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    JUST look at this typical pakistani lady ( & politician from pakistan ) how she is degrading the AFGHANS & BENGOLI people me bieng a bengoli origen from west bengol(indian province of west bengol) with her racist remarks & comments man i am angry why will people go to pakistan what do these people think pakistan to be they are the ones who loves to & will jump at the first chance to migrate to the middle east,europe,usa,canada & they talk they are "Hippocrates" in every sense & alphabets in letter & spirit of the word "Hippocrates" you will see pakistan
    Mag spoke to Deputy Speaker Sindh Assembly, Shehla Raza, in this regard.
    According to her, the problem of illegal immigrants is not the creation of the present government. It was in Musharraf’s era when these people were provided protection and identity cards. During the same period, they even contested elections and were made councillors. Now, the government cannot do much in this regard as many of them, though illegal immigrants, have become ‘legal citizens’ who have taken over the entire transport system. They have got into the carpet industry.
    “But the present government is sincere in solving the issue and we want to expel them. We are strictly against the illegal immigration as such people are the main source of deterioration of law and order situation in Sindh, especially Karachi. The PPP government is taking stringent measures in this regard.”
    How can you expect to do any legal business with a person who does not have any legitimate identity? That is the main problem with illegal immigrants. They are poor and illiterate, so they get involved in crimes.
    Answering to a question about their taking shelter in mosques, she said, “The government cannot even think of pointing finger towards any mosque, let alone conducting any raid. There would be bloodshed in the city. These people are very organized. They will not allow the government to get hold of them so easily.”
    Madressahs, which were set up in large numbers in Musharraf’s era in the province are the other problem. Large number of the students in these madressahs are foreigners.
    “The government cannot do much in this regard without the cooperation of people. If the government plans to take any step against the madressahs, then the so called religious oganisations and NGOs raise a lot of hue and cry, thus stopping us from taking any action against such mosques and masressahs.”
    Shehla Raza blames the society for patronizing the illegal immigrants. “The society has been providing protection to them because they are cheap labourers. People employ them as domestic servants. You will find many Bengalis and Afghanis working in the houses all over the city. They do not have their identity cards but people really do not care about that. It is the main reason behind rising dacoity incidents in the city.
    “What can the government do when the people are not interested in their own safety? At least they should ask for the identity card before hiring someone,” she said.
    She was of the view that such immigrants are enjoying every facility of life in Pakistan; jobs, health care facilities, shelter and food. Then why should they go back, especially the Afghans? There in Afghanistan, life is unsafe, there’s life threat, poverty, hunger and unemployment.
    “The government is taking all out measures to stop the influx of illegal immigrants. We have extra security at the borders round the clock, the number of troops has also been increased at the borders. I must say that the present government is very serious in repatriating them but it will take time as we have some legal constraints too,” she concluded.

    http://www.magtheweekly.com/47/concern.php
    Last edited by Espresso; 01-06-2011, 04:20 PM.
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  • #2
    Thanks borgza for the post.

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    • #3
      There are between 1-3 million Bengalis in Karachi mainly concentrated in certain areas of Karachi. Pakistanis in general look down on Bengalis and even the term "Bangalee" has a pejorative connatation, whereas in India, Bengalis are respected as one of the main national ethnic groups and people of culture and history.

      However with Bangladesh strengthening day by day and Pakistan weakening day by day with Pakistan even possibly breaking up and thus a new independent Sindhi state, these 1-3 million Karachi Bengalis have the potential to have a powerful backer.

      Politically speaking as of now the Karachi Bengalis are mainly affiliated with the MQM (maybe not a wise thing to say here on Pashtun forums, but better to be honest) and to a lesser degree with the Punjabi-dominated PML-N where they have a Sher-i-Bangla wing. "Sher i Bangla" (the Bengal tiger/lion) referring to the great Bengali politician A.K. Fazlul Haque who helped to create Pakistan.

      Quite a few years ago in Benazir's last stint in power she got some Bengalis and sent them on a plane to Dhaka. The Bangladeshi prime minister at that time Khaleda Zia refused to accept the plane. Pakistan basically has no way to physically remove the 1-3 million Bengalis of Karachi.



      Khaleda Zia, current Bangladeshi opposition leader in a recent visit to China where she was invited by the ruling party there.



      In the prophet's mosque in Medina, alaihi was salam.



