Who would Afghanis support in any India Pakistan war ??

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

i am a refugee because you are not an afghan. why would i fight a war along with you when i first have to settle things down with you? huh?

Dear sister,

read my post again with a calm heart and let go of you're anger.

It isnt really that hard.

We are on the same side here.

[abubaker]

So an Afghan will be sold very cheaply to fight on the Punjab border with India, If so and if true, then i will never consider myself an Pashtun nor an Afghan.

i dont care what you consider your self, you could be a martian for all i care

[IamDZJ]

Do you like calling yourself a refugee huh? or do you like making the usual martyr of your self?

You are not a refugee simply because you are Afghan and regions of Pakistan (Khyber & Balochistan) have been Afghan homeland for thousands of years. You can never be a refugee in your own homeland.

OK so the modern teems do make this so, because of countries and borders and so on. But as an Afghan do you bound yourself to borders?

I dont. I believe I am an Afghan and not only Pakistan but Afghanistan is my home. Period.

when your army or police gathers our afghans poeple who have been living in your country for over 20 years and are born there..tie them to each other's sleeves and locks them up for a few nights and then drops them behind the border, then we are "refugees" but if heaven forbid a war between india and pakistan takes place we are welcome to fight along with you?
ANY ONE, ANY AFGHAN WHO IS WILLING TO FIGHT ALONG WITH YOU IS A CHEAP OWNED LITTLE BEGHAIRAT WHO IS SELLING OFF HIS COUNTRY AND HIS PEOPLE FOR GOD KNOWS WAT.

[IamDZJ]

Dear sister,

read my post again with a calm heart and let go of you're anger.

It isnt really that hard.

We are on the same side here.

Talk is very cheap khushal, actions speak louder. Being angry motivates me to speak the truth. Minus that, I m another happy peace bringing caward.

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

when your army or police gathers our afghans poeple who have been living in your country for over 20 years and are born there..tie them to each other's sleeves and locks them up for a few nights and then drops them behind the border, then we are "refugees" but if heaven forbid a war between india and pakistan takes place we are welcome to fight along with you?
.

Are you lying? > No.
Are you depicting real life situations? > Yes.
Does it help you or me? > No.

Explanation:

This feeling that you are having is called learned helplessness and some call it making a martyr of ones self.

All the things you mentioned above are true, I have seen them myslef. Here's the deal !!

1) When bombs go off in our (Pakistani) cities they usually round up suspects, these so called suspects are mostly Pushtuns (both Afghanistanis and Pakistanis), so were equally targeted. You cant make a martyr of yourself here.

2) Why does the Govt. do this? their reasoning: statistically all those who have blown themselves up are in the majority Afghans (Pakistani and Afghanistani) so:

a) the bad guys plot their evil plans by planting the baddies in these refugee camps or where Afghans predominate.
b) once something bad happens these people are lined up
c) the Afghans and the people in these camps get a bad name.
d) in the next incident they are again the first to be lined up.

This includes both Pakistani and Afghanistani Pushtuns. Again we are equally targeted here. You cannot make a martyr of yourself here either.

3) How do the Pushtuns of Pakistan feel about this? really >

4) Now, tell me doesnt the same thing happen to you as a Muslim as well??. Like it or not if your'e a Muslim and in the foreign, you will usually be among the first to be lined up.



The thing is, in the times that we live in, both Muslim and Afghans (Pushtuns) are selectively being targeted.This is really sad. But will cursing, spitting, being angry at your'e own kind especially fellow Afghans achieve anything?.

This is not the way to do it.

We have to be united, strong, advance through education and build our countries. That is the only way we can not be distrusted or hated.

As for us Pakistani Afghans, we always voice our concern against selectively targeting Pushtuns, for damaging Afghanistan, and so on.
This is all we can do. If it is not good enough then I suppose we will have to double our efforts.

[abubaker]

zama pa khaial chey sok zan tha pakistani wai hagha da sara musalman na dey. you will fight for those who destroy you country? weekh sha mara!
if you realy want to fight then fight with these napki murtad devils.
nor taso kha aw bad zama na kha pejanii
ka bada mi owey?

di pakistan aukmath pa musalmani bandi di qani na yam, zma na khudai kha poihegee,

au di musalman khabara mi di depara waklda si di Afghanistan pa kharabi do ke di am pakistani tsa gunah da, ka pakistan sara mrastha kawam ham no di ham pakistani dipara bai kawam si zma mualman wror da, di pakistan aukmath, thar tso si za wayam hamda was di waswazi, ma tha di Pakistan au di Afghanistan au di saudi aumath yaw shai di, di kufaro ghulaman

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

Talk is very cheap khushal, actions speak louder.

Yeah, what have you practically done for Afghans?
I have done many things, I Thank God for providing the opportunity to me to help them.

Plus this is a forum, we are supposed to talk here.

Being angry motivates me to speak the truth.

Too much Anger is the way that leads to the devil my dear.

Minus that, I m another happy peace bringing caward.

