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  • Few suggestions in the light of my recent critique of status quo

    Originally posted by rihana
    What do you think we need to change in order to improve?
    In another thread Rihana rightly asked the above question. Since I am very critical of the status quo I have not made any suggestions at what I think we ought to do instead of what we are doing right now.

    I believe what we are missing is zeal and ideology to gather us under one single banner. We don't have a unifying ideology that can unify us as a people. We don't have a leader that is generally accepted by all.

    Yet, all of these problems are not unique to us only. All Muslims share the same problems. We are divided on so many issues it is impossible to summarize them in a sensible manner.

    What we do have in common is our religion. Islam is the religion of nearly 2 billion people on this planet. But sadly, Muslims are divided in to sects and groups with conflicting beliefs and interpretations of Islam.

    I suggest we should go back to the core beliefs and practices of Islam as they were during the times of the prophet Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasallam. We need people to accept Islam the way it was revealed to us. And not follow our own desires trying to adapt religion to non-Islamic beliefs and ideologies.

    Once our religion is spread to wide audience in its pure shape. We can then focus on politically unifying various people under the banner of tawheed. It is idealism. And I am aware of that.

    This does not imply we should abandon all our current problems and situation and focus solely on the above suggestion. No.

    I believe that this should be the goal we all should pursue in general.

    But individually and in a smaller scale, we should emphasize on education of our younger generation. People must make sure all their children are educated. We need scientists, lawyers, medical doctors, political scientists, engineers, sociologists, psychologists and people who have mastered different crafts for the benefit of development and progress.

    We need to address our problems and make people aware of what plagues our people.

    We need people to translate academic literature into Pashto. We need books, educative institutions, publications, radio stations, satallite television and internet pages in Pashto.

    The more mass media available in Pashto, the easier to emancipate the people from darkness. Challenges to peoples ill customs such as abuse and deprivation of rights of women should be addressed. Drug abuse and alcoholims should be condemned. Worship of shrines and self-proclaimed saints and shamans should be condemned.

    Views and statements of charlatans posing as political leaders and public representatives should be challenged.

    We need people to take action.

    What we see now is Youtube filled with soft-porn in Pashto of jumping and hopping chubby *****s in Lahore to monotone and repetitive Pashto rhythms. But only a few channels on youtube have any useful content in Pashto. So are all shops in Afghanistan and Pakistan filled with these trash vcd's and cassettes. And yet, Pashto literature is very rare. Most of it is of such low quality, that you could mark whole pages with spelling errors.

    We need people to be aware of these matters. And we need them to take actions. People spend hours talking about how others are evil and such and so. And yet, they don't take any action themselves. All they do is argue with other people.

    For 1 year now I've been trying to contact people who are interested in translating good academic literature in sciences in to Pashto. Everyone admires my ideas. But so far everyone has disappointed me. All they do is say a few nice things and after a while you don't hear a single word from them.

    This type of mentality is so widespread that you rarely meet anyone who is actually willing to put a little effort to do something. Yet talking loud and quoting Khushak Khan Khattaks poetry is all we do.

    We should put more effort in constructive things instead of bashing each other and accusing each other.
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    Originally posted by Sangar View Post
    In another thread Rihana rightly asked the above question. Since I am very critical of the status quo I have not made any suggestions at what I think we ought to do instead of what we are doing right now.

    I believe what we are missing is zeal and ideology to gather us under one single banner. We don't have a unifying ideology that can unify us as a people. We don't have a leader that is generally accepted by all.

    Yet, all of these problems are not unique to us only. All Muslims share the same problems. We are divided on so many issues it is impossible to summarize them in a sensible manner.

    What we do have in common is our religion. Islam is the religion of nearly 2 billion people on this planet. But sadly, Muslims are divided in to sects and groups with conflicting beliefs and interpretations of Islam.

    I suggest we should go back to the core beliefs and practices of Islam as they were during the times of the prophet Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasallam. We need people to accept Islam the way it was revealed to us. And not follow our own desires trying to adapt religion to non-Islamic beliefs and ideologies.

    Once our religion is spread to wide audience in its pure shape. We can then focus on politically unifying various people under the banner of tawheed. It is idealism. And I am aware of that.

    This does not imply we should abandon all our current problems and situation and focus solely on the above suggestion. No.

    I believe that this should be the goal we all should pursue in general.

    But individually and in a smaller scale, we should emphasize on education of our younger generation. People must make sure all their children are educated. We need scientists, lawyers, medical doctors, political scientists, engineers, sociologists, psychologists and people who have mastered different crafts for the benefit of development and progress.

    We need to address our problems and make people aware of what plagues our people.

    We need people to translate academic literature into Pashto. We need books, educative institutions, publications, radio stations, satallite television and internet pages in Pashto.

    The more mass media available in Pashto, the easier to emancipate the people from darkness. Challenges to peoples ill customs such as abuse and deprivation of rights of women should be addressed. Drug abuse and alcoholims should be condemned. Worship of shrines and self-proclaimed saints and shamans should be condemned.

