Western born/raised scholars sharing knowledge with indigenous Pashtuns.

[faye]

so good translators are necessary. they can help the afghan people.
what was the man saying there, in the last video, that was mistranslated?

[graveyardofempires]

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no faye translators are not needed cuz the Afghan nation doesnt support a foreign invasion of our country.

he is saying the americans like russians said we are here to help but they martyred our people,he says we are the people in the middle we are not strong or in control we will live if its your government or theirs we are muslims,this world is 5 days it will pass eventually we will die and return to Allah............................................. .........

[Manzareh]

anybody can type "pashto translation" into youtube. can we have some developing discussions here instead of flooding please.

[Shayesta]

@GOE
I am very well aware of the translation-drama in Southern Afghanistan. I know that nearly all those translators are either Pakistanis, either Iranians or either non-Pukhtoon Afghans. But tell me, why would you blame those people? If a Pakistani or Iranian can earn at least $5000 a month without harming himself and his own people, then why shouldn't he go for it? Those non-Pukhtoon Afghans who go for translation jobs in Kandahar and Helmand aren't very wealthy here in West, and they end up earning a fortune in the country they abandoned during wars. But do you have any idea how many Pukhtoons' lives have been ruined because of these mistranslating? Those translators are there only for money, they don't care what happens to those people. They are not their people, so why should they? Just to save their jobs and keep earning thousands of Dollars a month, they keep on 'translating' even though they can hardly converse with those Pukhtoons! As for Pukhtoons calling translators incompetents, traitors, etcetera, do they actually know how many lives they can save? With all the fortunes they earn, instead of keeping the money they can actually use it to spend on the poor ones? Do you have even know that a bigger traitor is called the one who allows mistranslating and let's people's lives be ruined, just because his 'Ghairat' thinks it's a sign of slavery?

[Toramana]

@GOE
I am very well aware of the translation-drama in Southern Afghanistan. I know that nearly all those translators are either Pakistanis, either Iranians or either non-Pukhtoon Afghans. But tell me, why would you blame those people? If a Pakistani or Iranian can earn at least $5000 a month without harming himself and his own people, then why shouldn't he go for it? Those non-Pukhtoon Afghans who go for translation jobs in Kandahar and Helmand aren't very wealthy here in West, and they end up earning a fortune in the country they abandoned during wars. But do you have any idea how many Pukhtoons' lives have been ruined because of these mistranslating? Those translators are there only for money, they don't care what happens to those people. They are not their people, so why should they? Just to save their jobs and keep earning thousands of Dollars a month, they keep on 'translating' even though they can hardly converse with those Pukhtoons! As for Pukhtoons calling translators incompetents, traitors, etcetera, do they actually know how many lives they can save? With all the fortunes they earn, instead of keeping the money they can actually use it to spend on the poor ones? Do you have even know that a bigger traitor is called the one who allows mistranslating and let's people's lives be ruined, just because his 'Ghairat' thinks it's a sign of slavery?

Has not this word"Pakistani" crept too much into the discourse of many Afghans lately on this board e.g., you see Pakistani blind singer or other such praises etc. being deliberately used here? Do you people want to tell us "hay go away, we have got nothing to do with you"?

I don't know whether this Pakistani translator thing is any correct or not. Obviously, you imply they are Pashtuns from Pakistan, who somehow don't care how many Pukhtoons in the south of Afghanistan are killed...and that non-Pukhtoon Afghans are doing it out of desperation for not being very well off in the West (i.e., they would have avoided harming Pukhtoons were not they poor).

[Midnight_Sun]

This deserves its own' thread.

[faye]

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no faye translators are not needed cuz the Afghan nation doesnt support a foreign invasion of our country.

he is saying the americans like russians said we are here to help but they martyred our people,he says we are the people in the middle we are not strong or in control we will live if its your government or theirs we are muslims,this world is 5 days it will pass eventually we will die and return to Allah............................................. .........

thanks for the translation.
the people don't want the invasion but from the videos it is clear that some of them don't want the taliban either and would like help. the translator was unable to get these people that assistance either deliberately or through mistranslation. a good translator would know when to tell the enemy the truth and when not to. they could help their own in many ways.

[Midnight_Sun]

New thread about this topic can be located here:

http://www.pashtunforums.com/political-talk-11/translators-foreign-govts-sellouts-patriots-17684/