Why do Afghani Pashtuns hate Pakistan?

[Toramana]

And here you go...

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/pakist...za4oct1954.htm

[Toramana]

What is actually itching Pakistanis (Punjabis-Mahajars) is the fact that a stable Afghanistan in alliance with global powers or regional powers cannot be directly controlled/influenced by them, whereas they want Afghanistan as a client state or a fifth province (a dirty backyard for the Punjabi power )...During the Cold War, Punjabis have sold Pashtun blood taking advantage of the strategic location of Pashtun land and Afghanistan ...Now that the Cold War is over and a new regional order is about to emerge in which Pakistan would not be having the paramount position as it had during the Cold War, Pakistanis are getting irritated...being itched....

What do they want ----a complete slave like Mullah Ummar which Pakis/Punjabis could use to sell Pashtun/Afghan land through again and again...so three levels of slavery ...Punjabis masters of Pashtuns and Americans/West master of Punjabis....

I will prefer my Pashtun brother Karzai instead of a dark-hearted Punjabi ...at least that would bring some benefit to Pashtun nation and culture....What do I share with a Punjabi and how can he/she be sincere to me?

[gadoonwal]

Few reasons here.
Pakistan ,s interference in afghan affairs.
Pakistan stolen billions of dollars aid during soviet-afghan war.
The so called talibanization of Afghanistan.
Pakistan ,s divide and rule policy in afghanistan.
And durandline.
Iran is also playing ethnic card by supporting persains and hazaras IN Afghanistan.
Now the mastermind of terror USA is fighting against the above invaders for the control of afghan land.
Poor afghans still searching for food and shelters.The evils continue their businesses.

[Toramana]

Few reasons here.
Pakistan ,s interference in afghan affairs.
Pakistan stolen billions of dollars aid during soviet-afghan war.
The so called talibanization of Afghanistan.
Pakistan ,s divide and rule policy in afghanistan.
And durandline.
Iran is also playing ethnic card by supporting persains and hazaras IN Afghanistan.
Now the mastermind of terror USA is fighting against the above invaders for the control of afghan land.
Poor afghans still searching for food and shelters.The evils continue their businesses.

gadoonwal, Pakistanis in particular mean Punjabi-Mahajars...they are the ethnicities ruling Pakistan...although there may be some Pathans employed with Punjabi-Mahajars in subservient posituon as junior partners...

[Azmal]

Azmal, mr.tough guy, karzai fake pashtun arse kisser or whatever your name is, thank you so much for your post i hope Admin is reading this your the definition of the destruction of pashtuns we have from within you disloyal waste, your post was the prime example of the piss taking attitude your people have against my people in pashtunkhwa "ta bandi ma bandi" is that what you say behind closed doors is it?? what else and other names to you have for 30 million other pashtuns in pakistan? dhaalkhor, ranjit singh what else?? zamoong pa kali laar BANDI raasha, da yow kas sara pishaari ooka, biya ba gooroo che STAA BANDI largi oomandi ka na. you stupid bratt im glad im one of the few that realize your plastic smiles. your a bad mouthing half witted imbicile that spews the most vile hate and racism known here. people like you need a reality check and a smack in the face from your surroundings to bring your arrogant ass back to the ground. despite who you claim you are or where you come from your a nobody that talks like the number one authority on human beings, you make me sick, frankly with an atitude like yours i feel sorry for the people that are forced to be your friends or colleges, how do you walk around in the country you dwell in while your surrounded by simple minded low life human beings, i mean you come from the greatest country ever known to man called afghanistan, how do you do it??!? i mean you people are above humans can i have your autograph for giving me the chance to reply back to you????
your a SILLY little bigot that stands up for a man which is elected by the angrez and which works to marginalize the pashtuns BUT then has the nerve to call someone else that he doesnt even know a slave of the angrez LOL look at yourself you hypocrtical bigot you just stabbed yourself in the foot. even afghan nationilst here realise the threat from the karzai regime and i hope they see the backstabing najibullah pashtun that you are. are the angrez not in afghanistan now? have the not killed THOUSANDS?? you should be banned for such a crude statement, please dont show yourself up anymore.
your talking about something that pakistan does but you dont have half the brain to read where i wrote that i dont support pakistan, to add to that i have no control over what the people in pakistan support or stand for, you however on the other hand have a free will and personaly get on your knees to the angreez by way of supporting one of their puppets.