A peace bringer you say?
Our Prophet PBUH was one of the greatest peace bringers. What do you have to say about him and his peace bringing?

Look, working for unity and peace is not cowardice, nor being angry and mad all the time is brave. Real bravery comes from knowing youre weaknesses and overcoming them, especially if this means that your anger might prevent you from peace and unity with other good people.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Yeah, what have you practically done for Afghans?
I have done many things, I Thank God for providing the opportunity to me to help them.

Plus this is a forum, we are supposed to talk here.



Too much Anger is the way that leads to the devil my dear.



A peace bringer you say?
Our Prophet PBUH was one of the greatest peace bringers. What do you have to say about him and his peace bringing?

Look, working for unity and peace is not cowardice, nor being angry and mad all the time is brave. Real bravery comes from knowing youre weaknesses and overcoming them, especially if this means that your anger might prevent you from peace and unity with other good people.

If Jinnah or Pakistan is truely an Islamic state then why do they enforce British made laws such as FCR onto Pashtuns and not their own Rural Punjabis? Pakistan is a fraud, its an ideology that best suited those mojjars and punjabis from India. If its a islamic thing, then why are there more muslims in India than whole of Pakistan.

[abubaker]

tha da khinzeran pejandaley na dey. yaw jondey mesal da waziristan da pakhtano ogoraa, da hom hagha khalak di kam chey da napakistan da para pa kashmir ki da hind sara jangedali di aw wass warla da napak foj korona waranii.
swat, bajawar,waziristan tha ogora kanah sechal ye warsara wakroo^
di tha tho mosalmaney wey?
aw wass chey hom tho da qoida azam laantullah alihe da napak qom dapara khapal qematey wakht kharabey jo warza...taokal pa khodey di
da khabarai dartha zaka koma chey zamong wror ye khafakego darbandey

zma post di wa na lwasth? za di pakistna di aumo klago khabara kawam di faug na, au pa hagho aamo khaldgo di waziristan khalg hum razi

[MazloomyarMaseed]

zma post di wa na lwasth? za di pakistna di aumo klago khabara kawam di faug na, au pa hagho aamo khaldgo di waziristan khalg hum razi

If people of Waziriatan are citizens of Pakistan then why does Pakistan enforce FCR on only them and other tribal areas but not punjab etc

[abubaker]

If people of Waziriatan are citizens of Pakistan then why does Pakistan enforce FCR on only them and other tribal areas but not punjab etc

like i said the government there is a western slave just like the afghan government, they are still using the same british politics that murtad jinah used

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

What is FCR?

British made laW (back in the time of the British Empire of India).
This was made to crush, subjugate & control Afghans of current day Pakistan.
Very barbaric and non democratic.
After Pakistan was formed, this was removed from parts Of Khyber and Balochistan.
However it has not been removed from FATA (Tribal areas) because this requires political movement which the tribals never did nor were they helped by Pushtuns outside the FATA.

Result = FCR till today = No democracy and thence equality for people of Fata.

[شمله ور خراساني]

I hate Pakistani government and Pakistani rule. I hate Pakistani government just as much as I hate Afghanistans government.

I wish both governments and their leaders and staff were overthrown.

But in Islam, it is KUFR to align yourself against Muslims.

5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends: They are but friends to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.


Although Indians are not Christians and Jews, they still are kuffaar. And therefor it is obligatory on all Muslims to align themselves with their Muslim brethren. Even if their Muslim brethren are unjust or corrupt.

[IamDZJ]

khushal i have not done anything for afghans which is why i don't expect them to fight a war in which they don't believe in for my sake.
i m sure that while you were helping them, had you told them that you help comes with intentions as such, no one would have wanted it. you are helping our poor and needy so tomorrow you can have them march on with you and fight a war with a country they have nothing against? you are buying their blood? SAVE IT.
i repeat myself, TALK IS CHEAP AND YOU ARE VERY GOOD AT IT.
ka bal zal da peghor rakari wo no bia ona waye, chi da wale.


here is what i have not done for afghanistan: i did not sell it to pakistan in return of any type of selfish treacherous temporary acts of kindness.

[SwatiTheBrave1]

[COLOR=Blue]khushal i have not done anything for afghans which is why i don't expect them to fight a war in which they don't believe in for my sake.
i m sure that while you were helping them, had you told them that you help comes with intentions as such, no one would have wanted it. you are helping our poor and needy so tomorrow you can have them march on with you and fight a war with a country they have nothing against? you are buying their blood? SAVE IT.
i repeat myself, TALK IS CHEAP AND YOU ARE VERY GOOD AT IT.
ka bal zal da peghor rakari wo no bia ona waye, chi da wale.

here is what i have not done for afghanistan: i did not sell it to pakistan in return of any type of selfish treacherous temporary acts of kindness.

So you are telling people that afghans have sold Afghanistan to Pakistan?

How pathetic are you and your own quote applies on you "Talk is cheap and you are good at it"

Pathetic kid