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    Afghanistan just got its worst news since the Soviet invasion three decades ago: American geologists have charted as much as a trillion dollars' worth of mineral deposits in that tormented landscape.
    Up to now, Afghanistan's internal factions and neighbors have been fighting over worthless dirt, Allah and opium. Assigning the battlefield a trillion-dollar value is not a prescription for reconciliation. Expect "The Beverly Hillbillies" scripted by Satan.



    Even were Afghanistan at peace, its endemic corruption would generate a grabocracy -- a Nigeria, not a Norway. Throw in inherited hatreds and the appetites of its neighbors, and Afghanistan may end up more like eastern Congo, a playground for state-sanctioned murderers and looters.



    Beyond reportedly vast deposits of rare minerals (lithium, etc.) essential to popular technologies, there's copper, cobalt, iron and gold in them thar hills. Afghanistan never before offered so much to fight over.



    Instead of making life easier for our troops, the finds will make it harder to disengage. Washington will succumb to arguments that we need to preserve access to these strategic resources, even though it's far cheaper to buy them than to prolong a military protectorate. (US firms won't get the good contracts, anyway.)



    We already provide strategic security for Chinese mining interests in Afghanistan -- having been chumped by the Karzai government out of the gate. Now the Chinese will arrive in hordes, bribing and smiling.
    The Russians will also take a renewed interest. And the Iranians have already crept into western Afghanistan (where key deposits are located). The potential for violence spilling across more borders -- including into unstable Central Asia -- will be enormous.



    But the gravest danger of an all-out shootin' war comes from Pakistan and India. Until the revelation of these finds, Islamabad (which continues to support the Afghan Taliban) just wanted strategic depth in the event of a war with New Delhi, while India had engaged in Afganistan just to frustrate Pakistan. Now Pakistan, a country in which the powerful have already stolen all there is to steal, will develop delusions of grandeur about controlling Afghanistan's subsurface wealth. And India's swelling economy will develop a sudden hunger for Afghan minerals. China will side with Pakistan, exploiting Islamabad as a proxy. Iran may line up with China and Pakistan, as well. Pakistan will turn up the heat in Kashmir. The "Great Game" of yore is about to become Monopoly played with corpses.


    Afghanistan's one hope was that, eventually, outsiders would leave it alone. That hope's gone now. Development of a full-blown mining industry will take decades, but that just means decades of violent competition. Back in the happy-face United States, optimists insist that these Afghan finds will fund good government, security and development. Ain't gonna happen. A country living on aid and opium won't go Harvard Business School when megawealth floods in (the opium trade won't disappear, either). And the environmental damage will put BP to shame.


    Meanwhile, we can't manage the war we've got. The CIA, at least, keeps killing al Qaeda terrorists across the border in Pakistan. But our troops, in the words of one fighter on the ground, just "patrol, patrol and patrol, making themselves IED magnets."



    Afghan National Army training is showing progress, but President Hamid Karzai just dumped his two most pro-American ministers, and our ballyhooed Kandahar offensive -- delayed yet again -- has begun to seem like "Brigadoon" with body armor.


    It's high time to ask ourselves the basic question about Afghanistan that we've avoided since we made the decision to stay: What do we get out of it?


    "Chinese access to strategic minerals" is not an adequate answer.
    Ralph Peters' latest book is "Endless War."

  • #2
    My question is that these studies were done even by soviets and Afghanistan possessing all these rare minerals isn't exactly a secret..so why is it NOW, when there is a chance of US getting out of Afghanistan that this "discovery" is being brought to light ?

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    • #3
      there is alot of threads about this now.

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      • #4
        this is a different topic

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        • #5
          Its still about the trillion dollars worth of mineral..Which America will most likely steal...like when they stole oil from Iraq.
          Last edited by Master Khan; 06-15-2010, 07:30 PM.

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          • #6
            its much more than that, this can change the entire outlook of the US war..this is all the excuse they need to stay in Afghanistan..read it then talk

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            • #7
              yeah they want to war in Iraq for Oil and Afghanistan for the trillion dollars worth of mineral.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AfghanSoulja View Post
                My question is that these studies were done even by soviets and Afghanistan possessing all these rare minerals isn't exactly a secret..so why is it NOW, when there is a chance of US getting out of Afghanistan that this "discovery" is being brought to light ?
                Would you be reading further beyond the regular propaganda outlets, you would have known the answer.