You'd know better than anyone that you've neither the intellect, nor the moral courage to debate me on any given issue Mule…but just for the sake of other members let me try to put it nicely to you. First, just because Pashtonistan has lowly, wh.oring scoundrels like you, who is for Durrand line, keeping pashton divided, in check and backward doesn’t mean rest of my blood brothers and sisters in occupied Pashtonsitan share your shame.
Second the Issue of Durrand line and Pashton reunification are of immense national interest and while any Pashtons has the right to disagree on unification or any other, he’ll still have to explain how his arguments to the contrary better serves the Pashtons national interest. Tell us why you’re so eager to serve the interests of Pakistan over that of your own Pashtons?. Why do you wish for Pashtons to remain land-locked and forever condemned to asking permission from Punjabian for access to the international trading routes? Its a fact that Pakistan not only threatens the survival of Pashtons (our) culture, language, heritage , identity and noble values , but even our existence as a people as well. Worst off Pakistan violate the sanctity of Islam by using Islam when it’s convenient. You can’t just pick and choose parts of Islam to justify its society and then ignore thee rest. That is travesty to Islam. Islam and our Pashton culture teaches us to be ruled by ourselves and not by others, and being apart of Pakistan a country which is not formed by our OWN authority is a violation of both ethics. Last but not least…perhaps you’d wish to enlighten as to which current Pashton leader in your opinion is willing to be remembered as the one who served the enemy by accepting Durrand line while for the first time in our history, Pashtons father land-- Afghanistan enjoys an advantage?
Come on..…I dare you to stand your ground—(pro-Pakistan occupation of Pashtonistan)..or even defend a single Pakistani character that you may fancy with a slim chance of defending…just one is all I ask…go on, I dare you...surprise me with the odd display of a Pakistani's courage...

[Azmal]

Another episode...In 1950s, General Nasir of Egypt nationalised the Suiz Cannal...Britian, France, and Israel were very frurious and planned to attack Egypt... Hussain Shaheed Suharwardi was PM of Pakistan ... when some people demanded Pakistan govt should condemn the attack by Britian, France, and Isreal and that, there should be an alliance of Muslim countries, Hussain Shaheed Suharwardi replied, "all Muslim countries are like zeroes, so zero plus zero plus zero...is equal to zero...And that we need an alliance with a strong country like US". He further said, "it is good Britian, France etc. will teach Egyptians good behaviour"...

Pakistan at that time was member of SEATO, CENTo, etc.

And just because an American threat to bomb Pakistan back into the stone age sent these pakis shameless and hypocritical leader into a comical frenzy that landed their lips on the buttocks of the American Jewish lobby, but still that doesn’t guarantee them a future ya know. These pakisleader’s theatrics may be amusing, but they will sink none the less. Nobody’s naive enough to trust the greatest proliferators of terrorism and nuclear technology. It’s not a question of “IF” but “WHEN” Pakistan is torn apart.

[Michin Khel]

Officially Pakistan dont consider afghanistan as its enemy, actually afghans are obsessed with pakistan. Actually afghanistan is not so important to be given status of enemy or rival. Pakistan has already headache from east side.

[Michin Khel]

I love my pashtuns on west of durand kho mata andaza washa che halato takaza da da che status quo ba felhal sabar wako.
Lar o bar yo pashtun but when our motherland will become a developed and stable country then there is a chance for unity.

[r3alist]

afghan pushtuns have an imaginary idea that they have been rejected by their own pashtuns, that is why they are angry.

then in afghanistan their own afghan pashtuns became taliban.

combine the two and you can understand the anger.

