Big prize: Haqqani Network leader caught

[Azmal]

The biggest Imperialists are those Beduions from Arabia who have opened Shop in the Pashtun region to spread their backward,rapist Ideology of Violence, Backwardness and Murder in the name of Al Qaeda. Its become a big fashion on here to see those with Half Pashtun blood working against the Pashtun people.
You see Azmal, These Arabs or Half Arabs or Supporters/Mawalis of Arabs do not discuss the modern slavery trade in Sudan which is operated by Arabs, the way Arabs treat non Arab Muslims in labour camps in Dubai and Saudi, the way indonesian/Phillipino women are treated, how the kings son of the Wahabi Kingdom turned out to be a Homosexual murderer, oh what about the sucide bombings of our innocent folk who go to peaceful jirgas, or the Arab bedion culture that has destroyed and brought our own culturally rich region into the backwardness of Arab Bediions who hate everything.

Why dont they condem the attacks on our people? Why dont they discuss how Palestinians slaughter eachother daily, how Muslim Palestinians kill Christian Palestinians over tattoos of Jesus and a cross? and vice versa?

The Arab is a violent, intolarant region that must be tamed, its wrong for America to invade or any other western state, they should just place sanctions on them and let them be forced to civilise themselves.

Even a post war state such as Vietnam is more wealther and developed then most Arab states, without the Oil, lets see how long it takes before the world will not act against their barbaric savage ways.

Wahabism in reality is Arab nationalism. Arab nationalism(Wahabis) breaked Islamic caliphate.

http://www.islamdaily.org/en/wahabis...e-house-of.htm

[ScimitarXEdge]

On an internet forum are geared towards Pashtoon and/or Afghan issues primarily, what ends up discussed are whatever topics are brought up or posted which is primarily about Afghanistan/Pashtoons or whenever certain individuals attempt to bring up red herrings just as being done now in this thread.

Even then in past posts it was mentioned that most of the Middle Eastern leadership and South Asian leadership were either placed in power by Imperial Designs and ALL NATION-STATES are products of Imperialism. This would also include Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Dubai, Qatar, Bahrain. And yet we find those same certain individuals who are making a a hoo and cry about different ethnicities trying to PROMOTE NATION STATE Agendas. Wahhabism as others have demonstrated is a movement promoted by Imperialists against the Islamic System, not in favor.

If we examine any annal of history, the idea of Arab or even Islamic Imperialism is merely a forgery by European Orientalists who themselves were Proponents of European Imperialism. Imperialism has certain characteristics, only Europeans have met the characteristics of what constitutes imperialism; so we can't shout "Imperialism" in Retaliation as some sort of counter-balance. It doesn't work that way.

There has never been any time in history where an Arab or group of Arabs have claimed Afghanistan to now belong to the people of Arab Ethnicity. We have however seen the British attempt to claim Afghanistan and Pashtoon lands as property of Englishmen we have seen Russians claim Afghanistan as property of Russians. The same British and Russians who's culturally fabricated construct of Modernity; which CIA Controlled Imposters of Pashtoons extol as an ideal for Pashtoons to comply to; all this after making claims of how they value the noble culture of Pashtoons and then want it thrashed away under capitalist imperialism. This was also the case when such imposters spoke in defense of the Russians, which sacrificed 1.5 Million Afghan lives. The same person who said "Good Work USA", despite CIA role in it all.

That should demonstrate who's the really "working against Pashtoons" and Muslims in general.

On top of it all the Intellectually Dishonest Smokescreen tactics of Conflating Global Issues with Internal Problems of certain regions. What does Palestinians killing someone for a Cross Tattoo have to do with Geopolitics of Arabs? In Ireland Protestant was killed because they didn't have Catholic Rosary, this is their internal issue. The Slavery of the Sudanese is a terrible evil, but all Sudanese are blacks, so it has nothing to do with Arabs; but it certain does have to do with Divide and Rule schemes of former Imperial Presence, just like the situation of Iraq. Such problems existed amongst Pashtoons as well in regards to Hazaras as the British Puppet King Abdur Rahman Khan did grave atrocities against them, including putting them into slavery. This was long before "AlQaeda" was even a word. AlQaeda itself was essentially a product of CIA collusion. The crimes that happen at the hands of Leaders of the Arab Peninsula are precisely because their power base in maintained by the Imperial Design; and that same Imperial Design is imposing itself in Afghanistan, created Pakistan and other Nation States and is largely opposed by Muslims all over Arab and Non-Arab alike; most Muslims acknowledge the Saudis and Gulf Leaders are corrupt and decadent, most in the Arab world would like to see them deposed, but because of Imperial Military Support such an venture would not be feasible. The issues of violence is just a reality of Human Existence; it has nothing to do with Arabs, Persians or Pashtoons, just humanity.


