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    Karzai screws up again:

    In Afghanistan, clinic funded by U.S. military closes because of lack of government support - The Washington Post

    People ask me why I don't go back to "help" sustain this farcical government and build a clinic... we can see exactly why in the experience of Mr. Mojadidi who is far more connected than I.

    What I appreciate about the article is that it notes Mojadidi went directly to the Hamida Karzai Bibi and asked her (since Karzai in his dressing mannerisms and flamboyant behavior is more feminine than masculine) to intercede for this state of the art clinic.

    What we see is not a state emerging, but a state submerging, built but barely holding together with pieces of state of the art technology like some rodeo clown pinnochio waiting for Gapetto (Pentagon) to give it life. But Gapetto is wising up and tightening its pocket book.

    39 nations of the world, equipped with their pocket books funded Ghani, Karzai, Wardak, Fahimi, Abdullah and the whole crooked crew and all they get in return is a phenomenally corrupt, failing narcostate with a complete lack of security. Yet they know better than the indigenous people (sarcasm)
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    In Kabul, Clinic Funded by US Military Closing Because Lack of Government Support.

    By Kevin Sieff

    KABUL — By next month, there will be no more doctors at the clinic once deemed a model for Afghanistan. The shelves of the pharmacy are already empty. The modern X-ray and dialysis machines, rarities in one of the world’s poorest countries, sit unused in a building that was inaugurated by a top U.S. general.

    The project, launched by the Pentagon in 2007, is closing — its funding depleted and the Afghan government unable to provide support. Earlier this month, a patient came to see a doctor but found the clinic nearly abandoned.

    “They might as well turn it into a soccer field,” he said.

    As the United States’ longest war winds down, hundreds of aid projects are being handed over to Afghan ministries, which sometimes lack the capacity or interest to sustain what foreign donors started. The Urgent and Primary Care Clinic in Kabul is a small but telling example: one of the few medical facilities in Afghanistan with state-of-the-art American equipment, a place that once saw nearly 5,000 patients per month and will soon see none.

    The clinic was the brainchild of Asad Mojadidi, an Afghan-born doctor who moved to the United States in 1982 and practiced in Jacksonville, Fla. The doctor, who comes from one of Afghanistan’s most influential families (his brother was once president), decided to use whatever clout he had to improve the country’s failing health-care system.

    He pitched his idea for the clinic to contacts at the Pentagon, who told him that they could commit $750,000. At the time, the military had billions to spend as part of its foreign assistance program, called the Commander’s Emergency Response Program (CERP).

    Buoyed by the Pentagon’s investment, Mojadidi secured hundreds of thousands of additional dollars from private donors and Western aid groups and embassies.

    America’s Heart, a Florida-based nonprofit organization that provides medical assistance to developing countries, donated more than $100,000 in equipment. The World Health Organization donated vaccines. The Canadian government donated a refrigerated storage container.

    The whole enterprise, like many development projects here, was predicated on the Afghan government’s promise to assume responsibility for the clinic once it was built and outfitted. In theory, that shouldn’t have been a problem. Thanks to international support, especially from the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) and the World Bank, the Afghan Ministry of Public Health has a budget of more than $300 million a year.

    As a senior adviser at the Ministry of Public Health, Mojadidi thought he was in the right position to direct resources to the project. He estimated that keeping the clinic running at the standards envisioned by U.S. donors would cost about $100,000 per year. But that money never arrived. Mojadidi watched as the Afghan government refused to pay even for electricity.

    Withered potential

    When it opened, the clinic had 42 employees, including six doctors, six nurses, and several pharmacists and X-ray technicians. Soon after Gen. Karl Eikenberry, then the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, led the groundbreaking ceremony, patients flocked to the medical facility from across the country.

    It became part of Afghanistan’s rapidly improving public health sector, where some of the most lauded assistance projects were having a noticeable effect. A 2011 USAID survey found that life expectancy in the country had jumped from 42 years — the second-lowest rate in the world — to about 62 years from 2004 to 2010.