[Manzareh]

You'd know better than anyone that you've neither the intellect, nor the moral courage to debate me on any given issue Mule…but just for the sake of other members let me try to put it nicely to you. First, just because Pashtonistan has lowly, wh.oring scoundrels like you, who is for Durrand line, keeping pashton divided, in check and backward doesn’t mean rest of my blood brothers and sisters in occupied Pashtonsitan share your shame.
Second the Issue of Durrand line and Pashton reunification are of immense national interest and while any Pashtons has the right to disagree on unification or any other, he’ll still have to explain how his arguments to the contrary better serves the Pashtons national interest. Tell us why you’re so eager to serve the interests of Pakistan over that of your own Pashtons?. Why do you wish for Pashtons to remain land-locked and forever condemned to asking permission from Punjabian for access to the international trading routes? Its a fact that Pakistan not only threatens the survival of Pashtons (our) culture, language, heritage , identity and noble values , but even our existence as a people as well. Worst off Pakistan violate the sanctity of Islam by using Islam when it’s convenient. You can’t just pick and choose parts of Islam to justify its society and then ignore thee rest. That is travesty to Islam. Islam and our Pashton culture teaches us to be ruled by ourselves and not by others, and being apart of Pakistan a country which is not formed by our OWN authority is a violation of both ethics. Last but not least…perhaps you’d wish to enlighten as to which current Pashton leader in your opinion is willing to be remembered as the one who served the enemy by accepting Durrand line while for the first time in our history, Pashtons father land-- Afghanistan enjoys an advantage?
Come on..…I dare you to stand your ground—(pro-Pakistan occupation of Pashtonistan)..or even defend a single Pakistani character that you may fancy with a slim chance of defending…just one is all I ask…go on, I dare you...surprise me with the odd display of a Pakistani's courage...

Your a mindless drone, your a brainwashed robotic sheep, you have no intellect, whatever font you use your words look no less empty than the content of your cringing posts. your a donkey that carries the weight of 25,000 innocent people killed in afghanistan, the people responcible are on your back and whipping your backside for good measure, your a shoe polisher for the white man and you support the hindus plotting against 120 million muslims next door, your knuckles are dragging the floor with your hate,arrogance and nausiating persona, you dont have the lyrics or the capabilities to defend your see-through plastic bigotted self i bet you are not even a pashtun but an imposter. you sit thousands of miles away but feel personally attacked when a REAL pashtun realises your countrys leader is a foreighn puppet scoundrel. I never said i was for the durrand line but thats what you want me say dont you? you however are youd rather leave the "ta bandi ma bandi" people behind a fence wouldnt you? all i need is another 1 or 2 posts more to expose you as the rat you are. you asked why i would rather serve the interests over pakistan than that of the pashtuns?? well the simple answer to such a simpleton as yourself would be this: i dont serve the interests of pakistan, i serve the interests of pashtuns which in my view isnt afghanistan, a currupt foreighn land occupied by foreighners and has enemies of pashtuns sitting in the government.

one final note for all the members to read about you. your not a pashtun, you spell pashtun like 'pashton' you spell it how Iranians/perisan people do. your a fake and a lier. just from 1 word i can smell a rat as yourself that posseses a stench that reaks the word "immatator" a thousand miles away. dear PASHTON.

[Alchemist]

The thing with pakistanis is that they like to pretend that they are Afghan/Pashtun and we are pakistani.....@#%@in wannabes...

[graveyardofempires]

I love my pashtuns on west of durand kho mata andaza washa che halato takaza da da che status quo ba felhal sabar wako.
Lar o bar yo pashtun but when our motherland will become a developed and stable country then there is a chance for unity.

lol
te kho dasey wey leka durrand dey che neeke yee

[graveyardofempires]

Your a mindless drone, your a brainwashed robotic sheep, you have no intellect, whatever font you use your words look no less empty than the content of your cringing posts. your a donkey that carries the weight of 25,000 innocent people killed in afghanistan, the people responcible are on your back and whipping your backside for good measure, your a shoe polisher for the white man and you support the hindus plotting against 120 million muslims next door, your knuckles are dragging the floor with your hate,arrogance and nausiating persona, you dont have the lyrics or the capabilities to defend your see-through plastic bigotted self i bet you are not even a pashtun but an imposter. you sit thousands of miles away but feel personally attacked when a REAL pashtun realises your countrys leader is a foreighn puppet scoundrel. I never said i was for the durrand line but thats what you want me say dont you? you however are youd rather leave the "ta bandi ma bandi" people behind a fence wouldnt you? all i need is another 1 or 2 posts more to expose you as the rat you are. you asked why i would rather serve the interests over pakistan than that of the pashtuns?? well the simple answer to such a simpleton as yourself would be this: i dont serve the interests of pakistan, i serve the interests of pashtuns which in my view isnt afghanistan, a currupt foreighn land occupied by foreighners and has enemies of pashtuns sitting in the government.

