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  • Gopal: Afghanistan not better off Since 2001



    Acclaimed and well versed author Anand Gopal writes and discusses:

    He undoes the propaganda coming out of Kabul and discusses the stark variation between rural and urban progress.



    Here is the extended interview:

    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

  • #2
    In the extended interview go to 19 min and 20 seconds; the female interviewer does a superb job and her questions are right on the mark. Gopal is also very honest. At 19 min and 25 seconds he calls out the emigre expats who present a false rosy urbancentric picture of "progress" with emphasis on the quote unquote.

    The commander, Jan Muhammad, a colleague of Karzai's was caught on videotape in a now famous documentary threatening to sexually abuse a teenage boy when they raided his house and found guns there (as if most Pashtun homes were devoid of weaponry???).
    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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    • #3
      Afghanistan is a much better place than it was under Taleban. It has strong and war-hardened 350000 military force to defend the land and has made strides in other social indicators like education, media expansion although some nonsense people will expect it to be like countries not having seen a war for centuries.

      Kindly stop the Akhwani propaganda.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Toramana View Post
        Afghanistan is a much better place than it was under Taleban. It has strong and war-hardened 350000 military force to defend the land and has made strides in other social indicators like education, media expansion although some nonsense people will expect it to be like countries not having seen a war for centuries.

        Kindly stop the Akhwani propaganda.
        Anand Gopal is in the Ikhwan? I never knew. Quick, turn him over to Sisi. Alas, I do appreciate his quote about 70% of the Kabul elite's gains resting on American investment.
        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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        • #5
          In many categories, i.e education, sports, telecommunication, Afghanistan is better off.

          However, one must agree that law and order, and peace is non-existent, and many lost innocent family members at far higher numbers.
          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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          • #6
            Afghanistan is a lot better than it was in 2001. Anyone with a last name called Gopal cannot be taken seriously.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Pashtunwali View Post
              Afghanistan is a lot better than it was in 2001. Anyone with a last name called Gopal cannot be taken seriously.
              Read his book and his research - he is well traveled and studied in Afghanistan. The whole point of his text is to cover multiple view points. He even provides the story of Karzai henchman Jan Muhammad Khan, the superstar molester through the authorized autobio of the man himself.
              "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                Read his book and his research - he is well traveled and studied in Afghanistan. The whole point of his text is to cover multiple view points. He even provides the story of Karzai henchman Jan Muhammad Khan, the superstar molester through the authorized autobio of the man himself.
                How could I take you seriously when you say something like "superstar molester". I mean, who, with basic education, uses such uncool term?

                Anyway, the reason I said Gopal cannot be taken seriously is because in our language his last name translated means, ";he who searches for feces".

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pashtunwali View Post
                  How could I take you seriously when you say something like "superstar molester". I mean, who, with basic education, uses such uncool term?

                  Anyway, the reason I said Gopal cannot be taken seriously is because in our language his last name translated means, "he who searches for feces".
                  Jan Muhammad Khan was caught by a documentarian as an embed in Helmand province. There is a scene where he assists in a raid on a poor guy's house and then the guy's AK is confiscated. The village boy is accused of being a militant and then Jan Muhammad proceeds to say in Pashto that the boy is "beautiful" and that he "looks forward to rubbing his penis on him."

                  So the "uncool" term is an appropriate epithet.
                  "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                  • #10
                    superstar is a positive thing molester is not

                    did you get it?

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                    • #11
                      Here is the video of Karzai confidant and super molester Jan Muhammad caught in the act with a reputable documentary and a good translation (JourneyMan):

                      Taliban Country - 45min. documentary - YouTube

                      Go to 3 min 17 sec where the dirty old son of a b-itch enters the scene

                      Then to 4 min 11 seconds where the poverty stricken house has its door kicked in

                      Go to 6 min and 51 sec to watch the molestation threats begin

                      7 min 51 seconds is when the narrator even indicates the threat is there

                      8 min and 45 sec is when he starts getting even more crude in his pervert descriptions and describes his intent to molest the guy.

                      Sorry man, caught in the act. And this is Karzai's crew.
                      "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Blueberry Mountain View Post
                        superstar is a positive thing molester is not

                        did you get it?
                        It can be used as an adjective to magnify the noun, for instance, Sexton's famous AntiChrist Superstar.

                        According to Miriam and Webster it merely means "an extremely famous and successful performer"
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Blueberry Mountain View Post
                          superstar is a positive thing molester is not

                          did you get it?
                          Also, Oxford Dictionary defines it the same way as Miriam Webster:


                          Basically, it was used in the context of intense sarcasm in that I was indicating that Jan Muhammad, thanks to his enablers, became a "high profile and extremely successful" molester if you want me to write it in verbatim.
                          "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                          • #14
                            you didn't

                            get it

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Blueberry Mountain View Post
                              you didn't

                              get it
                              I don't need to - I am using the American vernacular appropriately and by the definition of the word. Any dolt can read that and understand my antipathy and animosity to the Jan Muhammad. If you got out of it that I was complementing his molester skills then you read it wrong, or contextualized it wrong.
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