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    Progress is the output of free inquiry. Unless you can inquire things and their nature freely you cannot discover new phenomena or invent new things or develop new technology.

    Free inquiry requires the absence of fear. If you are afraid to ask a question or question anything which is being asked then you cannot think freely. Similarly social, religious or political pressures also confine and restrain free thinking. Hence a free environment is necessary to think freely and to explore the nature of life and universe.

    Believing is a type of assumption. When theologicians argue that religion open new vistas of thought by "believing" in the things unseen they might be partially correct as there is no harm to assume something and proceed with the assumption. However they are not correct when they say you should not reject the assumption [belief] if it is not verifiable or falsifiable.

    The repercussions of refusing to reject non verifiable or falsifiable assumptions have been devastating. Despite the fact that Afghans have been free in the political sense since their political consciousness came into existence, they were always under the influence of clergy and their restrictions and constraints that were not compatible with scientific methodology. The clergy discouraged any free inquiry into the causes of physical phenomena which could have implications on their self conceived dogmas, creeds or vested interests.

    How less is it realized that the essence of progress, development and prosperity is not just learning science but creating science. It is not just using technology but also creating technology by which a society can move forward to a more technologically advanced level. It is not just sufficient to earn one’s living by honest means but also creating new modes of earning which will sustain our society.

    We need food to survive biologically but we need creativity to survive technologically. If we just use technology and do not create it then we will just reduce to becoming a consumer society and become a parasite. The basic weapon for the survival of a state is her ability to create techniques, technology, methodologies and sciences to achieve a respectable status in the international community.

    In short the first step to progress is to think freely and even if one has to believe in a certain concept of life and universe, it should be by argument and not by birth. That way the society will not only have tolerance on socio-political level but also will encourage free thinking and criticism which will open new vistas of probability for the discovery of new ideas, sciences, techniques and methodologies.

    Religion is mainly a private affair based on certain dogmas, creeds, rituals, customs, traditions and morals having some points of intersection with cultures of third world countries in particular and hence should be respected. However it neither can nor should interfere into the collective politico-economic affairs of the state which are more related to the means of capital production and its distribution and hence determine whether a nation is qualified to pass the litmus test for development or not. The whole idea of development is in reference to the collective [politico-economic] aspects of social life and religion being more an individualistic affair has least to do with science of development.

    Afghanistan has progressed to a good extent during the past few years though this progress is not sufficient as this is a post war interim period for the war ravaged country. Religion has been exploited for political purposes especially during the US-Russian war fought on Afghan soil. Afghanistan was a power to reckon with before that war which proves that Afghans are an enterprising nation but were used for imperialist designs with the help of religion which has been their weakness. Moreover their monarchs in the past are to blame as they did not give a clear scientific vision to the nation so they could accept the challenges of the modern scientific age. The only way out from the abyss of tribalism for Afghanistan and other third world countries is to promote science and technology and as it will pave the way for a techno-creative culture which in turn will put the under developed countries on the road to progress and prosperity.
    Last edited by pir_Rokhan; 11-14-2010, 04:41 AM.
    Pir Rokhan

    http://Pashtoonkhwa.blogspot.com

  • #2
    Originally posted by pir_Rokhan View Post
    Hence a free environment is necessary to think freely and to explore the nature of life and universe.
    I will use technology to find out what your entire post was about!



    So looks like the entire post was somewhat about "technology" and "freedom".

    Pir Tareek, as long as there is a government or any other source of authority then there is no such thing as "free" or "freedom". The very word "government" means "govern" the "mind" aka restricted freedom!

    Without restricted freedom the world would be a jungle far worse than it is right now! The freedom you are talking about can be found in the novel section under the sci-fi shelf.
    O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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    • #3
      The end of IGNORANCE is the beginning of KNOWLEDGE. Knowledge has no end, it keeps expanding into the INFINITY.
      The end of Ignorance, is the beginning of Knowledge.
      Knowledge has no end. It keeps expanding into the infinity.

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      • #4
        Akbar Mian saib

        The post was about the fact that as the pre requisite for PROGRESS is free thinking and as RELIGION does not appreciate free thinking hence it should be an individualistic affair and should not interfere into the affairs of the state but should peacefully co-exist not hindering the progress of a nation/state.

        The direction of free thinking should be on CREATING Science and technology instead of theology so that new means of income [capital generation] come into existence and Afghanistan is prevented from becoming a consumer society [right now it is not even consumer but a backward / tribal society turning into consumer one due to lack of future vision] even after Afghans get equipped with science and technology.

        Your comment about nature of govt as a hinderance to freedom is partially correct however that control [which has been criticised by the anarchists too] is being lost to poeple due to concepts like e-governance. I have personal experience of witnessing change managment due to turning an enterprise into e-enterprise by converting it from a manual -govt-controlled enterprise into an electronically-controlled-transparent-simulation based system and that enterprise is one of the movers and shakers in world economy.
        Last edited by pir_Rokhan; 11-14-2010, 05:12 AM.
        Pir Rokhan

        http://Pashtoonkhwa.blogspot.com

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pir_Rokhan View Post
          The direction of free thinking should be on CREATING Science and technology instead of theology so that new means of income [capital generation] come into existence and Afghanistan is prevented from becoming a consumer society.
          Pir Tareek your statement is a farce! The "free thinking" societies are the worst when it comes to consumerism. You correlate progress/success with capital and that is where you err!

          Science? I love it and I encourage its pursuit!

          Technology? Innovation, innovation, innovation!

          Free thinking? I encourage it but not the "free thinking" of diabolical & double standards! I encourage agnostic individuals like yourself to come forward, discuss, debate and question without any fear.
          O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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          • #6
            Free inquiring and thinking societies might be more consumers but there is a balancing effect of Production. Consumerism with production is good for progress while the one which lacks production is a burden and liability on the society.

            Progress has a correlation with the means of indigenous capital generation aka Production. Without capital, both financial and human, there are no opportunities , no industrial base, no competition, less taxation, no means of income for govt. no infrastructure improvement , no research and development , no institutionalisation and hence no progress.

            You love science and technology that is appreciable but there are some pre- requisites for it to happen and it is there where you and Afghanistan will face problems.
            Pir Rokhan

            http://Pashtoonkhwa.blogspot.com

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            • #7
              Pir Tarik,

              Why is it that most apostates and secularists in Muslim countries lean towards Marxist philosophy?

              If you are going to immitate European philosophers, please go ahead. But at least try to stay up to date.

              Sadly because of the backwardness in our societies, even the apostates and secularists are backward. They keep recycling old, out-dated and refuted philosophical dogma's.

              You should read more on contemporary analytical philosophy. Improve your material.
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              • #8
                I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Grand Duches Christina of Tuscany.

                Another great quote to add to my list! Thanks, Gulalai guley!

                You must have heard of the following two as well:

                - I don't want the right to believe if I don't have the right to disbelieve.
                - Question with boldness even the existence of a God because, if there be one, He must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded faith.

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