      Doing umrah in Saudi.



      With a Saudi official in Dhaka, she was invited by the Saudis as a VIP



      With Turkish president Abdullah Gul.



      With Turkish ambassador.



      Feudal landlady and corrupt Pakistani politician, Benazir, daughter of the notorious Ali Bhutto and wife of the current president of Pakistan, Mr 10% Zardari.



      Ultimately Khaleda won that clash, there are millions of Bengalis in Pakistan's largest city and with time their power and influence will increase insha'Allah with improved economic status. Ameen.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
        There are between 1-3 million Bengalis in Karachi mainly concentrated in certain areas of Karachi. Pakistanis in general look down on Bengalis and even the term "Bangalee" has a pejorative connatation, whereas in India, Bengalis are respected as one of the main national ethnic groups and people of culture and history.

        However with Bangladesh strengthening day by day and Pakistan weakening day by day with Pakistan even possibly breaking up and thus a new independent Sindhi state, these 1-3 million Karachi Bengalis have the potential to have a powerful backer.

        Politically speaking as of now the Karachi Bengalis are mainly affiliated with the MQM (maybe not a wise thing to say here on Pashtun forums, but better to be honest) and to a lesser degree with the Punjabi-dominated PML-N where they have a Sher-i-Bangla wing. "Sher i Bangla" (the Bengal tiger/lion) referring to the great Bengali politician A.K. Fazlul Haque who helped to create Pakistan.

        Quite a few years ago in Benazir's last stint in power she got some Bengalis and sent them on a plane to Dhaka. The Bangladeshi prime minister at that time Khaleda Zia refused to accept the plane. Pakistan basically has no way to physically remove the 1-3 million Bengalis of Karachi.



        Khaleda Zia, current Bangladeshi opposition leader in a recent visit to China where she was invited by the ruling party there.



        In the prophet's mosque in Medina, alaihi was salam.



        Doing umrah in Saudi.



        With a Saudi official in Dhaka, she was invited by the Saudis as a VIP



        With Turkish president Abdullah Gul.



        With Turkish ambassador.



        Feudal landlady and corrupt Pakistani politician, Benazir, daughter of the notorious Ali Bhutto and wife of the current president of Pakistan, Mr 10% Zardari.



        Ultimately Khaleda won that clash, there are millions of Bengalis in Pakistan's largest city and with time their power and influence will increase insha'Allah with improved economic status. Ameen.
        Accurate information. Nearly all of the "Bun-kabab" stands in Karachi are operated by Bengalis. They have a pretty strong presence in that field. And sad but true, being called a "Bengali" in Karachi is like an insult.

        "Chup kar, Bangalee".
        "Aap nein Bangalee kis ko bola?"

        You know the rest. From what I have noticed, Bengalis are very sweet and humble people.
        Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

        A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

        For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


        The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

        -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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        • #5
          Oh, and it's impossible to stop Pashtuns of Afghanistan from entering Pakistan, and to stop Pashtuns of Pakistan from entering Afghanistan. Anyone with common sense would know why it's impossible. Sindhis, Punjabis, Tajiks and Hazaras can not tell which Pashtun is from Afghanistan or which Pashtun is from Pakistan.
          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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          • #6
            Well Admin Khan, having lived - and living and experiencing is a million times more than hearing - the reality of Pakistan you will know all this talk of Muslim "brotherhood" is nonsense.

            However from a strategic viewpoint with Bangladeshi economic growth and increased national pride in the next decade things will change. In Lebanon, the Shia were the poorest community and then became the strongest.

            Yes Bengalis are softer, calmer people than people from the north-west of the subcontinent and central Asia (Pashtuns are in both regions). We were majority Buddhist before Islam.

            However when we unite and act collectively we can really kick ass, as the British, Hindu Zamindars and Punjabis have found out.
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            • #7
              By the way, don't take the woman too seriously, she is just a typical PPP politician. The PPP is a racist anti-Bengali party whose leaders Ali Bhutto and Benazir both got killed, and whose interior minister doesn't know surah Ikhlas, who have landlords related to people who buried girls alive, and a former education minister who sold a girl of the age of 2 off for "marriage".

              Raza is just another typical PPP clown, as we know when PPP leader Benazir tried to send Bengalis back she failed, and we all know what finally happened to Benazir.