In Summary to make these attempts at conflating issues by ethnicity antics are just again Divide and Rule Tactics. So it is not an issue of being Mawali of the Arabs, it's an issue of those who are Chakaran of the Farangyan

[Toramana]

Arab imperialism is very real and has had many forms and manifestations. Right now, the basic issue that is driving Arab masses and elite crazy is the disparity between their size and the geopolitical power they enjoy. They think we are almost 300 millions spread over parts of two continents with oil, trade-routes, and strategic geography yet we don't have a say in world affairs commensurate with our resources and size. And this is exacerbated by the feeling of humuliation they have due to defeat at the hands of a tiny state like Isreal.

Arab nationalism in modern times has sought revival in two forms; the liberal-secular form (Jamal Abdul Nasir); and Islamist form (Wahabi sultanat, Akhwani ideology, etc.).

[ScimitarXEdge]

The only people who say Arab Imperialism is real are Capitalist/Globalist Neo-Imperialists to exacerbate rifts between any attempt of Cross-Ethnic cooperation against the Imperial Agenda and Cronies who out of feelings of inferiority thinking that being bed fellows with the Proverbial Devil will grant them a special seat at the table of iniquity; wait till they find out what the European Colonialists have in store for such people.

It takes more than saying "Arab Imperialism" is real

Ethnic Nationalism is ALWAYS secular; therefore to conflate Islamist with Arab Nationalism is precisely the Intellectually Dishonest IMperial divide and Rule scheme that is being described. More evidence considering that most Islamic Groups were in opposition to Arab Nationalist Groups. None the less this doesn't mean Islamic groups did not get played as well. It just means their foundations are internally at odds.

The Dichotomy of Israel vs. Arab States is a facade, since Modern Nation States are creations of the same entity, European Imperialists, this applies to Israel and Arab, there is no feeling of humiliation, all this exists by design. Everything from Israel's military capacity being Engineered by France, Britain and the U.S. to Saudi Monarchies artificial Power Structure by being clients of the British.

Anyone who is attempting to conflate Arab Nationalism with Islam and/or trying to say there's an 'islamic" form of Arab Nationalism; clearly is ignorant of what Ethnic Nationalism and Religion means; it's only a smokescreen tactic which is CIA crafted, so you know who's payroll such individuals are on.

Arab Nationalism is either secular, and has no religious or it's not Ethnic nationalism at all.

[Alchemist]

Arab imperialism is very real and has had many forms and manifestations.

Reading your analogies is like painting a cow's face with a butcher's axe on a donkey's butt.

In other words: You don't make sense!

Arab nationalism in modern times has sought revival in two forms; the liberal-secular form (Jamal Abdul Nasir); and Islamist form (Wahabi sultanat, Akhwani ideology, etc.).

Nationalism means having a flag, a national anthem, an army, a government with different branches which culminates and transcends into a "national identity".
Islam-ism is the ideologically skewed theological justification for rebelian against tyranny.

In other words, how the f does "arab nationalism" "revive" through "islamisim". Islamist like Whabbis and Akhwanis are known to have accepted the khilafat of Ottomon Sultanat. Ergo, history contradicts your "intuition".

Right now, the basic issue that is driving Arab masses and elite crazy is the disparity between their size and the geopolitical power they enjoy. They think we are almost 300 millions spread over parts of two continents with oil, trade-routes, and strategic geography yet we don't have a say in world affairs commensurate with our resources and size. And this is exacerbated by the feeling of humuliation they have due to defeat at the hands of a tiny state like Isreal.

The fact of the matter is that not everyone in Arabia is happy but niether most of the people everywhere else in the world. I fail to see why you are more obsessed with the arabs in particular. We have had buddhist influence and hindu influence and greek influecce and western influence ..and now indians are in Khyber and the greeks are too all lead by the anglos..so why are you picking on the arabs? Did communism have the answer? Did british have a better influence on our history than the arabs have had in the past 300 years??
I sense there is something more personal between you and arabs that you haven't shared with us.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Alchemist, they speak from the understanding of someone who's a complete outsider to the history and social dynamics of the Muslim world/

Most of their ilk don't even know the Great Afghan Forefather of Modern Islamic Revivalism was Sayyid Jamaluddin Al-Afghani, the Jewel of Kunarh Province in Afghanistan.

