Terrorism In Pakistan And Afghanistan..Causes and solutions

[Badlun]

Terrorism is now the most important global, regional and national issue. Lots of information on the definition of terrorism, its causes and solution is avaialble in internet , media and other resources.

I would like to tackle this issue with the help of the knowledgable members of this forum on more creative, original and pragmatic grounds. A document may be prepared here in such a manner which may not only be useful but also convincing to the extent that policy makers and implementers may refer to this document as a helpful resource when they plan to tackle the issue of terrorism.

We may keep international standards of preparation and presentation while discussing this issue. The language should not be that of light discussions or chats rather it should be more scholarly and impressive. Objective analysis with facts and figures will be highly appreciated. We may concentrate on the regions of Afghansitan and Pakistan but other regions like Iraq, Colombia , Srilanka may also be referred in case required.

We may develop a comprehensive research paper here which should be useful for all stock holders in the phenomenon of Terrorism like Pakistani and Afghan Army. ISI, KHAD, other Pakistani and Afghan intelligence agencies and Ministries, Presidencies etc, USA, CIA , ISAF, NATO, Taliban, Al qaeda,Arabs, wahabis. religious exremists and fundamentalists, Pashtun nationalist leaders , Secular parties and persons and all other concerned.

We may define terrorism, its causes and solutions but in a creative original way as mere repitition of whatever already available may not serve the purpose.

We should write with the true spirit how this menace of terrorism can really be effaced. We must contribute our part in the war against terrorism.

[شمله ور خراساني]

America and its' allies, like NATO etc are terrorists.

How are you going to solve the problem of their global terrorism with a piece compiled by a few random people on a forum?


If you are intending to label all Muslims fighting for their rights and liberties in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Palestine, Chechenia etc as terrorists, then you are doing so to please the enemies of Islam.

And knowing you from your previous posts, I assume you are doing to just to defame those men who are in trenches right now protecting their land from invasion and opression.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

But the problem is, those guys fighting in the trenches may have another different objective than those who truely fight. We witnessed this in chechnya when, Nationalists first fought but then arab wahabis entered the scence and divided the cause and then turned chechen against chehcne which led to a mass diversion towards the russian side. As majority of chechens are sufi, they felt threatened to an Wahabi invasion of their land.

That is just my opinion

[Badlun]

Good approach to resolve the menace of terrorism and militancy

MINGORA, Aug 23: The army has rehabilitated 60 more former militants after they renounced militancy and underwent a three months training in different trades at the ‘Mishal centre for de-radicalisation’ in Phetaam area of Swat.

According to a news release issued on the occasion, the army has begun a de-radicalisation programme for 1,196 local people arrested for involvement in militancy.
Of them, 1,189 have undergone a three months training in various fields before reintegrating with the society.

http://dawn.com/news/1037920/60-former-militants-rehabilitated

[Badlun]

One of the cause of terrorism is extremism and Saudi is a state sponsoring extremism and terrorism.