    Despite that improvement, the majority of Kabul’s clinics and hospitals that have modern equipment are private — and affordable only to the elite. Afghan government clinics are free but generally very basic. The Urgent and Primary Care Clinic’s directors and doctors hoped to use their donations — and their connection to the U.S. medical community — to provide quality care for Afghanistan’s massive underclass

    “We operated in a modern way, with a higher ethical standard than any other Afghan hospital,” said Habibullah Aini, a doctor, who will quit the clinic this month. He has not been paid since July.

    Initially, Mojadidi and the Ministry of Public Health charged small fees to some patients, depending on their income, but decided not to seek any payment from those living in abject poverty, especially widows, people with disabilities and orphans. Such a system, they thought, would bring at least some money directly to the clinic — enough to pay for medicines, maybe.

    The Afghan Justice Ministry nixed that plan a year later, arguing that the government could not accept money from patients. Still, Mojadidi thought, the Ministry of Public Health, which had expressed gratitude to the Pentagon for its initial donation, would have no problem filling the small gap in funds, given its pledge to support the clinic.

    The hospital’s needs were modest: Doctors made $400 per month. Nurses made $150. Many of the medicines were donated. The clinic had all the equipment it needed.

    Initially, the government contributed to the staff members’ salaries. But by 2012, most of the government’s funding had vanished. Mojadidi said he went to the public health minister and pleaded for money but was told that none was available. He resigned from his advisory position shortly thereafter.

    Kanishka Baktash, a spokesman for the Ministry of Public Health, denied that the clinic was on the verge of shutting down.

    “The clinic is active,” he said. “We are providing financial support.”

    But when a reporter visited the clinic this month, there was no sign of activity. Many rooms were locked. Baktash would not say how much money the ministry is providing, nor how it is being spent.

    Out of options, Mojadidi went to President Hamid Karzai with a glossy brochure about the clinic, which described its “American standards,” but the meeting didn’t produce any concrete promises. He pleaded for more funds from visiting Pentagon officials but said he received no additional assistance.

    After relying on small private donations for more than a year, Mojadidi acknowledged this summer that the clinic would have to close, even though patients continued coming for treatment. Aini, the last doctor at the clinic, had begun to apply for jobs at Western nongovernmental organizations in Kabul.

    “There’s no money and medicine. What else can I do here?” Aini said. “Because of the mismanagement of the government, now nothing is possible.”

    A fundamental problem

    In September, the Office of the U.S. Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction found that because of “financial management deficiencies” at the Ministry of Public Health, $236 million in USAID assistance was potentially subject to “waste, fraud and abuse.”

    Although the Kabul clinic received funding from the military, not USAID, the fundamental problem is the same: How can U.S. officials ensure that their investment isn’t squandered as Afghan ministries take on more responsibility for the projects?

    That’s a particular problem for the thousands of projects that received one-time U.S. military grants. In such cases, oversight often ends when troops leave a particular province. About $1.5 billion in CERP funds were spent from 2004 to 2011.

    “We are not aware of any U.S. military programs in Afghanistan that require the monitoring and evaluation of a facility’s use once we have transferred it to the Afghan government,” said Jeffrey Hawk, a spokesman for U.S. forces in Afghanistan. “As a sovereign entity, the Afghan government determines how to budget and allocate funds for various needs and requirements, including staffing, operations and maintenance.”

    Baktash said the Afghan government could not provide support to workers at clinics built by the U.S. military in areas torn by conflict. But the Kabul clinic is just a few miles from the headquarters of the U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force and close to the seat of Afghan power.

    “There was so much potential, and look at what is left,” Mojadidi said this month, standing in the empty hospital. “Thanks to the government’s mismanagement, we lost everything.”
    Last edited by BarakzaiAbdali; 11-18-2013, 02:16 PM.
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  • #2
    Look at that lying sack of feces Baktash, whose sentence I have hi lited in Blue. He is blatantly telling a lie through his big buck teeth.

    The red hi liting shows how Karzai was directly involved and the other sentence shows how the best care remains available to the Kabul elites.

    Hamida Bibi really needs to quit attending wedding parties and get to work. If this thing survives it will only be because the Post wrote about it and embarrassed the government into action.

    Mojadidi was stupid for even thinking he could work with Islamabad's as corrupt twin brother.

