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  • Evidence of American involvement in "Pashtun spring" of FATA

    https://twitter.com/SameeraKhan/stat...65458583162882

    NED is linked with CIA
    Last edited by Samandri; 05-28-2019, 03:00 PM.

  • #2
    All the "springs" in Middle east were orchestrated by America. Same is the case with "Pashtun spring". Its not that the grievances of tribals are not genuine, they really suffered but thats how powers like America create pawns for its great games.

    The fact that America was able to operate freely in FATA point out towards the fact that lot of faujis are themselves sell outs and feed on American dollars.

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    • #3
      That's not really evidence.

      But anyway, the US, Russia, and now China have a hand in pretty much every major movement in the world. Regional players (in our case, Saudi and Iran) are usually involved too.

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      • #4
        multiple NGOs were involved in FATA and KP in past at the behest of PK government, but these funding don't see the light of the day and ends up in administrative pocket, useless seminars and research, which no one need, it brings the much needed foreign currency for the PK. whatsoever this has no connection with PTM, neither we have seen artificial PTM rallies like that of partug tahafuz movement which needs funding.

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        • #5
          you are alive, I thought Punjabi’s sold you as virgin bride to Chinese. It is quit distributing how faithful you are to your Punjabi daddies. What you post is not evidence, do you even know most of NGO in porkitan get funding fodm
          US Gov? Even billions of dollars is being paid to paki military yet you never objected.
          ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
          نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

          چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
          نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

          سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
          بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

          چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
          يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

          سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
          په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

          ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
          اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Samandri View Post
            All the "springs" in Middle east were orchestrated by America. Same is the case with "Pashtun spring". Its not that the grievances of tribals are not genuine, they really suffered but thats how powers like America create pawns for its great games.

            The fact that America was able to operate freely in FATA point out towards the fact that lot of faujis are themselves sell outs and feed on American dollars.
            America is funding "springs" against countries and armies that they already own and fund like Pakistan and Egypt?


            This "America funding springs" line just does not hold any water.

            If they were, I would have no problem with it as long as they dont send in the military
            Last edited by Insight; 05-30-2019, 10:41 PM.
            "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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            • #7
              How is America creating pawns when its the paki army who is creating enemies that America can exploit against them. Why does a segment of your population have grievances in the first place.
              This is the classic blame America for everything trick. What happened to the blame India for everything trick? Overplayed?

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              • #8
                Wise man say, don't trust alleged evidence posted from some random Twitter handle with an overfiltered photo ........none of the things presented were official documents.

                Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                don’t try to be smart.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                  All the "springs" in Middle east were orchestrated by America. Same is the case with "Pashtun spring". Its not that the grievances of tribals are not genuine, they really suffered but thats how powers like America create pawns for its great games.

                  The fact that America was able to operate freely in FATA point out towards the fact that lot of faujis are themselves sell outs and feed on American dollars.
                  So America wanted an Arab Spring so that Islamists like Ikhwan Al Muslimeen could rise to power ...and then get toppled by having a despotic military government that is Pro West, despite originally having a pro-western secular military despot?


                  Think hard about this narrative.

                  Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                  Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                  don’t try to be smart.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                    Wise man say, don't trust alleged evidence posted from some random Twitter handle with an overfiltered photo ........none of the things presented were official documents.
                    Which wise man said that?
                    Besides 90% of people are idiots who believe whats told to them without evidence and then they just repeat what they hear.

                    This is a Pakistan is the beacon of Islam and America is trying to destroy the beacon of Islam by first funding it and saving it from India and then painting popular protests as American made. Im just surprised they are not painting this as some RAW ploy.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post

                      So America wanted an Arab Spring so that Islamists like Ikhwan Al Muslimeen could rise to power ...and then get toppled by having a despotic military government that is Pro West, despite originally having a pro-western secular military despot?


                      Think hard about this narrative.
                      America is Littlefinger of 'game of thrones'. "Chaos is ladder" formula.

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                      • #12
                        Said Alam Mahsud, an ANP-wala and an American agent who is among the brains behind PTM, fled to America few days before crack down against PTM started in which Mohsin Dawar and Ali Wazir were arrested. He was on ECL, he made excuse that he should be allowed to got to America as he has health problems and he needs to be treated on emergency basis. Some how he was able to remove himself from ECL (perhaps due to efforts of American agents in judiciary). But when he reached America, he was found to be very healthy and was making protests in front of White House. Another prominent American agent Gulalai Ismail is arrested after she blamed Pakistan army for rape of Farishta.

                        Another thing to observe is that PTM activities have immensely diminished with arrest of Moshin Dawar. He was the real deal and he was the main organizer and manager of the movement on ground and on social media. Another thing to note about the movement is that they never gained popularity beyond Waziristan. They failed to impress other districts of FATA. In Balochistan, ANP and PKMAP members were making noises in the name of PTM. Their jalsas were getting smaller and smaller. Their last jalsa in Peshawar was ridiculously small despite of vigorous campaign to gather people for it.They were on decline and in their desperation they played too hard in Zeba Bibi and Farishta cases.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Samandri View Post

                          America is Littlefinger of 'game of thrones'. "Chaos is ladder" formula.
                          Not sure what that means ......if you mean they created chaos to keep their primacy, they were already doing that with the existing power structure. ....so your reasoning doesn't really follow from the the way the events unfolded.

                          Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                          Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                          don’t try to be smart.

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