I found it very surprizing

August 27, 2013
Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
A grim “urgent action memorandum” issued today from the office of President Putin to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is ordering a “massive military strike” against Saudi Arabia in the event that the West attacks Syria.
According to Kremlin sources familiar with this extraordinary “war order,” Putin became “enraged” after his early August meeting with Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan who warned that if Russia did not accept the defeat of Syria, Saudi Arabia would unleash Chechen terrorists under their control to cause mass death and chaos during the Winter Olympics scheduled to be held 7-23 February 2014 in Sochi, Russia.
Lebanese newspaper As-Safir confirmed this amazing threat against Russia saying that Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord by stating: “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us.”
Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on an off. “These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role in Syria’s political future.”
London’s The Telegraph News Service further reported today that Saudi Arabia has secretly offered Russia a sweeping deal to control the global oil market and safeguard Russia’s gas contracts, if the Kremlin backs away from the Assad regime in Syria, an offer Putin replied to by saying “Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters” [Putin said referring to footage showing a Jihadist rebel eating the heart and liver of a Syrian soldier HERE], and which Prince Bandar in turn warned that there can be “no escape from the military option” if Russia declines the olive branch.
Critical to note, and as we had previously reported on in our 28 January 2013 report “Obama Plan For World War III Stuns Russia,” the Federal Security Services (FSB) confirmed the validity of the released hacked emails of the British based defence company, Britam Defence that stunningly warned the Obama regime was preparing to unleash a series of attacks against both Syria and Iran in a move Russian intelligence experts warned could very well cause World War III.
According to this FSB report, Britam Defence, one of the largest private mercenary forces in the world, was the target of a “massive hack” of its computer files by an “unknown state sponsored entity” this past January who then released a number of critical emails between its top two executives, founder Philip Doughty and his Business Development Director David Goulding.
The two most concerning emails between Doughty and Goulding, this report says, states that the Obama regime has approved a “false flag” attack in Syria using chemical weapons, and that Britam has been approved to participate in the West’s warn on Iran, and as we can read:
Email 1: Phil, We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington. We’ll have to deliver a CW (chemical weapon) to Homs (Syria), a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion? Kind regards David
Email 2: Phil, Please see attached details of preparatory measures concerning the Iranian issue. Participation of Britam in the operation is confirmed by the Saudis.
With the events now spiraling out of control in Syria, and London’s Independent News Service now reporting that Prince Bandar is “pushing for war,” Russian foreign ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich further warned the West today by stating, “Attempts to bypass the Security Council, once again to create artificial groundless excuses for a military intervention in the region are fraught with new suffering in Syria and catastrophic consequences for other countries of the Middle East and North Africa.”
Heedless of Russian warnings which have fallen on deaf ears, however, British Prime Minister David Cameron this morning recalled the British Parliament to vote on attacking Syria as the Obama regime abruptly cancelled their meeting with Russia scheduled for tomorrow on finding a path to peace for Syria, and the West begins its plans to attack the Syrian nation “within days.”
As Syria itself has warned that should it be attacked by the West there will be “global chaos,” the Western peoples themselves have not been told of the fact that on 17 May 2013, Putin ordered Russian military forces to “immediately move” from Local War to Regional War operational status and to be “fully prepared” to expand to Large-Scale War should either the US or EU enter into the Syrian Civil War, a situation they are still in at this very hour.
With Putin’s previous order, and as we had reported on in our 17 May report “Russia Issues “All-Out War” Alert Over Syria,” and now combined with his new ordering of massive retaliatory strikes against Saudi Arabia, any attack on Syria is viewed by Russia as being an attack on itself.
And as we had previously explained in great detail, the fight over Syria, being led by Saudi Arabia and Qatar and their lap-dog Western allies, has but one single objective: To break Russia’s hold on the European Union natural gas market which a pipeline through Syria would accomplish, and as reported by London’s Financial Times News Service this past June:
“The tiny gas-rich state of Qatar has spent as much as $3bn over the past two years supporting the rebellion in Syria, far exceeding any other government, but is now being nudged aside by Saudi Arabia as the prime source of arms to rebels.
The cost of Qatar’s intervention, its latest push to back an Arab revolt, amounts to a fraction of its international investment portfolio. But its financial support for the revolution that has turned into a vicious civil war dramatically overshadows western backing for the opposition.
Qatar [also] has proposed a gas pipeline from the Gulf to Turkey in a sign the emirate is considering a further expansion of exports from the world's biggest gasfield after it finishes an ambitious programme to more than double its capacity to produce liquefied natural gas (LNG).”
And in what is, perhaps, the most unimaginable cause to start World War III over Syria was noted by Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman, Aleksandr Lukashevich who said this past week: “We’re getting more new evidence that this criminal act was of a provocative nature,” he stressed. “In particular, there are reports circulating on the Internet, in particular that the materials of the incident and accusations against government troops had been posted for several hours before the so-called attack. Thus, it was a pre-planned action.”
For the West to have so sloppily engineered yet another “false flag” attack to justify a war where they posted the videos of this so-called chemical weapons attack a full day before it was said to occur is the height of arrogance and disdain, but which their sleep-walking citizens, yet again, will fall for as they have done so many times in the past.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1699.htm

[Badlun]

Most wanted terrorist captured from hotel in Pakistan

Most wanted terrorist captured from hotel in Pakistan

http://dawn.com/news/1040288/most-wanted-terrorist-captured-from-hotel-in-pakistan/2

very very interesting..........so real although satire

[Badlun]

89% Pakistanis say suicide bombing is 'never justified': PEW report

89% Pakistanis say suicide bombing is 'never justified': PEW report



A new survey conducted by ‘Pew Research Center’ has found that as many as 89% of Pakistanis currently believe suicide bombings or other acts of violence targeting civilians are “never justified”. Another two percent stated they sometimes can be justified, while one percent stated they are “often” justified.
The survey reports opinions from 11 Muslim countries from face-to-face interviews of 8, 989 Muslims conducted during March 3 to April 7, 2013, across Egypt, Indonesia, Jordan, Lebanon, Malaysia, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Palestinian territories, Senegal, Tunisia and Turkey.
“Across 11 Muslim publics surveyed by the Pew Research Center, a median of 67% say they are somewhat or very concerned about Islamic extremism. In five countries – Pakistan, Jordan, Tunisia, Turkey and Indonesia – Muslim worries about extremism have increased in the past year.”