    The key question that was left unanswered:
    "How can U.S. officials ensure that their investment isn’t squandered as Afghan ministries take on more responsibility for the projects?"

    The answer?
    You cannot gaurantee a da-mn thing when you give money to these pieces of crap that claim that they are "educated" Afghans. They are far too busy donning pin stripped zoot suits and attending Kabul Art shows, living like "new wealth" does - gaudy and in excess with opulent arrogance

    Save the American taxpayer their money and drop these hobos. Get out while you still can and leave Hamida Bibi to his people. They will get the money out of most accessible orifice.
    Last edited by BarakzaiAbdali; 11-18-2013, 02:17 PM.
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    • #3
      Health sector should be among the top priority of any govt
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
        Health sector should be among the top priority of any govt
        What else do you expect from Karzai? His whole enterprise has been about himself from the get go.

        Even the clinic "entrepreneur" Asad Mojadidi has minimal resemblance in his mannerisms:
        Photos | jacksonville.com

        And family members:
        Aman Mojadidi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        To the average Afghan.

        Yet the folks who decided to support the Overlord of the Banana Republic of Kabul decided somehow, these guys were attuned to the basic needs of the rural mass.

        Its a sad state of affairs when you talk about how the previous regime built nothing except security but then, literally the whole world funds your endeavor and it is constantly failing by the most important metrics.
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        • #5
          That what you get when you let ans Islamist and former jihadist wahabist **** heads als leaders.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Khostai View Post
            That what you get when you let ans Islamist and former jihadist wahabist **** heads als leaders.
            Najib messed up the whole country and he was a KhAD certified card carrying communist.

            Do you mean Karzai is an Islamist?

            Mojadidi the former President was also not wahhabist... he was considered moderate and Karzai was in his faction
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            • #7
              Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
              Najib messed up the whole country and he was a KhAD certified card carrying communist.

              Do you mean Karzai is an Islamist?

              Mojadidi the former President was also not wahhabist... he was considered moderate and Karzai was in his faction
              Stop denying that your Islamist gang raped Afghanistan and sold it to the west, they are worse than communists.

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              • #8
                Do you think Mujahideen or Taliban could take better care of the health facility under discussion?

                Do you think Karzai is a cure-all and panacea to all the menaces of Afghanistan? Do you think his few years in power struggling against the bandits can resolve all the issues of Afghansitan?

                Ka ghwasha uswazi da paitay na sha wi ....silver is better than stone if we do not have gold. Karzai is not gold but he is not stone either. He is at least silver better than the one who want to push us in stone age.

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                • #9
                  I find Karzai and the current govermnet also ****, but still denying that Islamist are not at fault here when the whole goverment is full of ex-mujhahids warlords and Islmists and not to forget that its the ISLAMIC Republic of Afghanistan. Is just dum.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                    Najib messed up the whole country and he was a KhAD certified card carrying communist.

                    Do you mean Karzai is an Islamist?

                    Mojadidi the former President was also not wahhabist... he was considered moderate and Karzai was in his faction
                    What do you know about communism?
                    I bet you are the type of peopel who will deny everything what Islamist do. And I gues when taliban get control and also mess things up you will be the one who is gona claim that those are not the good taliban, the good died in the war and this are paki and western pupets.
                    Just stop it already.

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                    • #11
                      i hate communists! my family suffered from them and lots of other people in former soviet union and another socialistic countries!

                      BUT! i have to admit the medical supply was one of the best! it was not important what kind of religion or ethnic group you have got (oops doesn't islam teach this too)!
                      everybody was supplied!

                      the education for medical stuff was not bad

                      just look how much afghans studied in moscow and st.petersburg after the break down of soviet union they moved to the western countries and there they are working as doctors in the west, they have got one of the best reputation
                      from the young generation i didn't see it

                      as i understood you said i will not go to help people in afg
                      but didn't quran say that you should help the poor and the orphan

                      clinics are closed of different reasons: corruption on single level, clinic staff take bribe, at ngo you can earn more and you receive your money punctually, to bring medical equipment to afg costs lots of money (the taliban earning also money, you have to bring the equipment to kabul and other cities, taliban and another group take taxes for transportation )

                      the ****ing elite karzai and his talib gang are flown to usa to receive medical supply and a pregnant woman in a village is dieing and her husband is killing by a us-drone

                      what have taliban and other radical groups did for a medical supply? NOTHING! they closed everything and poeple died, oops does not islam teach you should not let die and help your borther and sister?