    Views and statements of charlatans posing as political leaders and public representatives should be challenged.

    We need people to take action.

    What we see now is Youtube filled with soft-porn in Pashto of jumping and hopping chubby *****s in Lahore to monotone and repetitive Pashto rhythms. But only a few channels on youtube have any useful content in Pashto. So are all shops in Afghanistan and Pakistan filled with these trash vcd's and cassettes. And yet, Pashto literature is very rare. Most of it is of such low quality, that you could mark whole pages with spelling errors.

    We need people to be aware of these matters. And we need them to take actions. People spend hours talking about how others are evil and such and so. And yet, they don't take any action themselves. All they do is argue with other people.

    For 1 year now I've been trying to contact people who are interested in translating good academic literature in sciences in to Pashto. Everyone admires my ideas. But so far everyone has disappointed me. All they do is say a few nice things and after a while you don't hear a single word from them.

    This type of mentality is so widespread that you rarely meet anyone who is actually willing to put a little effort to do something. Yet talking loud and quoting Khushak Khan Khattaks poetry is all we do.

    We should put more effort in constructive things instead of bashing each other and accusing each other.

    Quoting Khushal Khan khattaks Poetry,you truely are unreal, the reason why people may not follow your ideas because they proobably know what you are like, very sweet outside, but inside your words and intentions are poison. You do not want Pashtuns to progress, you want them to continue to be mercenaries for Arabs and especially Farsibans, Maybe this is the reason. if one looks at your posts, they can see your Anti Pashtun agenda, u insult historical figures, call them homosexuals etc.

    Nobody even likes a Salafi now a days, we dont need sciences translated into Pushto by Salafis or other Talib Alqueda supporters, you will as usual bring in the usual salafi non sense fairy tales.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by makeenMaseed View Post
      Quoting Khushal Khan khattaks Poetry,you truely are unreal, the reason why people may not follow your ideas because they proobably know what you are like, very sweet outside, but inside your words and intentions are poison. You do not want Pashtuns to progress, you want them to continue to be mercenaries for Arabs and especially Farsibans, Maybe this is the reason. if one looks at your posts, they can see your Anti Pashtun agenda, u insult historical figures, call them homosexuals etc.

      Nobody even likes a Salafi now a days, we dont need sciences translated into Pushto by Salafis or other Talib Alqueda supporters, you will as usual bring in the usual salafi non sense fairy tales.
      You must be a Sufi saint for you claim to have knowledge of the unseen( my intentions).
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sangar View Post
        You must be a Sufi saint for you claim to have knowledge of the unseen( my intentions).
        I dont believe in Fairy tales, i find you all a bunch of backward little Arabised cow boys!

        Sufi,Salafi,Shia,Wahabi, Ismaili etc etc etc until the end of time, there will be no such thing as Muslim Unity, Since your Salafi non sense is funed clearly by Saudi Oil and European investments, once its over, who will support and fund your Desert Ideologies, Your founder IBN Wahab was kicked out by his own people, what does this tell you? plus your followrs of your ideology living in Saudi Arabia were brought by kaffirs, ALso i can remmeber you Salafi nutjobs supporting the first Iraq war, and i remmeber how you were kissing the hands of Americans.

        You guys are just the messengers of Arab and Western Imperialism on Pashtuns, I hope the day will come when you are all rounded up and shamed, go and do your jihad in Dubai Mr Sanger, go and unite your Desert Turds.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by makeenMaseed View Post
          IBN Wahab
          Oh no! Did you just say Ibn Wahab? Are you now saying that Wahab has a son? Are you a Christian now who believes in Allah having a son?
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          • #6
            he could only do that if he knows AL WAHAB is one Allahs attributes

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            • #7
              You two are so funny it's not even funny.

              Sangar, I totally agree with you man. What's tablighi, what's salafi, what's hizbi? Man freaken unite under one banner, we have one thing in common, islam, but we have many talents. One group strives for aqeedah, the other for establishing a khilafah, and yet another in terms of da'wah. Rather than call each other deviants we should use our strengths to our benefits and unite under the banner of Islam, inshallah.

              Makeen, chill out. You seem like a person who just sits back and critisizes. Anyone can do that behind a computer screen so I hope you aren't under the impression that your "cool" or something. Seriously, say something NEW for god's sake? We've heard it a billion times over already. No, you can stay in that petty hole of low self esteem, so low you can't even look at Arabic text in fear of being "brainwashed" by it. Chill out dude, a vacation will do you good.
              I desire that which is Just - House of Dukemina.

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              • #8
                I believe what we are missing is zeal and ideology to gather us under one single banner. We don't have a unifying ideology that can unify us as a people. We don't have a leader that is generally accepted by all.

                The Unifying Ideology is contributing to humanity by learning science and technology in a politically stable Afghanistan.Religion is a private affair and everybody should be given the right to believe in those notions which are according to his or her intellectual level.