              Profile of Shehla Raza
              By Qazi Asif

              KARACHI: Prior to her unopposed election Sunday as the deputy speaker of the ninth Sindh Assembly, 42-year-old Shehla Raza was mostly recognized for a tragedy that shocked Karachi. She lost both of her children, 13-year-old Aks-e-Batool and 11-year-old Shayan Ahmed, in a horrific car accident in 2005.

              Raza’s political career began with the Peoples Students Federation (PSF) at the University of Karachi in 1986. She became the PSF girls wing joint secretary at KU and worked at KU and other colleges till 1988 when she was elected the joint secretary of the PPP ladies wing Karachi.

              After the end of the PPP government, she was arrested on December 27, 1990 on the allegations of a double murder and possession of illegal arms. She was kept at the CIA centre in Karachi for 24 days where she was tortured. Since has been imprisoned for a total of four months and fifteen days in several jails.

              Raza married in 1991 and her daughter was born a year later and her son in 1994. After 1997, her husband Ghulam Qadir was transferred to Islamabad and she continued her political work in Wah Cantt and Rawalpindi.

              She was back in Karachi in 2000 and by 2005 became the general secretary of the PPP ladies wing Karachi division. The same year, her children died in an accident.

              Raza comes from a middle class family and she lives in Gulistan-e-Jauhar.
              http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...-4-2008_pg12_6

              This has been a bad week for the PPP with their interior minister humiliated in front of millions for not being able to recite a surah, and their playboy governor of Punjab eliminated.
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              • #8
                What are 1-3 million bengalis doing in pakistan? they should be sent back to bangladesh. These bengalis of karachi are in MQM and are enemies and killers of pashtuns/afghans.

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                • #9
                  Punjabi

                  1. Your nation created Sikhism.

                  2. Your nation created Qadianism.

                  3. Punjabis killed Turkish Muslim soldiers in Mecca at the orders of the British, the 14th Punjab regiment.

                  4. Punjabis helped Ranjit Singh to conquer Pekhawar. You Punjabis helped Sikhs to conquer Muslim land and rule over Muslims....la hawla wa la quwwata illa billa...ya Punjabi kutta, ya be-ghairat, aql nihe shaql nihe Bhangra sardar jee dhalkor Punjabi kutta!

                  5. WE SMASSSSSSSSSHED your Bhangra Sardar jee loser army in 1971 despite you getting help from Henry Kissinger the Zionist Jew and communist China. Since that defeat you Punjabis have been boiling with blood over this humiliation!



                  Punjabi false prophet who worked with the British, Mirza Ghulam.

                  6. It was Bengalis who created Pakistan. The Muslim league was founded in Dhaka. Bengalis were the majority in Pakistan and we were the main earners, though our money was taken to subsidize your west Pakistan, so your country is built on our money. We also saved your ass in 1965 when the East Bengal regiment stopped your brothers the Sikhs from taking Lahore.

                  7. In India to be a Sardar jee, a Punjabi is a source of shame and a Punjabi is seen as a clown and a fool....lol.

                  The Mohajir calls you a "degah".

                  The Bengalis calls you a "loser"... "a defeated loser"

                  The Pashtun calls you a "dhalkor"

                  The Indian calls you a "sardar jee"

                  The world calls you a "terrorist".

                  So be-ghairat Punjabi do not ever dare to speak to me again in this forum, we have already given you 1971 you traitor and you have been squealing like pigs for 40 years, we can give you more.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Luffy Bhangra dhalkor Singh View Post
                    What are 1-3 million bengalis doing in pakistan? they should be sent back to bangladesh. These bengalis of karachi are in MQM and are enemies and killers of pashtuns/afghans.
                    Punjabi, there are Pashtuns in the MQM including an Achakzai.

                    There are Pashtuns in the TTP who kill Pashtuns, there are Pashtuns in the ISI who kill Pashtuns.

                    You are the biggest Bengali-hater on this forum. I don't even know why a Pashto-speaking Hindko traitor like you is on this forum. Everybody hates you especially the Afghan Pashtuns.

                    Who killed Benazir Bhutto? Bengalis?

                    Who killed Taseer Salman? Bengalis?

                    Who kills people in mosques? Bengalis?

                    Who kills people in refugee camps? Bengalis?

                    Who killed Ali Bhutto? Bengalis?

                    No, Pakistanis.