With respect to Pakistan, Pew reports overwhelmingly negative views of suicide bombing.
“Indeed, about three-quarters or more in Pakistan (89%), Indonesia (81%), Nigeria (78%) and Tunisia (77%), say suicide bombings or other acts of violence that target civilians are never justified.”
It also states that currently, an estimated 67% of Pakistanis are ‘concerned’ about the threat of Islamic extremism, which is an increase, compared with 58% in 2012.
The survey further says:
“Although substantial percentages in some countries do think suicide bombing is often or sometimes justified – including a 62% majority of Palestinian Muslims, overall support for violence in the name of Islam has declined among Muslim publics during the past decade.
On its research on the various pro-Islamic militant groups operating across the world, the survey yields:
“The Taliban are viewed negatively by a median of 51% of Muslims in the countries polled. Hezbollah and Hamas fare little better. Hezbollah, in particular, has seen its support slip in key Middle Eastern countries, including a 38 percentage point drop in favorable views among Egyptian Muslims since 2007.”
Islamic Extremism
Elsewhere on the globe, concern about Islamic extremism varied from country to country.
“In Indonesia, the Muslim public is evenly split: 48% concerned vs. 48% unconcerned. Turkey, meanwhile, is the only country surveyed where at least half of Muslims (51%) say they are not worried about Islamic extremism.”

“In Tunisia, six-in-ten Muslims are now very concerned, up from 42% saying the same a year ago…in the Palestinian territories, the proportion of Muslims worried about extremism has declined 14 percentage points since 2011, the last time the question was asked there.”
Suicide Bombing
In some countries, substantial minorities of Muslims say attacks on civilians are at least sometimes justified to defend Islam from its enemies; in the Palestinian territories, a majority of Muslims hold this view.

Half or more of Muslims in most countries surveyed say that suicide bombing and other acts of violence that target civilians can never be justified in the name of Islam. In Malaysia, however, roughly a quarter of Muslims (27%) take the view that attacks on civilians are sometimes or often justified.
More importantly, the report indicates that support for suicide bombing is not correlated with religious devoutness.
“Generally, Muslims who say they pray five times per day are no more likely to support targeting civilians to protect Islam than those who pray less often. The only exception is the Palestinian territories, where 66% of Muslims who pray five times per day say suicide bombing is often or sometimes justified versus 49% of those who pray less than five times per day.”
Extremist Groups
Overall, views of extremist groups are negative across the Muslim publics surveyed. A median of about a third or fewer have a positive view of Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Hamas, or Hezbollah. And in no country polled do any of these organizations receive majority Muslim support.
In Pakistan, most of the candidates surveyed offered no opinion on this front, though amongst those who did, most people were against the groups.

Al Qaeda
46% Pakistanis are against the organisation whereas 13% are in favour of it, with 41% choosing not to offer an opinion.
However, in Palestine, positive ratings of Al Qaeda have ticked up seven percentage points since 2011 among Muslims (from 28% to 35% favorable).
Hamas
72% Pakistanis did not offer an opinion, and 16% of the remaining ones thumbed Hamas down. In the Palestinian territories, opinions of Hamas are mixed, with 45% of Muslims viewing the group unfavorably, compared with 48% who say they have a favorable view.
“Since 2007, support for Hamas has also declined among Muslims in Pakistan (-31), Jordan (-20), Malaysia (-20), Indonesia (-19), and Turkey (-10).”
Hezbollah
Muslim attitudes toward Hezbollah are mixed in Senegal, Tunisia, and Indonesia, with many offering no opinion.
In Palestine, 43% are in favour of the group with 49% against it.
In Pakistan, again, 72% recorded no opinion. 13% said they were not in favour of the group against a 15% who said they were.
The Taliban
A median of 51% of all Muslims have an unfavorable view of the Taliban, the Islamic fundamentalist movement almost exclusively based in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Majorities of Muslims in Lebanon (92%), Jordan (82%), Egypt (70%), Turkey (70%), and Pakistan (65%) have a negative opinion of the group. About half of Muslims in Nigeria (51%), Tunisia (50%), and the Palestinian territories (50%) share this view.

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[Badlun]

http://dawn.com/news/1043515/zawahiri-urges-restraint-in-first-guidelines-for-jihad

[gadoonwal]

why there is no terror in Punjab and interior sind?
Dose terrorists hate only pakhtuns?
Pakistani media is playing dirty game for the last 13 years and more.

