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  • #16
    Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
    If you remember the 12th May incident, not only ANP workers were killed on that day, but dozens of PPP Jialas, workers of PML , JI and other parties were also killed.....now the question is Why are Nawaz, Qazi, Zardari silent.....according to your statement aaya dvee humm da MQM na paisey akhistey dee.......daa kho bya MQM na' dey World Bank dey lol.....



    BTW it is not the first time that pukhtuns are brutally killed...soon after the independence the game started.......do you remember Babara incident? it has been the hobby of the rulers.....
    So according to you should they leave the government and the two members of ANP in Sindh assembly resign, to give the MQM dominated government an opportunity to crush them badly......If they are in coalition governmnet it is in the favour of pakhtuns there.....at least they are raising their voice in Assembly, media and on other forums.....suppose Shahi syed(ANP) withdrews from their stand and quit their politics you will witness that MQM Ghundas will kill pukhtuns mercilessly in the streets au wallah ka' sta da pakistan da noro ilaaqo khalaq trey khabar humm shee...laka sanga che ba early ninetees key kedal......Under his leadership pukhtuns of Karachi are giving the Muhajirs a tough resistance , I prefer this man on Asfandyar. .....he have qualities of leadership.....He organised pukhtuns there in a short span of time though other parties claiming for the pukhtun rights are also there like PKMAP, PPP Sherpao etc yet he and his party has been well supported by pukhtuns there and they have showed it in Jashn-e-Pukhtunkhwa celebrations there......



    OK.....fair enought.......then tell me how MQM came into being? It was your first Second Ameer ul Momineen Gen. Zia who organised the Muhajir there to counter PPP ......then the third Amir ul Momineen Gen. Mush strengthened them and give them full support ......it was during his rule when the incident of 12th May occured.....Now it is Mareez-e-Millat Altaf Hussain who demands for Army to take control of the government ....Why he is asking for Marshal Law?



    If according to you making statements in one's favour is all a leader should do then i hope Qazi hussain ahmad of JI will be your favourite leader..... He has did a lot for the province by securing its rights....many departmesnt came under provincial government control.....earned your province a name,.....but alas he is have stupid friends and cunning enemies.....
    this guy is anti pashtun and mouthpiece of the main propaganda.
    i personally think suc people are responsible for all the problems and are standing between Pukhtane and their aspiration.

    they were the ones who were downplaying the name changing of pukhtunkhwa while pukhtane were celeberating these guys were talking **** about them because they rather like NWFP which is colonist imposed.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
      If you remember the 12th May incident, not only ANP workers were killed on that day, but dozens of PPP Jialas, workers of PML , JI and other parties were also killed.....now the question is Why are Nawaz, Qazi, Zardari silent.....according to your statement aaya dvee humm da MQM na paisey akhistey dee.......daa kho bya MQM na' dey World Bank dey lol.....
      No, as far as Qazi Hussain Ahmed is concerned his party never ever stopped asking about that incident. Plus, PPP is in power and you know what MQM has that strange ability to make the partners fear, PPP being in power wants peace in Karachi and hence MQM is their weakness, they must join hands else there is nothing they can do about the city as whole, leaving a few areas. Now coming to the point my concern is my people. It's crystal clear dude, do you know in Karachi there was one person (I am forgetting his name) was some Buneri, was about to win his seat when Shahi Sayyed told him that he will not participating, now what was that for?


      Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
      BTW it is not the first time that pukhtuns are brutally killed...soon after the independence the game started.......do you remember Babara incident? it has been the hobby of the rulers.....
      So according to you should they leave the government and the two members of ANP in Sindh assembly resign, to give the MQM dominated government an opportunity to crush them badly......If they are in coalition governmnet it is in the favour of pakhtuns there.....at least they are raising their voice in Assembly, media and on other forums.....suppose Shahi syed(ANP) withdrews from their stand and quit their politics you will witness that MQM Ghundas will kill pukhtuns mercilessly in the streets au wallah ka' sta da pakistan da noro ilaaqo khalaq trey khabar humm shee...laka sanga che ba early ninetees key kedal......Under his leadership pukhtuns of Karachi are giving the Muhajirs a tough resistance , I prefer this man on Asfandyar. .....he have qualities of leadership.....He organised pukhtuns there in a short span of time though other parties claiming for the pukhtun rights are also there like PKMAP, PPP Sherpao etc yet he and his party has been well supported by pukhtuns there and they have showed it in Jashn-e-Pukhtunkhwa celebrations there......
      Sorry, don't know about Babara incident.
      According to me they must quit they govt and join the opposition in that way they can raise their voice in a much better way. Plus, do you see in this video he raising a voice no, I'd listened to this speech several times he is just calling the Pakthuns of the city to get armed and thats it. And do mind that all Pakhtuns living in Karachi doesn't belong to ANP infact a large percentage belongs to PPP and Jumat-e-Islami and even to MQM.



      Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
      OK.....fair enought.......then tell me how MQM came into being? It was your first Second Ameer ul Momineen Gen. Zia who organised the Muhajir there to counter PPP ......then the third Amir ul Momineen Gen. Mush strengthened them and give them full support ......it was during his rule when the incident of 12th May occured.....Now it is Mareez-e-Millat Altaf Hussain who demands for Army to take control of the government ....Why he is asking for Marshal Law?
      They did created MQM. They ARE NOT helping them right now. Do you know that it's the Army and Establishment that don't want MQM to take hold of the city. Plus, Musharraf did that because they owed him a favor some good time you know. Altaf is **** you know, he does say many things that are nonsence, do you believe him? I don't .. Dual faces, he just wanted to shock the govt a little, on this topic we had already debated, and it was my first debate on this forum you can check further if you want.


      Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
      If according to you making statements in one's favour is all a leader should do then i hope Qazi hussain ahmad of JI will be your favourite leader..... He has did a lot for the province by securing its rights....many departmesnt came under provincial government control.....earned your province a name,.....but alas he is have stupid friends and cunning enemies.....
      No it's not, but that's the least a politician can do you know? Ok show me 30 places where Asfandyar was on field facing the danger or resolving the problems of his people.
      Provincial Autonomy was the demand of each and every province you can't give all the credit to Asfandyar.. Going more further he earned a name which has no sense and he earned it from Nawaz Sharif and gave him the right to become a PM for the third time?

      Plus, they also earned titles like 'Baba ta easy load woka' for their massive corruption within the province. Did you see him in all these floods in the province? Were you able to find Asfandyar Wali among the IDP's of Swat?
      And don't give that name ****, a normal common man doesn't want any name. He wants a piece of bread in his stomach and he doesn't care whether a 'Speen Pakhtun' or a 'Toor Punjabay' is providing him with that!!
      yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
        this guy is anti pashtun and mouthpiece of the main propaganda.
        i personally think suc people are responsible for all the problems and are standing between Pukhtane and their aspiration.

        they were the ones who were downplaying the name changing of pukhtunkhwa while pukhtane were celeberating these guys were talking **** about them because they rather like NWFP which is colonist imposed.

        Hey kid go and pay a visit to KPK and ask people how many of them are happy with this man Asfandyar Wali Khan or his fellows. How many people celebrated this name thing? These are not the issues of the stupid common Pakhtuns
        yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
          Hey kid go and pay a visit to KPK and ask people how many of them are happy with this man Asfandyar Wali Khan or his fellows. How many people celebrated this name thing? These are not the issues of the stupid common Pakhtuns
          oh kpk?you want to it sound as nwfp again,weesh bechara sakht khafa ekhkarey.i dont care what you say you and your type are cowards and cant be relied upon.

          so according to you common pashtun is stupid?way to go mr ranjeeth singh

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          • #20
            ^ Ashna ta pa khabar lag zan pvohe ka? I asked you a simple question go and pay a visit to that place and see for yourself how many people are happy with this specific decision. I give a damn to this name **** man, what are you talking about, I'd already told you that the common man is too busy to talk/celebrate and be concerned about such things, I am also not concerned about it, Read my post again, in the lateral part of my second last post you will get an answer, The common man doesn't get into these urdu pakthu things, he is concernced about a piece of bread in his stomach and he doesn't care whether a 'Speen Pakhtun' or 'Toor Punjabay' is giving it to him.