And that Islamists from the Arab world all drew inspiration and guidance from him; and of course they were supporters for the Non-Arab leadership of the Ottomon Khilafah against the British cronies the House of Saudi and Kuwaiti Al-Sabah family.

Only people who are outsiders have a different picture of the scenario; and will try and desperately twist facts to make it seem otherwise.

Oh and the reason these people don't say a peep about Anglo, American, French and Greeks etc etc on their soil imposing their Military occupation with impunity: They're one of them. Surprise!

[ScimitarXEdge]

I'm not a defender of Haqqani, Haqqani is just someone lost in the paradox of so called Islam and Nihilism

The French and Americans have never defended anything, they merely orchestrated and then exploited situations for their own agenda.

I don't view America letting our parents into this country as somehow evidence of their good will and demonstration of rights and pluralism. This is merely a small facade of the bigger picture. The capitalist global hegemony has distorted and imposed institutions which render the faculties of different areas of the planet no longer functional, whether it's by imposing it's bureacracy, instituting different types of infrastructure which cause dramatic scarcity or fighting over resources and markets. We are not in our current lands and dependent on theirs because of the Global Imbalance they created, sustain and purvey.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Did the Americans not defeat England and defended the US while defeating them?

Why not? have you been to Europe? Scimitor you have rights in the USA, no one questions you. You can walk around in Booty shorts and no one cares. That is the benefit for secularism. There is no police that enforces their interpretation of Islam. You whether you go to any nation reap benefits of secularism.

I don't believe the Americans "defeated" the English but just helped the ascension of power of English banks.

those are not "rights" those are social corruptions. Just because their's no police that enforces a "certain interpretation" of Islam, doesn't mean the environment created is valid; in fact quite the opposite, it promotes corruption which is a form of oppression no different than the Taliban's oppressions. No one questions you unless you go against the status quo.

One point Ted Kaczynski (The Unabomber ) remarked is that the concept of Freedom in America is only that Administered by the Status Quo; meaning everyone's idea of freedom, especially when you mention something like "Booty Shorts" is something manufactured and indoctrinated artifically; it's not actual freedom but this psychological facade being guised under the term freedom. Once your actions are a threat to that status quo, kiss your freedom bye bye. So much for secularism protecting freedom?


being the opposite of the Taliban does not automatically imply following the correct principles.

[Toramana]

Alchemist, they speak from the understanding of someone who's a complete outsider to the history and social dynamics of the Muslim world

Could you enlighten us on the social dynamics of the Muslim world and how it comes to bear on Muslim history revolving around dynastic struggle and cultural and political rivalry between Arabs, Turks, and Persians not to mention the anarchiac ambitious of Hindustani Muslims who are the new entrants into the fray.

Most of their ilk don't even know the Great Afghan Forefather of Modern Islamic Revivalism was Sayyid Jamaluddin Al-Afghani, the Jewel of Kunarh Province in Afghanistan.

This is plainly ridiculous. The origin of Jamaluddin Afghani is controversial with both Iran and Afghanistan laying claims to him. There is little evidence to suggest he had any strong association with Afghanistan. Neither ever Pashtuns were at point of time followers of and subscribers to his Pan-Muslim philosphy (that caters to the political and cultural interests of stronger Muslim natiions like Turks, Arabs, etc.) any significantly. Political Islam was never a product of Pashtun society until the West and Hindustani religio-Muslim elite popularised and used it.

Oh and the reason these people don't say a peep about Anglo, American, French and Greeks etc etc on their soil imposing their Military occupation with impunity: They're one of them. Surprise!

The wars were motivated by Pashtuns' desire to be free and have not only been fought against non-Muslims but also Muslims e.g. Arabs, Mughals, Persians, etc. However, time has changed and so has changed the majority of Pashtuns not liking to fight but to pursue peaceful aspirations of good life.

[graveyardofempires]

Wahabism in reality is Arab nationalism. Arab nationalism(Wahabis) breaked Islamic caliphate.

http://www.islamdaily.org/en/wahabis...e-house-of.htm

and this has anything to do with Afghanistan or pashtuns?
or are you telling us that this fight is about arab nationalism?

[graveyardofempires]

you are a BIG FOOL

have you heard of fake news??

this guy is walking talking isis disinformation robot agent.
he think HE knows,but all he knows is that he knows nothing.