                    By the way you tried anti-Bengali expulsions before and Khaleda taught you a lesson...lol

                    Punjabis, eternal losers....hahaha.
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                    • #11
                      Mr.bengali try to have some control on your emotions and harmones. Too much anger may loosen your urinary bladder.

                      Kindly stop spreading hate against punjabis, they are our hanafi muslim brothers.
                      Bengalis are enemies of pashtuns, it is a fact. You people massacred thousands of pashtun families trapped in east pakistan. You people join MQM to kill us.

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                      • #12
                        ^This is not bengali appreciation thread nor it is punjabi bashing thread.

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                        • #13
                          The 1-3 million people that you refer to as 'bengalis' are BIHARIS. Bengali or bihari they are Pakistanis, despite what the anti-Pak shticks harp about. That's where 'bun-kabob' comes from, Biharis are famous for their kabobs. Jesus, people like to talk a lot without knowing jack.

                          Oh, and they also hate fat-cat 'pathans', but that's also probably the isi's fault.

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                          • #14
                            There are Biharis such as Altaf Hussain, Rashed Latif and others.

                            Then there are Bengalis.

                            1. Some of the Bengalis in Karachi are pre-71 Pakistani citizens who wanted a united Pakistan.

                            2. Others are immigrants.

                            The Bengalis of Karachi have adopted a Pakistani identity and are loyal to Pakistan.

                            Politically both the Punjabi dominated PML-N and the Urdu-speaking MQM have tried to cater to them (by the way there have been incidents of PML-N Bengalis and MQM Bengalis fighting each other). The PTI (Imran Khan's party) has also supported local Bengalis.

                            The Sindhi-Balochi dominated PPP has no interest in appealing to them since the PPP in Sindh carries more Sindhi nationalism and sees Bengalis as part of the demographic threat to Sindh.

                            However the real Sindhi nationalists (the PPP are not real Sindhi nationalists but a party of corrupt feudals, Ali Bhutto cracked down on the real Sindhi nationalists) are a different story.

                            The father of modern Sindhi nationalism, G.M. Syed is regarded as a hero in Bangladesh and even last month was once again given some sort of posthumous award by the government in our victory day, December 16th. G.M. Syed is a hero in Bangladesh and was a friend of Mujib (rahmatullahi alaih).



                            Syed with Mujib

                            The current main Sindhi leader is President Qadir Magsi, if Sindh gains freedom he may possibly become the first president of Sindh. Sindh belongs to Sindhis and not to Punjabis, Bengalis or any other race, so Sindhis and President Magsi will decide what happens in Sindh.




                            President Qadir Magsi, freedom campaigner and politician.

                            In terms of Pakistani Bengalis there are quite a few and include Alamgir the singer.



                            Pakistani Bengali singer born in Bangladesh, Alamgir on the left.



                            With Bangladeshi singer, Runa Laila.

                            Ironically another Bangladeshi singer is Shahnaz Begum, famous for singing Pakistani patriotic songs.
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                            • #15
                              YouTube - Patriotic Song From Pakistan Sohni Dharti Allah Rakhy Shenaz Begum


                              After Bangladeshi freedom she moved back to her native Bangladesh and has also sung Bengali songs.

                              YouTube - Shahnaz Rahmat Ullah - Khola Janalye - Blast from the Past[/COLOR][/U]

                              There are also many Bengali teachers in the madrassas of Karachis. There is one Imam who speaks on Iqra channel and is from the very same district as me in Bangladesh.

                              Prior to the 1971 war, Bengalis like today's Mohajirs were essentially loyal Pakistanis but acutely aware of the racism and injustice of the united Pakistan, where though they were the majority they were treated as a colony.

                              However Bangladesh has won its freedom and is doing well with 5-6% economic growth every year, one of the NEXT 11 according to Goldman Sachs i.e. countries that will be major economies, as well as possibly heading towards a $1 trillion economy in 20 years.

                              The Sindhis however have not won their freedom yet, neither from the Punjabis or from the Waderas (feudal landlords) or the PPP (feudal party), however we may see President Qadir Magsi leading the 50 million people of Sindh to freedom.

                              JIYE ISLAM!
                              JIYE SINDH!
                              JIYE QADIR MAGSI!

                              Last edited by Bengal_Tiger; 01-07-2011, 12:52 PM.
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