            Yes if the common Pakhtun would haven't been that much stupid, the world would have not used him in so much ways !!`
            yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
              It's crystal clear dude, do you know in Karachi there was one person (I am forgetting his name) was some Buneri, was about to win his seat when Shahi Sayyed told him that he will not participating, now what was that for?!!
              Yea i know Shahi syed withdrew him in participating in the elections.....and he had explained this on several occassions on media and other forums....Actually he knew that MQM Ghundas will do some Ghunda Gardi and will threaten the voters there as the police were already in their control that is why he demanded for Army to supervise the election but Central government didn't give him attention and thus to avoid bloodshed there he withdrew his candidate.....



              Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
              Sorry, don't know about Babara incident.
              Babara was that tragic incident in which fire was opened on a peaceful procession of Bacha Khan's khudayee khidmatgaars thus brutally killing many.......the then CM Qayum khan while commenting on that said that: Shukar dey obasee che dagha wakht forces sara bullets khatam shoo gani yo surposh ba humm raana jwandey na' woo taley"

              Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
              According to me they must quit they govt and join the opposition in that way they can raise their voice in a much better way. Plus, do you see in this video he raising a voice no, I'd listened to this speech several times he is just calling the Pakthuns of the city to get armed and thats it. And do mind that all Pakhtuns living in Karachi doesn't belong to ANP infact a large percentage belongs to PPP and Jumat-e-Islami and even to MQM.
              So what should he do then.....? When he demands for an army operation there to de-weaponize the area he is criticised and when he asks the pashtun to get armed and fight with MQM Ghundas still you people have problem?????
              Yesterday i was hearing him on a talk show where an MQM leader showered many allegation on him....that he is Ghunda, Mawali, Bhutta khor etc....he was listening to him for quite a long time.....when he was given a chance he said: OK ...suppose i am Ghunda, Badmaash etc then why you have a problem when i demand an army operation here to punish the culprits? if i am the one then i should worry but why you farishtas' worry about?.....




              Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
              No it's not, but that's the least a politician can do you know? Ok show me 30 places where Asfandyar was on field facing the danger or resolving the problems of his people.
              Provincial Autonomy was the demand of each and every province you can't give all the credit to Asfandyar.. Going more further he earned a name which has no sense and he earned it from Nawaz Sharif and gave him the right to become a PM for the third time?
              He is not a councellor or union council Nazim to be there to solve disputes and problems of his locals....neither he is a harculeus to stand in the way of floods.....you are just making silly pretexts......Altaf Hussain has been in UK since years still have you ever heard a Muhajir speaking against him? Nawaz Sharif spent a long time abroad as a result of a humiliating treaty that he has signed with Gen. Mush....have you ever heard a Punjabi criticising him for that?????? Actually some pashtuns have been dipped so much in the so called ocean of loyality to Pakistan that they hate each and every person who put Pakistani interests aside and speak of his own rights.......And BTW what is wrong with this name....? on one side you are making thread after thread in praise of Khyber and on the other you are not happy with this word.....

              Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
              Plus, they also earned titles like 'Baba ta easy load woka' for their massive corruption within the province. Did you see him in all these floods in the province? Were you able to find Asfandyar Wali among the IDP's of Swat?
              And don't give that name ****, a normal common man doesn't want any name.
              As far as corruption is concerned it exists every where in Pakistan.....da sarkari idaro da yo maamooli peon na waakhley tar PM porey every one is dipped in it......Corruption is actully a term attached to every pakistani and so pakistani political parties are also involved in it.....Not only ANP, but PML, PPP, MQM , JUI, JI and every other pakistani political parties are doing corruption au da khalqo pre sa' kaar nishta provided that they should also be given a chance to earn money like that......

              Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
              He wants a piece of bread in his stomach and he doesn't care whether a 'Speen Pakhtun' or a 'Toor Punjabay' is providing him with that!!
              Ghani khan Baba wayee:

              "Jwand ka' tash pernee satal vee, daa kho spey humm she kawaley"
              "Jwand ka' tash Bachee rawral vee, Daa ghwayey humm she kawaley"

              Heela laram pa matlab ba ye rasedaley ye.......
              Last edited by Yousafzai Pakhtun; 01-20-2011, 03:41 AM.
              Na soz sho na saaz sho,
              Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
                Yea i know Shahi syed withdrew him in participating in the elections.....and he had explained this on several occassions on media and other forums....Actually he knew that MQM Ghundas will do some Ghunda Gardi and will threaten the voters there as the police were already in their control that is why he demanded for Army to supervise the election but Central government didn't give him attention and thus to avoid bloodshed there he withdrew his candidate.....
                To avoid bloodshed and what is he doing in this video/speech inviting people to prepare for bloodshed? Here, I am talking about the original elections not the ones happened after Raza Haider's death. I don't understand this like they think Army is against them and Pakhtuns as a whole still they want an election under the supervision of Army.





                Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
                Babara was that tragic incident in which fire was opened on a peaceful procession of Bacha Khan's khudayee khidmatgaars thus brutally killing many.......the then CM Qayum khan while commenting on that said that: Shukar dey obasee che dagha wakht forces sara bullets khatam shoo gani yo surposh ba humm raana jwandey na' woo taley"
                What Bacha Khan told his followers after that incident? Did he tell him to get armed?



                Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
                So what should he do then.....? When he demands for an army operation there to de-weaponize the area he is criticised and when he asks the pashtun to get armed and fight with MQM Ghundas still you people have problem?????
                Yesterday i was hearing him on a talk show where an MQM leader showered many allegation on him....that he is Ghunda, Mawali, Bhutta khor etc....he was listening to him for quite a long time.....when he was given a chance he said: OK ...suppose i am Ghunda, Badmaash etc then why you have a problem when i demand an army operation here to punish the culprits? if i am the one then i should worry but why you farishtas' worry about?.....
                It's very crystal clear, he must quit the govt at once and not be a part of any sort of courruption etc etc in the current govt. He must condemn the policies of the govt at every level that are against pakhtuns. Plus, Altaf Hussain also demanded Army operation several times. Keep in mind that the Army operation is dangerous for all the parties of Karachi as all of them does have terrorist wings. Plus, Its the PPP govt that doesn't want operation in the city.






                Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
                He is not a councellor or union council Nazim to be there to solve disputes and problems of his locals....neither he is a harculeus to stand in the way of floods.....you are just making silly pretexts......Altaf Hussain has been in UK since years still have you ever heard a Muhajir speaking against him? Nawaz Sharif spent a long time abroad as a result of a humiliating treaty that he has signed with Gen. Mush....have you ever heard a Punjabi criticising him for that?????? Actually some pashtuns have been dipped so much in the so called ocean of loyality to Pakistan that they hate each and every person who put Pakistani interests aside and speak of his own rights.......And BTW what is wrong with this name....? on one side you are making thread after thread in praise of Khyber and on the other you are not happy with this word.....
                What a logic zalima, what are you saying here. Is Shahbaz Sharif a Union Council Nazim? When he can travel on motocycles and boats to get into the flood affected areas, why can't Asfandyar? If Nawaz Sharif and Altaf did something wrong that doesn't mean that it's the right of Asfandyar Wali to do wrong things? Plus, show me where he is active? I mean he should atleast be in Charsaddah from where he won the election? He must atleast be there in his own constituency? To help atleast those who voted for him? But he desn't care about them. That's the fact. Did you see Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao after that suicide attack on him? He was like kicking his guards and getting into the common people on the other hand this nar Pakhtun Asfandyar flew to Islamabad right after a few hours and than to London? This is his bravery? This is Pakhtunwali? After that tragic Karsaz incident Benazir Bhutto on the vary next day went to the houses of those who were killed but where was Asfandyar after that incident. These incidents show that he lacks the qualities of a good leader.
                Da Naamwar fakhr-e-afghan da wali Khan bachiya,
                Marg pa neeta day laka da nar warta kosa ki kena .. !!
                No, I've nothing to do with the name I am neither happy nor sad with it. They changed it good but it is a name which wasn't even demanded by the ANP themselves. And in return what they gave to Nawaz Sharif, compare ashna?



                Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
                As far as corruption is concerned it exists every where in Pakistan.....da sarkari idaro da yo maamooli peon na waakhley tar PM porey every one is dipped in it......Corruption is actully a term attached to every pakistani and so pakistani political parties are also involved in it.....Not only ANP, but PML, PPP, MQM , JUI, JI and every other pakistani political parties are doing corruption au da khalqo pre sa' kaar nishta provided that they should also be given a chance to earn money like that......
                If somebody else is corrupt that doesn't mean even I and you should be. And corruption was never at this top before the govt of ANP. Mind it. Plus, they should have made a system free of corruption as they were and they are in a position of creating such a system. But instead what they did? They just went on with it and started enjoying it.
                Wayi,,
                Lari Amreeki ta haghwi pat ki pa dalaro ki!!
                They are eating and living corruption dude,
                Wayi .. Nationalyan sho toba gaar da nationalyano!!


                Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View Post
                Ghani khan Baba wayee:

                "Jwand ka' tash pernee satal vee, daa kho spey humm she kawaley"
                "Jwand ka' tash Bachee rawral vee, Daa ghwayey humm she kawaley"

                Heela laram pa matlab ba ye rasedaley ye.......
                Master piece!! Master piece. But this applies on the people with mara geda like the khan and mullah .. Sa pvohe shwi? It's natural that you and I today have the facilities of a good life thats why we are here discussing the issues? The issues of a common man are different all he want is a piece of bread that's it.
                yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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                • #23
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                  Unreliable

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                  • #24
                    ^ What's un reliable??
                    yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
                      I don't understand this like they think Army is against them and Pakhtuns as a whole still they want an election under the supervision of Army.
                      Shahbaz, The situation in Pukhtunkhwa is different from that in Karachi where ANP is in a coalition with only two members while in Pukhtunkhwa they are the ruling party....also in Pukhtunkhwa there is no violence on the part of political parties but it is due to different extremist groups....

                      Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
                      What Bacha Khan told his followers after that incident? Did he tell him to get armed?
                      Don't compare today's leaders with Bacha khan .......and today's ANp with Khudayee khidmatgar tehreek.....You know when Bacha khan launched this movement in 1930 noo yawa halaf naama ye jaari kara che pa dey tehreek ke ba hagha kas shamelegee che daa halaf waakhli.....and it contained very difficult rules.....Like i will work only for the betterment of my people and won't want any reward for it if my party came in power, I won't leave the doctrine of non-violence what ever may happen.....etc.....Nan saba ke dey chaa ta dagha rules makhkey kral noo darpasey ba soo kanzal okee che wrak sha marha ,,zamong ihsaan na' maney che party ta dey raaghloo laa qasamoona raana akhley....I mean today's pukhtun is quite different from the one in Bacha khan times and so are the political parties......