                Yet, all of these problems are not unique to us only. All Muslims share the same problems. We are divided on so many issues it is impossible to summarize them in a sensible manner.


                The existence of problem is not a problem it is making problem out of non problems and making issues out of non issues which is creating an issue for us which wastes our [Afghans'] energies.


                What we do have in common is our religion. Islam is the religion of nearly 2 billion people on this planet. But sadly, Muslims are divided in to sects and groups with conflicting beliefs and interpretations of Islam.

                By we,if you mean Afghans,then being Afghan is the only thing common between us.Islam may the religion of all the people on planet earth but this is of no use to us [Afghans].


                I suggest we should go back to the core beliefs and practices of Islam as they were during the times of the prophet Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasallam. We need people to accept Islam the way it was revealed to us. And not follow our own desires trying to adapt religion to non-Islamic beliefs and ideologies.

                Once our religion is spread to wide audience in its pure shape. We can then focus on politically unifying various people under the banner of tawheed. It is idealism. And I am aware of that.

                This does not imply we should abandon all our current problems and situation and focus solely on the above suggestion. No.I believe that this should be the goal we all should pursue in general.

                This is impossible by all standards of history,philosophy of history,science,logic and rationality ,not to talk about practicality.It is just a wishful dream for a person suffering from nostalgia.History never goes back it always moves forward,whether for "good" or for "bad"


                But individually and in a smaller scale, we should emphasize on education of our younger generation. People must make sure all their children are educated. We need scientists, lawyers, medical doctors, political scientists, engineers, sociologists, psychologists and people who have mastered different crafts for the benefit of development and progress.

                Preaching the people to persue the most unrealistic ideals and expecting them to achieve the most realistic goals.There a lot of things which maturity and consistency of thoughts teaches you if one has the intention to learn.


                We need to address our problems and make people aware of what plagues our people.

                First we need to make ourselves aware of the impending disaster due to the intrinsic intellectual conflict within us.

                We need people to translate academic literature into Pashto. We need books, educative institutions, publications, radio stations, satallite television and internet pages in Pashto.

                The more mass media available in Pashto, the easier to emancipate the people from darkness. Challenges to peoples ill customs such as abuse and deprivation of rights of women should be addressed. Drug abuse and alcoholims should be condemned. Worship of shrines and self-proclaimed saints and shamans should be condemned.

                Views and statements of charlatans posing as political leaders and public representatives should be challenged.

                For 1 year now I've been trying to contact people who are interested in translating good academic literature in sciences in to Pashto. Everyone admires my ideas. But so far everyone has disappointed me. All they do is say a few nice things and after a while you don't hear a single word from them.

                Excellent idea. Have you visited afghanjirga.net


                We need people to take action. What we see now is Youtube filled with soft-porn in Pashto of jumping and hopping chubby *****s in Lahore to monotone and repetitive Pashto rhythms. But only a few channels on youtube have any useful content in Pashto. So are all shops in Afghanistan and Pakistan filled with these trash vcd's and cassettes. And yet, Pashto literature is very rare. Most of it is of such low quality, that you could mark whole pages with spelling errors. We need people to be aware of these matters. And we need them to take actions. People spend hours talking about how others are evil and such and so. And yet, they don't take any action themselves. All they do is argue with other people.
                This type of mentality is so widespread that you rarely meet anyone who is actually willing to put a little effort to do something. Yet talking loud and quoting Khushak Khan Khattaks poetry is all we do. We should put more effort in constructive things instead of bashing each other and accusing each other.

                Action, if it is translated into the JIHAD BIL QALAM [Intellectual and literary contribution] will be appreciated.Any other form of action will give birth to reaction instead.
                Pir Rokhan

                http://Pashtoonkhwa.blogspot.com

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dukemina View Post
                  You two are so funny it's not even funny.

                  Sangar, I totally agree with you man. What's tablighi, what's salafi, what's hizbi? Man freaken unite under one banner, we have one thing in common, islam, but we have many talents. One group strives for aqeedah, the other for establishing a khilafah, and yet another in terms of da'wah. Rather than call each other deviants we should use our strengths to our benefits and unite under the banner of Islam, inshallah.

                  Makeen, chill out. You seem like a person who just sits back and critisizes. Anyone can do that behind a computer screen so I hope you aren't under the impression that your "cool" or something. Seriously, say something NEW for god's sake? We've heard it a billion times over already. No, you can stay in that petty hole of low self esteem, so low you can't even look at Arabic text in fear of being "brainwashed" by it. Chill out dude, a vacation will do you good.
                  But this is what i mean, read what he has written, Sangar wont unite under one banner as hes violently against sufis,shias etc.

                  Unite under the banner of Islam, you guys are truely out of this world. How many times has mankind united under the banner of Islam and its failed, if you want to unite, then go ahead, first starting by uniting with your Punjabi brothers in Pakistan, lets ee what they will do to you,if you dont support the unity of Pashtuns first, then everything else later, then you are a obstacle to Pashtun survival.

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