                      lots of people during communism also the elite was religious but they hide it or keep it private!

                      less problems if you keep your religion private

                      taliban and his bitch karzai don't care about people in afg
                      they need afg just for transit for different goods like oil!
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                        Stop denying that your Islamist gang raped Afghanistan and sold it to the west, they are worse than communists.
                        I disagree on the accuracy of that history. I think that all of them had a hand in the destruction of the state for different reasons.

                        My historical basis which comes from the recorded history is that Zahir Shah and Daud after him tried to balance two super powers - Soviets building certain hospitals and Americans building dams - with the idea of getting what they want through a "neutrality" policy that really meant they were thinking they could get all they wanted at zero price.

                        With this in mind, no matter how many stupid Brzenzski clips the secularist militants and communists provide, the injection of a completely foreign ideology excited a radical response. This was the failure and stupidity admitted from the very mouths of Saleh Zeary himself - they did not understand the very "proletariat" they thought they were out to save.

                        Then, admittedly the various "Islamists" or Muj factions started to do stupid crap. Sherzai wreaked havoc in Kandahar since his father was dead and could not control him; Abdul Ahad Karzai came begging to tor patkeewaal to intervene. On the other side each guy took money from whoever would give it to him. Mossoud was getting felt up by India and Russia and Hekmetyaar from sources in Pakistan, etc. This truly was a disaster.

                        Where you are utterly wrong is that what comes out of a Pandora's box is not the guilty party but Pandora herself. These idiot moron Khadists who completed Carter's plan were the fools - thinking the Soviets would be able to crush everything.

                        The militant secularist atheists were the harbingers and the Muj were the devastating response.

                        What was left? A group of seminary kids to clean up the mess of those morons like Najib and these other idiots.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Badlun View Post
                          Do you think Mujahideen or Taliban could take better care of the health facility under discussion?

                          A nonsense argument predicated on what you think might have happened and now what has happened. That's like me saying, Jim failed the test but Tonya cannot take it. When asked why one would go to criticize Jim's failure immediately you jump to how Tonya would have failed if she were to take it. All we have is the information available - which is Karzai himself screwed up here royally. This is despite the concerted efforts of American benefactors, an American doctor and his money, and the all of NATO. Thats like saying Jim is so stupid and we even let Einstein give him answers on his Physics 101 exam but he still failed. Stupid is and stupid does.

                          Do you think Karzai is a cure-all and panacea to all the menaces of Afghanistan? Do you think his few years in power struggling against the bandits can resolve all the issues of Afghansitan?

                          He is the bandit and he is a fool on top of that. Thats a lethal combination for failure

                          Ka ghwasha uswazi da paitay na sha wi ....silver is better than stone if we do not have gold. Karzai is not gold but he is not stone either. He is at least silver better than the one who want to push us in stone age.

                          He is a sycophant, a liar, an opportunist, and a fool ready to sell the the right of a nation to prosecute criminals on his own soil. He is neither silver but he is a piece of trash wrapped in gold foil
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                            I find Karzai and the current govermnet also ****, but still denying that Islamist are not at fault here when the whole goverment is full of ex-mujhahids warlords and Islmists and not to forget that its the ISLAMIC Republic of Afghanistan. Is just dum.
                            Atmar is an Islamist? He was a stupid communist secular militant and a traitor to Pashtuns. You have a few people like Sayyaf and for each of them you have one of these zoot suit bas-tard retards that were western failures trying to recover some past glory. The Islamic label is just a way for them to pacify people the way Najib, when he failed was putting out radio addresses using Quran verses when just a few years earlier he was dyed in the red Leninist.

                            But I do agree with you that the blame does not lie just on one group. I do not want you to think I do not find the behavior of the "Islamists" also repugnant. I also do not think the 90s era was roses.

                            We agree on a lot more than you think and I think you are a lot more honest than many people here, as I have said in the past.
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