                      Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
                      What a logic zalima, what are you saying here. Is Shahbaz Sharif a Union Council Nazim? When he can travel on motocycles and boats to get into the flood affected areas, why can't Asfandyar? If Nawaz Sharif and Altaf did something wrong that doesn't mean that it's the right of Asfandyar Wali to do wrong things? Plus, show me where he is active? I mean he should atleast be in Charsaddah from where he won the election? He must atleast be there in his own constituency? To help atleast those who voted for him? But he desn't care about them. That's the fact. Did you see Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao after that suicide attack on him? He was like kicking his guards and getting into the common people on the other hand this nar Pakhtun Asfandyar flew to Islamabad right after a few hours and than to London? This is his bravery? This is Pakhtunwali? After that tragic Karsaz incident Benazir Bhutto on the vary next day went to the houses of those who were killed but where was Asfandyar after that incident. These incidents show that he lacks the qualities of a good leader.
                      Do you think there is the same situation of law and order in Punjab as is in Pukhtunkhwa??? At present we only have two nationalist leaders struggling for pukhtun rights.....i.e Asfandyar and Achakzai saib.....and both are trying their best not to come in publich gathering and in direct contact with public.....because are threatened by ISI sponsored terrorists....they just want to remove them from their path.....so i think they should be care ful.....baaqi Mia saib shta, Bashir bilour is there....yesterday i Saw Mia saib walking in Firdous with 4 security guards in a crowed near Bacha khan chowk......similarly Bashir Bilour is often seen among the public.....and as a result Mia saib lost his son.....bilour has been attacked many times.....so you think Asfandiyar should also give a chance to the anti pashtun elements to kill him.....a number of party leaders and workers have been killed....sa' oshoo? Pukhtun bey hissa qom dey ,,,,,dwa wrazey ba prey bahas oshee bya ba ye khalaq heir kee....There are other party workers there in Charsadda to help there people.....Da sherpao wakht ke haalat daasey na' woo...oss ye tapos oka che ter akhtaroona ye kom zay celebrate karee dee....
                      Na soz sho na saaz sho,
                      Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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                      • #26
                        ^ So you think in Karachi Army is gonna support Pakhtuns against MQMers? Right?

                        So I will be justified in saying that todays ANP is no longer Bacha Khan's ANP?

                        No, that's not sufficient? Laka ta da waye che zamonga leader da marg na yaregi? I am sorry but I am afraid to call such a person a leader. And that's why I respect Mian Iftikhar, that man is brave despite of the fact that he is corrupt and corrupt to a very large extent. And after a bomb blast going to a place and just condemning is not a real thing to do yet I love them atleast they aren't afraid. If Asfandyar is so much afraid of the terrorists than he better leave politics and stay home. He will be safe. Politics ki kho da shta nu? Ameer Muqam darta yad day, hagha ta kho pa har zegi ki bomb blast oshwalo kho hagha o na takhtedo?

                        Man I am sick of them? Do you know I've seen a red flag at the top of my house since I was born. It's still there.. If you ever meet Mian Saib or Bilours just ask them about,
                        Iftikhar Ali of Amankot? I mean I was the one who supported them but I won't support them anymore as they are not worth !!
                        yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
                          ^ So you think in Karachi Army is gonna support Pakhtuns against MQMers? Right?
                          No, according to the recent report compiled by MI, ISI, CID etc shows that among the target killers most belong to MQM only one person belong to ANP.... so i think army would de-weaponise the region and would punish the curlprits which ever party they may belong........My personal opinion is that MQM is the the only party that is responisble for the bloodshed.....though you are blaming ANP (and that may be right to some extent) yet if you look back into the early 90s you would find that there was no ANP there, infact it emerged in the last few years.......yet these bloody incidents always occured that led PPP govt to launch an operation against the Muhajirs....



