakistan (Yet sitting in Pakistan) then i must say that you are Not different from Mir Jafir or Yazeed.

Pakistan Paindabad !!


Regards:

Maa dartha wael da ghaflath pa khob weeda yae kho na manae da zaan na lgaya yae. USSR jang mae dartha makhkae owael che daa da Amreekae ao communist jang wo ao da Afghanaan pa weena loba waa. Brzezinski interviews ao leekal ogoraa. Ao Pakistan khilaaf khalk yazeed saraa ma baraabarawaa...Khudae tha ogoraa, aksariyath ulema da Pakistan jorraedo khilaaf woo. Kho thaso tharikh na walolae ao bartha noro tha paighour kawaee.
Norae khabarae dae asae ttokae ao propagandae dee. Lag pakhtano tharikh ogoraa ao bya khabarae kawaa. Ao ka domra islamii daa nu maatha daleel wokhaaewaa. Manana

Oh and I would aprreciate if you would reply to me in pashto. Manana

[SwatiTheBrave1]

Pakistan is dependent on Afghanistan, Even the Army general wants a friendly Afghanistan..

We are not dependent on Afghanistan my friend , we have World's 6th Largest Nuclear equipped Millitary , over a Million strong.

We have had requests to help Train Afghanistan Army and Air force , special units.

As for having a friendly Afghanistan is concerned then yes every Pakistani would like to see afghanistan as a trustworthy friendly nation.

Afghanistan has no access to sea , Pakistan would help them by giving them access to our sea ports for trade if they kept on with us.

Regards:

[SwatiTheBrave1]

Maa dartha wael da ghaflath pa khob weeda yae kho na manae da zaan na lgaya yae. USSR jang mae dartha makhkae owael che daa da Amreekae ao communist jang wo ao da Afghanaan pa weena loba waa. Brzezinski interviews ao leekal ogoraa. Ao Pakistan khilaaf khalk yazeed saraa ma baraabarawaa...Khudae tha ogoraa, aksariyath ulema da Pakistan jorraedo khilaaf woo. Kho thaso tharikh na walolae ao bartha noro tha paighour kawaee.
Norae khabarae dae asae ttokae ao propagandae dee. Lag pakhtano tharikh ogoraa ao bya khabarae kawaa. Ao ka domra islamii daa nu maatha daleel wokhaaewaa. Manana

Oh and I would aprreciate if you would reply to me in pashto. Manana

You are on my Ignore list.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

You are on my Ignore list.

No it is just that you can't reply back in pashto that is all. :-P