                Bus because I am such a nice guy, I am going to help you out:

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                  Would you be reading further beyond the regular propaganda outlets, you would have known the answer.

                  Bus because I am such a nice guy, I am going to help you out:

                  http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...pentagon-2594/
                  for you i'm pretty sure even your own birth was a propaganda

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AfghanSoulja View Post
                    for you i'm pretty sure even your own birth was a propaganda
                    Easy now, pretty boy. Control your emotions.
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                    • #11
                      Afghan Soulja
                      Many of the USA media are saying this report was again released in the hopes that it would give motivation (the access to this mineral wealth) to the American people to stay in Afghanistan but despite this report the majority of people in the USA still wish to leave Afghanistan.

                      For example this article
                      Afghanistan's 'Vast Riches Of Minerals' Highlighted By Pentagon says: "Indeed, opponents of the war have questioned whether Monday's Times story is the Pentagon's latest attempt to persuade an increasingly frustrated American public that Afghanistan is worth the costs in blood and treasure."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lewanai Anjalai View Post
                        Afghan Soulja
                        Many of the USA media are saying this report was again released in the hopes that it would give motivation (the access to this mineral wealth) to the American people to stay in Afghanistan but despite this report the majority of people in the USA still wish to leave Afghanistan.

                        For example this article
                        Afghanistan's 'Vast Riches Of Minerals' Highlighted By Pentagon says: "Indeed, opponents of the war have questioned whether Monday's Times story is the Pentagon's latest attempt to persuade an increasingly frustrated American public that Afghanistan is worth the costs in blood and treasure."

                        Most of these advocates of crusaders on Pashtunforums appear to have strong feelings and a clear opinion regarding current events.

                        Yet they seem so unaware and fall for every new news item that is designed to manipulate people.

                        I mean just look at the recent hanging of 7 year old kid incident and the Kandahar wedding.

                        Suddenly the slaves of America jump on such news items to express their anger and animosity against Taliban. Yet you don't see any of these great patriots saying anything negative about NATO and its allies killing our people on daily bases. Neither do they show any concern for the horrible sotuation people are right now in Afghanistan.

                        All they care about is their rich and wealthy relatives who either work for the invaders or own businesses and make money of the current occupation.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                          Most of these advocates of crusaders on Pashtunforums appear to have strong feelings and a clear opinion regarding current events.

                          Yet they seem so unaware and fall for every new news item that is designed to manipulate people.

                          I mean just look at the recent hanging of 7 year old kid incident and the Kandahar wedding.

                          Suddenly the slaves of America jump on such news items to express their anger and animosity against Taliban. Yet you don't see any of these great patriots saying anything negative about NATO and its allies killing our people on daily bases. Neither do they show any concern for the horrible sotuation people are right now in Afghanistan.

                          All they care about is their rich and wealthy relatives who either work for the invaders or own businesses and make money of the current occupation.
                          I don't understand your above comments in regard to this thread Sangar. Afghan Soulja was just questioning the timing of this announcement.

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                          • #14
                            The article you posted Sangar " Afghan Minerals Discovery a Distraction by Pentagon" was very good. Thank you for that.

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                            • #15
                              That's what I was talking about this find raises the stakes for all the intruders in Afghanistan

                              But the gravest danger of an all-out shootin' war comes from Pakistan and India. Until the revelation of these finds, Islamabad (which continues to support the Afghan Taliban) just wanted strategic depth in the event of a war with New Delhi, while India had engaged in Afganistan just to frustrate Pakistan. Now Pakistan, a country in which the powerful have already stolen all there is to steal, will develop delusions of grandeur about controlling Afghanistan's subsurface wealth. And India's swelling economy will develop a sudden hunger for Afghan minerals. China will side with Pakistan, exploiting Islamabad as a proxy. Iran may line up with China and Pakistan, as well. Pakistan will turn up the heat in Kashmir. The "Great Game" of yore is about to become Monopoly played with corpses.

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