                          Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
                          No, that's not sufficient? Laka ta da waye che zamonga leader da marg na yaregi? I am sorry but I am afraid to call such a person a leader. And that's why I respect Mian Iftikhar, that man is brave despite of the fact that he is corrupt and corrupt to a very large extent. And after a bomb blast going to a place and just condemning is not a real thing to do yet I love them atleast they aren't afraid. If Asfandyar is so much afraid of the terrorists than he better leave politics and stay home. He will be safe. Politics ki kho da shta nu? Ameer Muqam darta yad day, hagha ta kho pa har zegi ki bomb blast oshwalo kho hagha o na takhtedo?
                          So, do you think Asfandyar should expose himself to terrorists and embrace shahadat like his other colleagues? so that you can proudly say that our leader sacrificed his life us...I myself want him to fight for the rights of pukhtuns and for the betterment of the region in a constitutional way (whether he is in Charsadda or Islamabad) rather than to set in his Hujra and to do salam dua with his people and at the end one of his guard got paid from ISI and kill him...if you think the opposite to this then why not you criticise your Baba-e-Qom Mr. Jinnah ? Bacha khan in his autobiography says that when i was adviced by some of my friends to to join with the two main stream parties. ie. ML or Congress, i first approached Mr. Jinnah but he refused by saying that you pukhtuns are always tortured by the govt forces and i don't like to be jailed or tortured like you, so i won't give my hand to those who are always in hard water......Aaya hagha wakht humm khalqo daa waylee woo che Jinnah saib da jail na yaregee, dey kha' leader na' dey?....Mr. Jinnah was a leader who led his party to struggle for the independence of Pakistan yet he was never jailed or tortured like Bacha Khan and Gandhi jee.....

                          Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
                          Man I am sick of them? Do you know I've seen a red flag at the top of my house since I was born. It's still there.. If you ever meet Mian Saib or Bilours just ask them about,
                          Iftikhar Ali of Amankot? I mean I was the one who supported them but I won't support them anymore as they are not worth !!
                          So did i........
                          I admit ANP is no more in its original shape and its Khudayee khidmatgaar are now replaced by selfish and corrupt pukhtuns But at present we are left with no choice other than to support ANP......
                          Na soz sho na saaz sho,
                          Bas hasy jwand tamam sho

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                          • #28
                            No, MQM is not the only party responsible. Both are equally responsible. If you cannot go to Nine Zero in the same way the can't pay a visit to Pehalwan Goth. And this is what needs to be finished. My personal opinion about the city of Karachi is that stay neutral, khpal kaar sakha kaar saata and no body will be touching you. Plus, Zama ghata gela da ANP na da da che dwi chari hum da khpal sari tapos na kawi aao da karachai ghwandi khaar ki da diera ma'ni lari .. Do you know when Fazl-ur-Rehman was killed at Sohrab Goth haghi na 2hrz pas hom la Shahi Sayyed ta pata na wa? Man that's pathetic. Plus my first objection over the video was he should not ask the people to get armed. That's it !!


                            Da ta sa khabari kay yar laka che saba da Asfandyar na qalam wrak shi nu hagha hum ISI wrak ko. That's pathetic laka ta da way che dagha bambar hum da pasi ISI legalay wo? bya kho ba ta da hum mani che Aftab Sherpao aao Amer muqam pasi hum dagha khud-kush ISI war wastoli wo? ISI bas bal sa kar nashta jori di ta nasta da? And if ISI would like to kill him they can even do it in the presidency .. Kha kana .. Aao he should remain within his people. He must pay a visit atleast once in a month to Charsaddah? Da sa ghalata kho na wayam? Laka ka saba election sho nu day ba kho bya zi kana charsadi ta no wos wali na zi? Yao daz na yara na da pakar ashna .. ? Baba-e-qom di charta na ra wasto paki? Even if I agree that Jinnah did wrong nu will that be giving Asfandyar a right to do something wrong?

                            Wali nashta choice? Laka personally I have many other options .. Go for Achakzai saib or Imran Khan .. Dasi kho nor khalaq da waelay shi che haghwi sara da Zardari na baghair bal choice nashta .. ? Da ghalata da pir saib
                            yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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