[Friend]

The main cause is injustice on individual level and collective level.
Today you start giving cheap and quick justice to the common man, tommorrow you will see that 90% of turmoil will vanish. This is gauranteed.

[Tjanaparh]

To resolve any betterment You need to be united.
Otherwise things will continue always that way.
people here say that nationalism is bad, but if you complain on problems of your nation and then don't see your nations problems as a priority how can you solve any problem.
No foreigner will have pure intentions with You.
Be it USA or Saudi.
History repets this every period and in so many different places, that it is quiet easy to understand.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

To resolve any betterment You need to be united.
Otherwise things will continue always that way.
people here say that nationalism is bad, but if you complain on problems of your nation and then don't see your nations problems as a priority how can you solve any problem.
No foreigner will have pure intentions with You.
Be it USA or Saudi.
History repets this every period and in so many different places, that it is quiet easy to understand.

Caring for your country and its future does not mean we should become nationalists.

It is part of our faith as Muslims to care for the well being of those around us. This is why most practicing Muslims from Afghanistan in the West are envolved in charities where they invest in education, healthcare and other services bypassing the corrupt criminal Western international organizations.

Yet the Nationalists apply for jobs as translators for US army, they receive funds from USAID to promote corruption, they drive around in expensive SUV's and when you question their methods, they will tell you that since you are religious, you are brainwashed, and therefore you don't really care about your country.

So in reality, nationalism means being corrupt, shallow and cunning. Nationalists use the sentiments of people to rob them.

[Tjanaparh]

@Shamlawar
First of all, thank You for your answer!
I have a question for you: What is in your eyes a nationalist? Can you answer me in a detailed way, so i may better understand You?

I repeat perhaps myself saying it, learning English we learned Azgainakan (armenian word, where azg= nation, tribal union, azgain=national,tribal, ethnic (for example Folk music= azgain yerazhshtutyun), azgainakan= azgain + suffix -akan => wordly "nationalic", "tribalic", translated as "nationalist").
Since that moment i use nationalist exatly in the same sense interchangebly with our native word.


So if i talk about nationalists I don't mean an organization in particular way, because same way we have parties that pose as nationalists, but are in reality all the opposite.
And the people You described are allso al the opposite, they are antinational if they steal from their people .
But there are same way people who say to present faith but do the same and are same way false and use sentiments.
To ask me i see no difference in someone who uses faith or national unity for personal gains, and those people are quiet a lot.

I don't think You have the right to accuse all of a different way of thinking being on payment of USA, and same way nobody can accuse all religious people of the same or opposite.
single people have qualities, and i met different people from both categories.
Isn'T it more important to exclude all such people and unite despit your differences?
Also, what are SUV?
I have to quit now, so i limit myself on this posting!
Sorry for interrupting

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

@Shamlawar
First of all, thank You for your answer!
I have a question for you: What is in your eyes a nationalist? Can you answer me in a detailed way, so i may better understand You?

I repeat perhaps myself saying it, learning English we learned Azgainakan (armenian word, where azg= nation, tribal union, azgain=national,tribal, ethnic (for example Folk music= azgain yerazhshtutyun), azgainakan= azgain + suffix -akan => wordly "nationalic", "tribalic", translated as "nationalist").
Since that moment i use nationalist exatly in the same sense interchangebly with our native word.


So if i talk about nationalists I don't mean an organization in particular way, because same way we have parties that pose as nationalists, but are in reality all the opposite.
And the people You described are allso al the opposite, they are antinational if they steal from their people .
But there are same way people who say to present faith but do the same and are same way false and use sentiments.
To ask me i see no difference in someone who uses faith or national unity for personal gains, and those people are quiet a lot.

I don't think You have the right to accuse all of a different way of thinking being on payment of USA, and same way nobody can accuse all religious people of the same or opposite.
single people have qualities, and i met different people from both categories.
Isn'T it more important to exclude all such people and unite despit your differences?
Also, what are SUV?
I have to quit now, so i limit myself on this posting!
Sorry for interrupting

Nationalism as an ideology is a product of enlightenment in Europe. It is primarily based on the ideas of Jean Jaque Rousseau.

it is popularized by marxist and romanticist authors through literature.

I am in class now. I will reply later.

[Manzareh]

Badlun, try to be unbiased, maybe you will gain some credibility, we all know the western and secularist involvement in global terrorism and we are aware of their role in terrorist activity in the past and present, yet you try to smoke screen these issues and ignore.