A serious question

[khushal]

DZJ,
It is the times that make the man, not the other way around. The bad economy created an environment for a man like hitler rise to power. Everyone cared about the economy, The rise and fall of nations is parallel to the rise and fall of its economy. He turned germany around from a defeated nation to king of europe. He wasnt afraid of communism, he was a socialist himself, He and Stalin implemented the same economic policies. He was afraid Stalin was going to invade germany, and he wanted the resources in russia, so he struck first.

[Yos from tribe of Judea]

the number 6 million has been used since the end of ww2 while the estimates of jewish death tolls have been dramatically lowered since then. yet, the 6 million number is still the same.

The Holoucaust is the most documented event in human history, the nazis were very carful to document everything, evry train, every time they filled the gas chambers with people, the wrote everything down. It was not exactly 6 million, maybe a little more or a little less, but was close to that number. I even saw a report a while back , they found another mass grav near Russia and the number might be higher than 6 million.

There is no real dispute becuase of the nazi records on the matter.

[randolph85]

The Holoucaust is the most documented event in human history, the nazis were very carful to document everything, evry train, every time they filled the gas chambers with people, the wrote everything down. It was not exactly 6 million, maybe a little more or a little less, but was close to that number. I even saw a report a while back , they found another mass grav near Russia and the number might be higher than 6 million.

There is no real dispute becuase of the nazi records on the matter.

how is there no dispute when the total death count of auchwitz, the most famous of the fun houses death toll was changed from 4 million to 1 million over the span of 60 years? you would think that with this great record keeping, there wouldn't be such a problem.

[randolph85]

[khushal]

The Holoucaust is the most documented event in human history, the nazis were very carful to document everything, evry train, every time they filled the gas chambers with people, the wrote everything down. It was not exactly 6 million, maybe a little more or a little less, but was close to that number. I even saw a report a while back , they found another mass grav near Russia and the number might be higher than 6 million.

There is no real dispute becuase of the nazi records on the matter.

There are many prominent scholars that dispute the holocaust. Many are labeled as anti-semites and their careers and livelihoods are threatened. There is a huge organized movement against disputing against the holocaust. Denying the slaughter of people that are not jewish is a crime against humanty. Why is there no law against people that deny the institutionalized killing of native americans or the institutionalized slavery of africans. Why are they not compensated while the european jews are.I have already mentioned the motive of why this is so.

[Manzareh]

^ i think that pictures defines this holocaust sympathy syndrome and the advantage they use the deaths of people for.

however nobody has pointed out why were not allowed freedom of speach when it comes to the jews and holocaust

[Manzareh]

????..............hmmm Da khali daig ghag lor de

[khushal]

^ i think that pictures defines this holocaust sympathy syndrome and the advantage they use the deaths of people for.

however nobody has pointed out why were not allowed freedom of speach when it comes to the jews and holocaust

Manzarah,
Freeedom of speech(first amendment) was given precedence because the founders beleived that in a debate right will always win over wrong, truth will prevail. So what your saying is that when it comes to the holocaust, freedom of speech is supressed so truth can be supressed.

[faye]

i think the official resoning about the holocaust being a protected species, is that it was such a hugely bad event that we have to remember so that we don't let it happen again.(humanity, that is) we get a lot of documentaries on tv in australia about hitler and the holocaust, especially when israel has been doing atrocious things, like the big attack on gaza. jews tend to control a lot of the worlds media and probably made all of those documentaries which are then used as 'poor us' propaganda. an australian guy has been imprisoned and banned from places because he denies the holocaust in public speeches and on the net.

[Alchemist]

religion is personal and holocaust happened in front of everyone not so long ago. when you deny God knowing otherwise, you suffer. when you deny holocaust, those who lost family members or were affected otherwise suffer.
exaggerated a bit? perhaps...but then again, what isn't exaggerated in today's society...?
actually, what i think is happening is that the world hadn't seen that much violence at once up to that point in history so it was a shock..these days crimes, massacres and wars have become to common so looking back at what happened back then and the reaction people had to it has people question the severity of it.

lol


nonsense

[Manzareh]

Interesting stuff from everyone. still though, no solid justification yet for us not to have our own opinions and say the Halocaust did not happen, much worse things happend in the world, why can we deny them?? more so, if you tell people "dont deny it" then isnt that a blatent guilty conscience...i mean if it did happen why would so many people call it an exagerated lie. hmmmmmm

[khushal]

religion is personal and holocaust happened in front of everyone not so long ago. when you deny God knowing otherwise, you suffer. when you deny holocaust, those who lost family members or were affected otherwise suffer.
exaggerated a bit? perhaps...but then again, what isn't exaggerated in today's society...?
actually, what i think is happening is that the world hadn't seen that much violence at once up to that point in history so it was a shock..these days crimes, massacres and wars have become to common so looking back at what happened back then and the reaction people had to it has people question the severity of it.

Go read the history of humanity, it is filled with bloodshed. What you think is not in tune with reality.

[faye]

i agree that it was an atrocious event but i find it obscene when it is used to gain sympathy and to lead ones attention from the abuse of the palestinians. after such abuse to the jews one would expect them to have a different approach than to victimise a whole race of people. i have read a book by an israeli who claims that the attemps at peace are never fully participated in, by israel, because the israeli govt are usually ex army.

[graveyardofempires]

something did happen and it should not be used for politics
i saw this documentary by a jew who went to Aushwitz and started asking questions and there were implications that there were no gas chambers where zyclone b was used.
and lets not forget that many many germans also died and hitler himself was a crypto jew.and this whole thing was done to have jews back in the holy land.
ive even heard that jews were working together with nazis to get rid of religious jews to strengthen the seculer jews.

ad check this one:jews owned 80% of german economy and had control of things such as theater ,newspapers etc.
the germans were living in a state depression.and the jewish population wasnt even so much to say it were 6 million dead.
maybe,maybe not
but it is afterall bad that innocent people die in a systematic way,and it is as much bad to use that to justify killing other innocent people and taking their land.