one final note for all the members to read about you. your not a pashtun, you spell pashtun like 'pashton' you spell it how Iranians/perisan people do. your a fake and a lier. just from 1 word i can smell a rat as yourself that posseses a stench that reaks the word "immatator" a thousand miles away. dear PASHTON.

wow
using the killed pashtuns to justify the seculer zionist jinah state.

your info is total paki bias,afghanistan is not in control of non pashtuns and afghanistan is your mother land and it shows you have no respect for your motherland and thus are in a seriouse identity crisis.

as for the other poster you replied to ,he is ajust another propagandist from another side.

i dont care if you are with us or not,we are not here to waite for each and everyone of little brainwashed kids.

as far as ive seen you dont give a flying .... about pashtuns all you do is badmouth Afghanistan which is a the true nation ,just beacause we are stating facts the pakistan is an occupying force and created for sole purpose of our destruction.
you say that pashtuns are not in control of Afghanistan yet you are against joining with afghanistan which will make pashtuns the ultimate rulers of the nation,even though pashtuns have alwasy been the rulers and all that call themselves afghans are pro pashtuns.

[Manzareh]

wow
using the killed pashtuns to justify the seculer zionist jinah state.

your info is total paki bias,afghanistan is not in control of non pashtuns and afghanistan is your mother land and it shows you have no respect for your motherland and thus are in a seriouse identity crisis.

as for the other poster you replied to ,he is ajust another propagandist from another side.

i dont care if you are with us or not,we are not here to waite for each and everyone of little brainwashed kids.

as far as ive seen you dont give a flying .... about pashtuns all you do is badmouth Afghanistan which is a the true nation ,just beacause we are stating facts the pakistan is an occupying force and created for sole purpose of our destruction.
you say that pashtuns are not in control of Afghanistan yet you are against joining with afghanistan which will make pashtuns the ultimate rulers of the nation,even though pashtuns have alwasy been the rulers and all that call themselves afghans are pro pashtuns.

You're up for a mixed afghanistan with various ethnics forming a large percentage of the country, your up for pashtun politicians sitting next to an uzbek politician that would love to see pashtuns dead, your up to create an afghanistan for the simple reason afghan has history and the word afghan means pashtun..me on the other hand aint up for that, i care about my people that i want a pashtun country, with atleast 90% of the population being pashtun, i want a full pashtun parliment and a justly elected pashtun ruler i dont want the influence of persian dari in my country, i want an army that isnt like the northern allience farsi's..your up for afghanistan i say to helll with afghanistan and all for pashtunistan, unless ofcourse you name the new pashtunistan afghanistan. do you understand.

[graveyardofempires]

You're up for a mixed afghanistan with various ethnics forming a large percentage of the country, your up for pashtun politicians sitting next to an uzbek politician that would love to see pashtuns dead, your up to create an afghanistan for the simple reason afghan has history and the word afghan means pashtun..me on the other hand aint up for that, i care about my people that i want a pashtun country, with atleast 90% of the population being pashtun, i want a full pashtun parliment and a justly elected pashtun ruler i dont want the influence of persian dari in my country, i want an army that isnt like the northern allience farsi's..your up for afghanistan i say to helll with afghanistan and all for pashtunistan, unless ofcourse you name the new pashtunistan afghanistan. do you understand.

you are os ignorant than you dont even know when durrand lin eis demolished pahsutns will be around 90%.
and you also ignorant think that all uzbeks want pashtuns dead.
these who are racist against pashtuns are not just uzbeks and they are a small minority in the country and if you think they have power than you dont know the facts.
these people who you think represent uzbek or tajik are also hated by the same people.this small minority formed from different ethnicities are in no postion to have a saying.
but than again you think everything is so simple.while its not.