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  • #31
    Originally posted by Dust View Post
    I am pretty sure that Shariah Law is not limited to the 5 daily prayers.

    Nonetheless, you missed what I said. I am not insulting your Shariah Law. I am questioning the implementers. They failed Afghanistan with their interpretation. See the difference? Law is always subject to interpretation.

    If Shariah Law is supreme, as you have alluded to, then your interpreters need to change. Otherwise, the condition and plight of the Muslim will remain the same.
    5 daily prayers is an important aspect of shariah law. It is not the limit. But it is one of the most important aspects.

    Suppose a leader of Muslims does not pray 5 times a day, this nullifies his position as a leader.

    Similarly, if a person does not pray 5 times a day, he can never try to impose shariah on others.

    And just like the 5 daily prayers there are thousands of other aspects of Shariah that need to be implemented on individual and collective level.

    Shariah is not that ambigious. If you fail to implement it, it is due to other reasons than interpretation.

    Let as take a look at Saudi Arabia. The country claims to be a Shari'i state. But it is actually a monarchy. To use the correct Aristotelian term to describe the politics of Saudi Arabia, it would be classified as a tyranny.

    The king is a tyrant and he supercedes all laws. He prevents people other than the ones he has selected in his council to issue rulings.

    It is a well known fact that the prophet muhammad saww commanded people to never allow Jews and Christians to establish on the holy land. But the Saudi king not only allowed them to return, but he went as far as allowing Saudi soil to be used as a launghing ground to attack Iraq, Afghanistan and sooner or later, Iran.

    Likewise there are many other forms of corruption in Saudi Arabia. And this is because the ruling elite, and the king in paticular prevents the law from being implemented because it might harm his interests.

    The law is crystal clear. Everyone can have access to the sources of law. Quran and sahih ahadith are available everywhere. Even online.

    But people who do go against it like Saudi kingdom has, is clearly not a case of misinterpretation. But corrupted minds and greed.
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    • #32
      What you are trying to illustrate does not hold. I am pretty sure that every person who prays 5 times a day is not capable of running a government. Further, how can your prophet say to never to allow others to establish in the "holy land" when he himself sent people to Abyssinia, a Christian land, why did he settle in Yathrib, a large Jewish population?

      Moreover, then can you pinpoint an individual that can implement Shariah Law for as it stands no one has been able to.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Dust View Post
        What you are trying to illustrate does not hold. I am pretty sure that every person who prays 5 times a day is not capable of running a government. Further, how can your prophet say to never to allow others to establish in the "holy land" when he himself sent people to Abyssinia, a Christian land, why did he settle in Yathrib, a large Jewish population?

        Moreover, then can you pinpoint an individual that can implement Shariah Law for as it stands no one has been able to.
        you are delibrately taking a diversion and misinterpreting what I said.

        Praying 5 times I day is not sufficient to be a leader. I said, that it is a very important thing. And judging by it, we can say allot about the person.

        And Muslims are allowed to establish themselves wherever they want. Islam is the true religion and we should spread it all across the world.

        Because all other religions and beliefs are false. And only Islam is the ultimate truth.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Sangar View Post
          you are delibrately taking a diversion and misinterpreting what I said.

          Praying 5 times I day is not sufficient to be a leader. I said, that it is a very important thing. And judging by it, we can say allot about the person.

          And Muslims are allowed to establish themselves wherever they want. Islam is the true religion and we should spread it all across the world.

          Because all other religions and beliefs are false. And only Islam is the ultimate truth.
          Do you know what contradiction means? Or what hypocrisy means?

          How can your prophet claim the whole world as his and annihilate everyone who were there before the advent of Islam? This is theocratic colonization.

          If this is what Islam is then you should not mind when some capitalist wants to take your land and subjugate your people. You are just as ready to do the same.

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          • #35
            This is what I have been stressing about.

            They oppose Imperialism from the West upon their lands but they themselves are preparing to imperialise the lands of the West and inforce Islam upon them.

            No Western country at the moment is inforcing christianity upon iraqis or afghans. Selling a few bibles in Kabul is not Imperialism, these Islamists openly want to conquer the whole world, their life evolves around hatred and war towards other faiths.

            How can people live and accept these Islamists, whenever one of their Islamists gets booted out of the west i.e omar bakri why do they run back to the west for a good life i.e war in lebenon, anti west cleric tried to get onto the ship carrying british nationals.

            Kind Regards

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            • #36
              What makes it even more amusing is that they use terms such as "Crusade" but in their sermons they speak of their own crusades of taking over the whole world and making mosques in Spain etc.

              Kind Regards

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